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Amazon sells some off brands for little over $1ea. Tempted to try some.
Usually do SL or Energizer for about 1.75 ea
what are you running them in
SF and energizer and run them in everything
and change them out routinly. Changed them every night overseas. Never had a failure. Kills me when guys buy a 6K piece of gear and complain about replacing a 1.50 battery. Do it before that 350 lb hog runs over you!!
They are all pretty much the same. Being primarily made of lithium, they have similar construction. Buy whatever cheaper.
Care to Elaborate.I strongly disagree with this!
But do so respectfully.
Carry on.
Have some advanced knowledge on lithium battery production to bring to the table?
Here is where you fail:Energizer test better, they have something called ultimate lithiumin AA and AAA battery. I know this mainly from GPS use, you can run them for days hard. The same brand has other grade of battery that fails alot sooner in a similar field use/test. So the idea they are all interchangeble is a myht (IMHO), and emprically not a good starting point. For CR123 in particular, I don't have experience with hard use applications. I use energizers and they seem to do well enough. If the Horta says he testem them out and they are as good as it gets, I wouldn't doubt that based on what I've seen in other applications from the same brand...
You are confused and mixing up the issue.No advanced knowledge of battery design or materials, just a general experiential knowledge that all batteries in general - and CR123s in particular - have not functioned equally for me.
If it is a $20 flashlight you got on Amazon, rock on; if it is a $10,000 thermal, no chance in hell I am putting a no-name battery in mine.
This applies to rechargeable too - maybe more so.
To each, his own.
I am not trying to start a shitstorm, quite the contrary; Surefires have been great for me and they tend to be on the lower end of the bulk $ scale. I've had a few energizers (on the higher end of the $ scale) be off right out of the packaging. I put everything on a tester before it goes in a device.
For those that recall the Kestrel issue many years ago with Duracell batteries, we tend to lean sorta "battery-snob"-ish, I guess you could say. People often consult price when buying wine, and it doesn't always work well; the same is true of batteries.
I like a thread with an abundance of anecdotes; it ain't data, but it is useful nonetheless - assuming a certain level of intelligence and integrity.
That last part can indeed bite you!
Here is where you fail...
Energizer test better, they have something called ultimate lithiumin AA and AAA battery. I know this mainly from GPS use, you can run them for days hard. The same brand has other grade of [edit-also lithium] battery that fails alot sooner in a similar field use/test. So the idea they are all interchangeble is a myht (IMHO), and emprically not a good starting point. For CR123 in particular, I don't have experience with hard use applications. I use energizers [edit-Cr123 applications] and they seem to do well enough. If the Horta says he testem them out and they are as good as it gets, I wouldn't doubt that based on what I've seen in other [edit-Lithium] applications from the same brand...