Night Vision Binocular Bridge Systems

[Nik H]

Would like an opinion from the gurus out there on selecting a bridge system that can be used with a NV monocular and thermal

Looking at a WP, unfilmed PVS-14 and perhaps a NOX.

Any opinions on a bridge and my choice for the optics is most welcome

 

[M4guru]

Nothing wrong with your choice of optics. KAC RQE Universal Bridge would be the ticket.

Knight Vision (KVC) Universal Bridge

***THIS ITEM WILL HAVE LONG BACKORDER STATUS DUE TO UNPREDICTABLE LEAD TIMES*** The K-Clip has replaced the M-Clip for all configurations using a MUM-style rail, including the FLIR PTQ136 Breach. **Knight Vision products are custom-built, hand-fit systems. The manufacturer produces a limited...

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[Nik H]

Nothing wrong with your choice of optics. KAC RQE Universal Bridge would be the ticket.

Knight Vision (KVC) Universal Bridge

***THIS ITEM WILL HAVE LONG BACKORDER STATUS DUE TO UNPREDICTABLE LEAD TIMES*** The K-Clip has replaced the M-Clip for all configurations using a MUM-style rail, including the FLIR PTQ136 Breach. **Knight Vision products are custom-built, hand-fit systems. The manufacturer produces a limited...

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Seems like a marriage made in heaven...thank you

 

[Killswitch Engage]

i have the mod armory d14 and love it. its very well made and very tight. zero slop on any dovetail i have locked into it. i am running dual 14's and a 14/IR patrol.

 

[Dvlray6]

Nothing wrong with your choice of optics. KAC RQE Universal Bridge would be the ticket.

Knight Vision (KVC) Universal Bridge

***THIS ITEM WILL HAVE LONG BACKORDER STATUS DUE TO UNPREDICTABLE LEAD TIMES*** The K-Clip has replaced the M-Clip for all configurations using a MUM-style rail, including the FLIR PTQ136 Breach. **Knight Vision products are custom-built, hand-fit systems. The manufacturer produces a limited...

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This is the way. With all of the different adjustable clips and mounts, it is the most flexible system on the market. And very light. And a piece of engineering mastery. And spendy.

 

[JGRJR]

Where are the KAC bridges? Backordered for a while now.

Anybody have an update?

 

[Nik H]

I know...I looked all last night to no avail

 

[SkyScrapin]

I have both, the Universal KAC Bridge and the Mod Armory D14.

The KAC has significantly more moving parts, and while it's nice to have lots of adjustment, it's not as "tight" as I'd like. That's a Wilcox Shoe issue. None of them seem to have the exact same spec so there's variation in fitment. Good luck finding one in stock.

The D14 is far simpler, has better tension adjustment, and overall is easier to use (by a little, not a lot). Easier to find in stock.

If you're like me, you'll have to try both to verify my statements above. You'll be happy with either unit, I'm sure of it.

Preston

 

[pmclaine]

Dan Crenshaw never asks about this shit.........

 

[Nik H]

Dan Crenshaw never asks about this shit.........

They usually don't let you out of the pit or the vintage "old man" forum. How did you end up here?

 

[pmclaine]

They usually don't let you out of the pit or the vintage "old man" forum. How did you end up here?

Living vicariously......hoping @TheHorta s next charity trip is bringing night vision to the poors of Massachusetts.

 

[TheHorta]

I was Born in Boston and spent summers in the bleachers at Fenway.

Fond memories and sad that the freedom-loving State of Massachusetts has now become the Socialist Peoples Republic of Massistan.

Spitting on the graves at Lexington and Concord.

 

[M4guru]

I have both, the Universal KAC Bridge and the Mod Armory D14.

The KAC has significantly more moving parts, and while it's nice to have lots of adjustment, it's not as "tight" as I'd like. That's a Wilcox Shoe issue. None of them seem to have the exact same spec so there's variation in fitment. Good luck finding one in stock.

The D14 is far simpler, has better tension adjustment, and overall is easier to use (by a little, not a lot). Easier to find in stock.

If you're like me, you'll have to try both to verify my statements above. You'll be happy with either unit, I'm sure of it.

Preston

Good input, thanks. I have the KAC bridge and am happy with it but this piques my curiosity about the Mod Armory stuff.

 

[pmclaine]

I was Born in Boston and spent summers in the bleachers at Fenway.

Fond memories and sad that the freedom-loving State of Massachusetts has now become the Socialist Peoples Republic of Massistan.

Spitting on the graves at Lexington and Concord.

Dude you and I had it good. I feel for the fun and freedom my kids havent experienced.

Perhaps as a parent Im partially at fault. I try my hardest to get them to do their thing but neither they nor their peers seem to have the desire.

Riding the T from my home town to get a transfer to the Green Line and go to Fenway for bleacher tickets was a $10 entertainment cost and we couldnt have been much older than ten. Granted corporate BS has made Fenway unaffordable for kids but still they wouldnt do it if it was free.

@gayguns GGGGGGGGGrandfather lived in my town and is the state hero

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I drive home from work along the Battle Road.

Being so close to the places they sacrificed so much I shake my head and ask "How the fuck did this happen?"

The mirror has the answer.

 

[Nik H]

I was Born in Boston and spent summers in the bleachers at Fenway.

I lived UNDER the bleachers at Fenway

Took the bus from Lynn and the Green Line at Haymarket.

 

[pmclaine]

I lived UNDER the bleachers at Fenway

Took the bus from Lynn and the Green Line at Haymarket.

Do you know the guy that has the "Twenty bucks is Twenty bucks" t-shirt?

 

[Tritiumdials]

There are cheaper ways to develop a headache.

 

[mako15]

Any experience with the Wilcox bridge?

It's available.

 

[SkyScrapin]

Any experience with the Wilcox bridge?

It's available.

@texasleftychef you have one right?

 

[Choid]

Any experience with the Wilcox bridge?

It's available.

Better than the IC bridge, not as good as the KAC. IMO, if you run both thermal and nv, which you shouldn't, you don't want a bridge that is going to force the thermal into a non vertical alignment. My experience with the IC bridge is that you are more likely due to the design of it to have a tilted thermal. For just nv, they all work fine.

 

[Nik H]

Better than the IC bridge, not as good as the KAC. IMO, if you run both thermal and nv, which you shouldn't, you don't want a bridge that is going to force the thermal into a non vertical alignment. My experience with the IC bridge is that you are more likely due to the design of it to have a tilted thermal. For just nv, they all work fine.

Can you elaborate on your "which you shouldn't" comment? I think it would work well and would like to understand your perspective.

 

[Choid]

Can you elaborate on your "which you shouldn't" comment? I think it would work well and would like to understand your perspective.

I think they work OK one at a time on a bridge, but looking at NV out of one eye and thermal out of the other does not work well, in my opinion.

 

[WhereNow&How]

My experience with the IC bridge is that you are more likely due to the design of it to have a tilted thermal. For just nv, they all work fine.

I run Flir Breach's on all 3 Versions of IC Mod Armory Bridges and have never had any issues with alignment of the thermal being tilted. Mine all align quite well with PVS 14's.

It is very important to understand how to properly adjust the Flir Breach Arm to get your IPD distance set correctly for a particular users eyes. I also use Norotos Rhino 2 Dovetail Mounts to attach all my night vision devices to my helmets. I do have 1 Wilcox G24 mount but it collects dust because it does not perform as well as the Norotos Rhino 2 Dovetail.

I find the Mod Armory IC Bridge's to be very simple and sturdily built such as they do not have a bunch of overengineered pivot points etc which will develop "slop and wiggle" with extended use.

I also run COTI's as well. Both the COTI and Breach perform pretty well in the role they were designed and manufactured for.


Left to Right. Mod Armory Quick Detach, Mod Armory Original Lightweight, Mod Armory Current Lightweight.

 

[Dvlray6]

If positioned properly on a bridge, thermal and I2 work very well together. No headaches here at all and it is extremely usable. For me, it doesn’t magically overlay one on top of the other(like my e-coti and binos do) but my view seems to switch between whichever has the more useful information at the moment. Of course, you can consciously switch as well without rotating the other one out of the way. It makes it extremely easy to navigate and scan for living things without a bunch of useless motion. The only trick I found was getting the two eye pieces in the same plane which was a matter of adjustment in the bridge and mount. I can easily say that since I’ve added the thermal, I’ve never gone home hungry. Before the thermal, it was hit and miss with I2 alone.

 

[texasleftychef]

@texasleftychef you have one right?

I do but it didn’t work with my Reap so it’s dead weight now. Probably run perfect on a 14 or a Nox. If somebody needs or wants one I’ve got a pristine black one with two j arms or whatever they call them.

14 and Nox would both work on a Wilcox I think.

 

[Drago6]

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I'm torn between trying out the MH25 + PVS-14 combo, or just going with standard dual tubes

Wish there was a way to try out a dual bridge system before dropping several grand

 

[pucker]

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I'm torn between trying out the MH25 + PVS-14 combo, or just going with standard dual tubes

Wish there was a way to try out a dual bridge system before dropping several grand

Post your general vicinity... if someone is close, they might offer a peek through theirs.

 

[BamaSE]

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I'm torn between trying out the MH25 + PVS-14 combo, or just going with standard dual tubes

Wish there was a way to try out a dual bridge system before dropping several grand

If your primary purpose is hunting then I recommend picking up at least the MH25. I am sporting the KVC bridge and dual MH25s. Image is pretty amazing and I can walk around and also drive the buggy no problem, especially in black hot.

 

[WhereNow&How]

This vid here demonstrates one of the problems the RQE/KAC Bridge will eventually develop after extended use. No way to tighten up the pivot pin.

 

[Jgunner]

How does the mod ic mount to the Nox?

 

[WhereNow&How]

How does the mod ic mount to the Nox?

Dunno about that. Call Mod Armory and ask them if it does.

 

[drenglish]

@WhereNow&How

In the video Will demonstrates “loose” by showing the PVS-14 just kind of falling back into place when he flips it up but not into lock position. There is a screw that can be accessed by disassembling the bridge arms from each other. I tightened this and it fixed the issue.

The screw where I’m pointing fixes this and can make the movement more fluid/loose if one wants.

 

[WhereNow&How]

@WhereNow&How

In the video Will demonstrates “loose” by showing the PVS-14 just kind of falling back into place when he flips it up but not into lock position. There is a screw that can be accessed by disassembling the bridge arms from each other. I tightened this and it fixed the issue.

The screw where I’m pointing fixes this and can make the movement more fluid/loose if one wants.

Cool.