Best 34mm QD Mount for AR10?

[hafejd30]

I bought a Burris XTRII that will be going on my Rock River LAR 8.

I have a QD Thermal (Pulsar) and would like to make this scope QD also so I can carry both and swap them if I want.

What do you guys recommend. Looking for something that can handle the weight of the Burris and maintain a zero when removed/back on etc (at least within 1 MOA)

Rifle is pretty gentle as it’s shot 100% of the time suppressed

- I did find a thread from 2013 but figured there’s more options now. Not looking to spend $500. Been looking at larue or bobro

Thank you

 

[gopherslayer]

I’ve got a couple from MI in 34mm. I haven’t tested return to zero yet but I haven’t had an issue with their 1” and 30mm versions. They’ve been solid.

 

[Kickin45]

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[TSpork]

I run a Larue on my SR15 with a mk6 1-6 and I have zero complaints. Haven’t been able to detect a problem returning to zero

 

[LawnMM]

QD sucks on a precision rifle, buy a torque wrench

 

[Scavokistan]

American Rifle Company M10 QD-L Mount

Scalarworks LEAP/Scope

 

[dfwglockguy]

If your set on using a QD type mounting system, the SPUHR QDP Mount is the way to go. It is built like a tank and easy to use. I’ve had good luck buying them from other members on this forum.

 

[lawdog]

Bobro. John McQuay over at 8541 Tactical did a comparison between the Bobro and ADM mounts a while back. The Bobro was more consistent returning to zero. I run a couple of Bobro QD cantilever mounts, but rarely remove them. No complaints.

 

[Black max]

GDI PROM

 

[muddawg]

American Defense Manufacturing is my Go-To

 

[b6graham]

spuhr and a set of fix it sticks

 

[jcam]

I have a LT111 for my NF SHV 4-14x F1 on the suppressed OBR. I sometimes use the scope on the mk12ish build then back to the OBR, It returns to zero. This mount can scratch the receiver though. Also have fix it sticks to check if the screws loosened, so far it’s still at 25inch pounds.

Spuhr has a hunting line to consider.
Spuhr mounts is on my to save/buy list, but I’ll probably keep the LT111 for the OBR/SHV set up though.

 

[Centuriator]

If you intend to mount a scope, I'd shy away from QD, use Geissele's mount.

 

[hafejd30]

If you intend to mount a scope, I'd shy away from QD, use Geissele's mount.

I’ll look into that.

I have a couple of torque wrenches and can definitely go the non QD Mount.

Gun is a hunting gun. Honest 1 MOA shooter. Hunting out to 500 yards max, mostly inside 300 as I have bigger guns for LR hunting

Thank you everyone for the replies.

If I did go QD, which should I avoid?

 

[b6graham]

avoid larue

 

[jcam]

I’ll look into that.

I have a couple of torque wrenches and can definitely go the non QD Mount.

Gun is a hunting gun. Honest 1 MOA shooter. Hunting out to 500 yards max, mostly inside 300 as I have bigger guns for LR hunting

Thank you everyone for the replies.

If I did go QD, which should I avoid?

maybe ARMS

 

[hafejd30]

maybe ARMS

I’m taking that as maybe avoid arms?

 

[jcam]

I’m taking that as maybe avoid arms?

yes to avoid. Sorry for the miscommunication.

 

[Crews]

Another solid vote from the “stay away from levers and buy a torque wrench” camp here. I personally love my RRS Unimount. I’ve got a 15in/lb seekonk t-handle. Can remove/install optic at will with rtz under an MOA.

 

[Birddog6424]

I've had an American Defense Recon on a couple different AR10s for years now. One 308 that I used in Heavy Metal division 3 Gun, one 6.5 Creedmoor. They have worked great, zero issues.

Dont shy away from QD if that's what you want. There isnt anything wrong with them. Used them for years without failure. Good ones lock into place and go no where, no different than a torqued nut.

 

[hafejd30]

I certainly won’t rule out the t handle wrench idea either

 

[whatsupdoc]

I have a midwest qd mount and have had zero issues with it. The optic/mount was removed and reinstalled on the rail and there was maybe .25 or less POI shift.

Once you properly adjust the cam locks it will clamp with the same pressure upon removal and installation.

 

[M8541Reaper]

I've always been a fan of using rings over QD mounts, with Badger being my go-to rings with a set of Fix-It Sticks in my kit. However I've never had any issues running LaRue mounts and have been using both LaRue and Badger (on different rifles) since 2008. Not sure why so many hate on LaRue's mounts but it is what it is. Are there better QDs out there? Sure. Are there worse QDs? Definitely.

When you switch between systems or remove/replace the optic, are you going to just run it without confirming zero or are you going to confirm zero before hunting/competing/shooting/hunting Boogaloo Jim in his basement? If you're always planning on doing a zero confirmation (which you should), then it doesn't matter. Regardless with what mounts you go with, make sure you take the time at the range to remove/replace your scope (after you have an established zero) and see what your shift is so you know if you ever have to remove your scope in the field.

 

[hafejd30]

I've always been a fan of using rings over QD mounts, with Badger being my go-to rings with a set of Fix-It Sticks in my kit. However I've never had any issues running LaRue mounts and have been using both LaRue and Badger (on different rifles) since 2008. Not sure why so many hate on LaRue's mounts but it is what it is. Are there better QDs out there? Sure. Are there worse QDs? Definitely.

When you switch between systems or remove/replace the optic, are you going to just run it without confirming zero or are you going to confirm zero before hunting/competing/shooting/hunting Boogaloo Jim in his basement? If you're always planning on doing a zero confirmation (which you should), then it doesn't matter. Regardless with what mounts you go with, make sure you take the time at the range to remove/replace your scope (after you have an established zero) and see what your shift is so you know if you ever have to remove your scope in the field.

My thought was a set up where I could Hunt in daylight, remove scope at dark, replace with thermal, keep hunting.

2 release levers, scope off, thermal on,
2 levers, hunt.

 

[hafejd30]

The main thermal rifle is a AR15. I just thought it be a nice option if I’m mounting the scope anyways to have the AR 10 capable of switching. The AR15 I just swap the entire upper.

I have other rifles as well. Including an Armalite AR10. I currently have for sale here but can always use that for a thermal night AR10 I suppose.

If it’s a bad idea please say so. I don’t want to be wounding animals just for a slight bit of convenience on my end

And to be honest I don’t have a legitimate use for a 308 at night currently. Hoping to hunt some hogs in the future and was thinking more along the lines of when that happens.

My goal is a set up that does NOT require shooting when I switch optics

 

[LawnMM]

If I did go QD, which should I avoid?

One's with QD in the name

 

[hafejd30]

I think I will just run the Burris on one and the thermal on the other AR10. The Armalite only has a 16” barrel but only shooting a couple hundred yard with thermal moat likely anyways

 

[hafejd30]

Thank you everyone for the responses!

 

[alwaywatchyoursix]

Kinda late, but I'm doing something similar on one of my ARs. It is a range toy so bear in mind that I'm not concerned with how ethical my shot placement is or whether my POI deviates an inch or two at 100 meters.

I'm using Spuhr QDP mounts on each optic, and just swap them as necessary. I don't have to worry about torque each time. I put a mark on the top rail, and a matching mark on each mount. Each time I swap optics I just align the marks, press the mount forward against the rail, lock it down, and recheck the marks. If they aren't aligned properly it means I didn't lock it down against the rail properly.

I know there are more precise methods, but I do it this way because 1) it's a range toy, and 2) I don't have to retorque or worry about eye relief each time. And it's expensive too, because those Spuhr mounts are not cheap, but really what I'm paying for is the convenience.

 

[Dev L]

I bought a Burris XTRII that will be going on my Rock River LAR 8.

I have a QD Thermal (Pulsar) and would like to make this scope QD also so I can carry both and swap them if I want.

What do you guys recommend. Looking for something that can handle the weight of the Burris and maintain a zero when removed/back on etc (at least within 1 MOA)

Rifle is pretty gentle as it’s shot 100% of the time suppressed

- I did find a thread from 2013 but figured there’s more options now. Not looking to spend $500. Been looking at larue or bobro

Thank you

What amount of variation is unacceptable when unmounting and remounting?

What type of accuracy is your current rifle capable of?

What are your precision needs?

Larue works for sub half MOA shifts on rifles in the .5 to .75 MOA accuracy range. Some people refer to that as "unacceptable" or parrot some expensive mount brand that is non QD just because they are elitests with no actual experience with the products they bash. If the QD on your thermal and accuracy of your thermal is currently acceptable, Larue is BETTER than that. So consider that in your choice. Day before yesterday a friend and I shot some .52 to .98 MOA groups (averaging .75 MOA) at 320 yards with a Larue QD mount equipped precision .223 and Leupold Mark5 3.6-18×44 and I did 10 shots in 20 seconds rapid fire at sub 1 1/3 MOA, with 6 of the shots inside the 1 MOA x-ring, 1 just touching the line, and 3 outside. Perhaps that is unacceptable accuracy for your needs, but perhaps not.

To say that the mounts you should avoid are the ones with QD in the name is ignorant. Without knowing your parameters we cant say if they will work for you or not.

 

[hafejd30]

What amount of variation is unacceptable when unmounting and remounting?

What type of accuracy is your current rifle capable of?

What are your precision needs?

Larue works for sub half MOA shifts on rifles in the .5 to .75 MOA accuracy range. Some people refer to that as "unacceptable" or parrot some expensive mount brand that is non QD just because they are elitests with no actual experience with the products they bash. If the QD on your thermal and accuracy of your thermal is currently acceptable, Larue is BETTER than that. So consider that in your choice. Day before yesterday a friend and I shot some .52 to .98 MOA groups (averaging .75 MOA) at 320 yards with a Larue QD mount equipped precision .223 and Leupold Mark5 3.6-18×44 and I did 10 shots in 20 seconds rapid fire at sub 1 1/3 MOA, 6 of the shots inside the 1 MOA x-ring. Perhaps that is unacceptable accuracy for your needs, but perhaps not.

To say that the mounts you should avoid are the ones with QD in the name is ignorant. Without knowing your parameters we cant say if they will work for you or not.

I would prefer a return to within half MOA for the day optic. 1 MOA for the thermal. Gun is a 1 MOA gun. To be used within 500 yards (mainly 300) daytime, inside 200 at night.

I’ve actually purchased a ZroDelta Dloc Mount for the XTRII on the Rock River. Plan to run the thermal on Armalite if I need it. Thermal mainly run on AR15. So essentially I’ll just be using a spare gun for thermal if I need/want it.

This is a hunting rifle. Used a lot. So as was pointed out above I don’t plan to check zero every time I switch. Which may be not the most ethical route which is why I’ll run 2 AR10’s

 

[Dev L]

I would prefer a return to within half MOA for the day optic. 1 MOA for the thermal. Gun is a 1 MOA gun. To be used within 500 yards (mainly 300) daytime, inside 200 at night.

I’ve actually purchased a ZroDelta Dloc Mount for the XTRII on the Rock River. Plan to run the thermal on Armalite if I need it. Thermal mainly run on AR15. So essentially I’ll just be using a spare gun for thermal if I need/want it.

This is a hunting rifle. Used a lot. So as was pointed out above I don’t plan to check zero every time I switch. Which may be not the most ethical route which is why I’ll run 2 AR10’s

A Larue mount would fulfill your needs pefectly. You would not notice any shift with a 1 MOA gun and 500y max range.

 

[jmw]

Spuhr

 

[spearknives]

Look at the aero precision mounts. I have one on one of my 5.56 rifles and like it. They are light and can be found pretty cheaply. Another option would be DNZ they make really good stuff.

 

[hafejd30]

Purchased a ZRODelta Mount for this. However the crossbolt stripped out at about 15 lbs on the wheeler FAT wrench. Contacted ZRODelta just looking for parts as I purchased this mount used.

They sent me an email back and said send it to us and we’ll fix it for free. So that is awesome of them as I’m certain the previous owner over torqued the mount. I did tell them it was purchased used and they still offered to cover it.

When that gets back I’ll either mount the XTRII in that or a Burris PEPR Mount and use my Armalite AR10 as the backup thermal rifle

 

[rob.sfo]

Bobro. John McQuay over at 8541 Tactical did a comparison between the Bobro and ADM mounts a while back. The Bobro was more consistent returning to zero. I run a couple of Bobro QD cantilever mounts, but rarely remove them. No complaints.

I second this. I have 3 Bobro cantilever mounts (two of the dual-lever 34mm mounts, and one of the Aimpoint mounts). No complaints.

 

[UpSideDown]

I am running the newer LaRue LT204 mount on an AR with a 1-6 Vortex PSTII on it. It's a sub-moa gun. I tested removing/replacing the QD mount and the point of impact difference was negligible. It was there but it was well within where it should be. Overall I'm luke warm on the LaRue mount. The vertical ring sections don't seem ideal to me, and the QD mechanism is set up entirely by feel. A screw has a torque value, but the LaRue is done by however confident you are in the wedge tension. Perk to the LaRue QD is that it can't lose tension due to the locking feature on one of the wedges. I have not had any problems with mine.

There is no point to QD if it doesn't come off the gun.

QD becomes really nice the first time you have to remove it. I like QD even for being able to quickly test a setup. Hunting doesn't need sub-MOA usually.

 

[nn8734]

I like Larue OBR mounts for AR platforms and have had two scopes in those mounts for a few years with no issues. I am also looking at trying Eratac mounts. They have adjustable cant and allow for some accessory mounting options like offset rails and bubble levels etc.

 

[bbyars]

Ive been looking at buying a mount for my ar10 as well. ive narrowed mine down to Sphur$$$ and Larue$$. The night force unimount and geiselle are nice as well.

 

[bbyars]

Ive been looking at buying a mount for my ar10 as well. ive narrowed mine down to Sphur$$$ and Larue$$. The night force unimount and geiselle are nice as well.

im basically stuck between those two because i run a full length stock and really have no need for the catilever style. i will probably swap the scope around to different platforms till i can put decent glass on all my rifles.

 

[hafejd30]

Went with a ZRODELTA Mount, will run the thermal on my spare Armalite

 

[Rambocambo75]

I will 4th or 5th the Larue mount. They are very well priced (especially the new CANS) and I have not had any noticeable shift in POI within the ranges I have used my rifles. I have a red dot and multiple scope mounts and I cannot justify using any other mount on my gas guns, especially for the price point of the new tool less adjustment locking system.

I do take optics on and off frequently. As someone who has too many hobbies I have not invested into multiple scopes in the same category so I’ve moved a Trijicon RMR, Leupold Patrol and Vudu 5-25 from rifle to rifle depending on what I’m doing that day.

I know there are very good options out there such as ADM, ARC (haven’t used these yet but you don’t have to look far to find reviews), Scalarworks (expensive but good, even lighter than Larue), and MI. But for my purposes I have not found a more practical, lightweight, cost effective QD mount than Larue.

 

[chrome]

Recently decided on a Spuhr QDP for a new ZCO. One of the many data points that helped me go QDP for a precision setup was this quick video (not mine):

At the end of the day, I dont shoot for a living, and I'll check zero/re-zero wherever I go to shoot for several reasons, so I am good with the pros/cons of the QDP on a bolt gun.

 

[b6graham]

I will 4th or 5th the Larue mount. They are very well priced (especially the new CANS) and I have not had any noticeable shift in POI within the ranges I have used my rifles. I have a red dot and multiple scope mounts and I cannot justify using any other mount on my gas guns, especially for the price point of the new tool less adjustment locking system.

I do take optics on and off frequently. As someone who has too many hobbies I have not invested into multiple scopes in the same category so I’ve moved a Trijicon RMR, Leupold Patrol and Vudu 5-25 from rifle to rifle depending on what I’m doing that day.

I know there are very good options out there such as ADM, ARC (haven’t used these yet but you don’t have to look far to find reviews), Scalarworks (expensive but good, even lighter than Larue), and MI. But for my purposes I have not found a more practical, lightweight, cost effective QD mount than Larue.

friends dont let friends buy larue. especially split rings.

but you do you

 

[Cayenne6]

Spuhr

 

[sea2summit]

Larue, switch between thermal and optics on two rifles pretty regularly. I'm trying to source the Larue mount for the thermal without having to buy another thermal.

 

[Kickin45]

Went with a ZRODELTA Mount, will run the thermal on my spare Armalite
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what handguard is that? Love the smooth simplicity.

 

[beenjammin]

AD delta is a good lever mount.

Accuracy Internationals plane jane old school scope mount worked great for years and years. I dont know why they dont get any love. i still buy them when I get a decent deal on them. How do you beat them for under $100?

Sure Spuhr is the Cadillac if you got the green.

 

[hafejd30]

what handguard is that? Love the smooth simplicity.

The gun is a Rock River LAR8. Swapped the gas block and stock. Rest of the gun including handgaurd is factory RR

Absolutely love the gun. Shoots very well with 168 FGMM. I usually shoot hunting rounds as that’s what I use it for primarily. Hornady usually hover around 3/4-1” at 100

 

[DRAM40A1]

Badger Ordnance and a Seekonk!