Bipod Picatinny Rail QD help!

[callen3615]

I am in search of a Pic rail that uses the swivel studs and also has a QD cup that is NON Rotating. I have some Atlas brand rails, they all rotate 360. Seems like Badger makes one that is non rotating, I am just having a hard time finding it anywhere. I'm I pissing up a rope here?

Bipod Accessory Rail (Bar)

Bipod Accessory Rail (Bar)

www.badgerordnance.com

 

[callen3615]

Current project. Not sure why grayboe decided to put a QD cup on the bottom of the buttstock and then one on the SIDE of the forend, makes carrying the rifle awkward.

 

[carbonbased]

I am in search of a Pic rail that uses the swivel studs and also has a QD cup that is NON Rotating. I have some Atlas brand rails, they all rotate 360. Seems like Badger makes one that is non rotating, I am just having a hard time finding it anywhere. I'm I pissing up a rope here?

Bipod Accessory Rail (Bar)

Bipod Accessory Rail (Bar)

www.badgerordnance.com

Those look like they are in stock at badger? I could add it to my cart.

If I were you, I would t-nut epoxy a STEEL grovtec threaded non-rotational flush cup into the side of the stock and stick with a plain pic rail.

A stainless metal ball in the male push sling swivel rotating around in an aluminum hole-groove is a recipe for failure, long-term.

In the high-end camera world this is a known issue. Funny it hasn’t really sunk in here yet.

 

[kthomas]

Those look like they are in stock at badger? I could add it to my cart.

If I were you, I would t-nut epoxy a STEEL grovtec threaded non-rotational flush cup into the side of the stock and stick with a plain pic rail.

A stainless metal ball in the male push sling swivel rotating around in an aluminum hole-groove is a recipe for failure, long-term.

In the high-end camera world this is a known issue. Funny it hasn’t really sunk in here yet.

Not to mention that the ball detents can fail when debris prevents them from fully expanding in the QD socket. I'm sure everyone that has at least a moderate amount of experience with QD systems has experienced failures.

There's certainly much more secure ways to mount a sling to a weapon. Personally I haven't bothered to change the way I mount slings as I rarely actually use a sling, nor am I in a position where I use a weapon in a professional capacity. If I did, I would be searching out more solid ways to connect a sling to my rifles.

 

[carbonbased]

Not to mention that the ball detents can fail when debris prevents them from fully expanding in the QD socket. I'm sure everyone that has at least a moderate amount of experience with QD systems has experienced failures.

There's certainly much more secure ways to mount a sling to a weapon. Personally I haven't bothered to change the way I mount slings as I rarely actually use a sling, nor am I in a position where I use a weapon in a professional capacity. If I did, I would be searching out more solid ways to connect a sling to my rifles.

Yeah, I hear you. I’m not a big sling user either, but even I have had grovtec items fail. And Grovtec is apparently the standard?

Like the flush cup to regular sling stud adapter they sell (several unscrewed themselves, manuf sent new ones), and a wonky regular push swivel.

 

[callen3615]

Thanks all, I reverted to the cups on the side.