Has anyone bought the new pro-x from bullet central? I know it’s new, but curious if anyone has any opinions before trying it?
At the very least, it LOOKS awesome
At the very least, it LOOKS awesome
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Join the contest SubscribeThe single stage flat shoe sounds very nice. I’d like to compare this to a diamondI ordered one the day it dropped. Will compare when its in-hand. Had stayed away from Bix'n Andy previously based on some friends recommending against them, but I've tried every other 2 stage and just flat wanted to see for myself.
I'll be looking at a 2 stage gator shoe. I can compare it to a 2 stage flat shoe TT diamond.The single stage flat shoe sounds very nice. I’d like to compare this to a diamond
How light do you have yours at? I believe this one goes from 3.5oz to 2.2lbsI have a TacSport two stage with gator shoe and think it’s too light. I’m not understanding the benefit here - more polished internals and the trigger shoe preinstalled? Meh.
I’m guessing the polished internals of the more expensive Tacsport?So what do I get for $10 more in the PRO-X vs the PRO besides the aluminum housing vs stainless?
Yeah, got it yesterday. Very nice. Got the single stage to try vs my trigger tech two stage. Came set super light from bullet central. But I’m not unhappy with it. Preliminarily, I like it. It is my first Bix trigger after countless trigger techs and AI triggers so excited to see how it works.Has anyone bought the new pro-x from bullet central? I know it’s new, but curious if anyone has any opinions before trying it?
At the very least, it LOOKS awesome
Yeah, i installed it on my zeus last nightHave you got it on an action yet?
Do you have any triggers to compare it to?Yeah, i installed it on my zeus last night
Yeah. My twos stage diamond. It’s pretty smooth and I am excited to get to use it in love fore.Do you have any triggers to compare it to?
So, the thing I don't really "get" is, how would this or any other trigger be an improvement over a TT Diamond? I have TT Diamonds in my AR's and bolt guns and I just don't know how they could be better? I'm not being a smart butt, I'm just genuinely asking. The TT has such a crisp clean break and is adjustable down to so low, I don't know what more could be done to make it better or another trigger better.
Triggertech’s come with neat little “VOID” stickers on the trigger case so you don’t open ‘em up. Bix is touting how you can open up and clean these, going so far as recommending it (per Bullet Central video). So maybe that’s a plus, but maybe it’s not?adjustable sear height is what gives bix triggers the advantage.
- this is what allows them to have consistent/reliable light pull weights if setup correctly
if i’m reading correctly, looks like the biggest change between the pro and the proX is an over travel stop has been added
Swappable top sear heights for better sear engagement (better compatibility with more actions), swappable trigger shoes, disassembly for cleaning without voiding warranty, overtravel (debatable improvement - Bix'n Andy would argue that a little overtravel gives you some margin for error when it comes to post break follow through affecting your shot versus)So, the thing I don't really "get" is, how would this or any other trigger be an improvement over a TT Diamond? I have TT Diamonds in my AR's and bolt guns and I just don't know how they could be better? I'm not being a smart butt, I'm just genuinely asking. The TT has such a crisp clean break and is adjustable down to so low, I don't know what more could be done to make it better or another trigger better.
Swappable top sear heights for better sear engagement (better compatibility with more actions), swappable trigger shoes, disassembly for cleaning without voiding warranty, overtravel (debatable improvement - Bix'n Andy would argue that a little overtravel gives you some margin for error when it comes to post break follow through affecting your shot versus)
TacSport Pro-X internals are machined and finished in the same process as their Competition trigger supposedly resulting in a crisper break than the regular TacSport Pro.
So, the thing I don't really "get" is, how would this or any other trigger be an improvement over a TT Diamond? I have TT Diamonds in my AR's and bolt guns and I just don't know how they could be better? I'm not being a smart butt, I'm just genuinely asking. The TT has such a crisp clean break and is adjustable down to so low, I don't know what more could be done to make it better or another trigger better.
On a 2 stage that makes more sense to me. I don't use 2 stage triggers on anything so. Yeah I can see the timing of the sear. I didn't know that you could even do that within that trigger. I guess I need to check it outDepends on your preferences.
Being able to "time" the sear engagement is an awesome feature. I'm surprised more triggers don't do this.
I personally prefer the feel of a BnA over the TT. I like that there's travel after the break of the second stage, it helps me focus on keeping the trigger pressed after the shot breaks. I also prefer the thinner trigger shoe, and all the adjustability of the BnA.
so if you had a choice of a TT diamond for 244 and a TSP for 267, you'd spend the extra $20 for the TSP?I've been running a Tac Sport Pro X w / Gator Shoe for about 3 months now. Im running my trigger on my PRS rifle, a Triggered Precision Machine built Terminus Zeus / Brux / 6BRA. So far I have 4 matches and around 1200 rounds through the trigger and I love it. I run light triggers on my PRS guns (8-10 oz) and came from running a TT Diamond in that weight range for several years. Here is what I have noticed:
#1 - The break is more crisp. I have tens of thousands of rounds through Diamonds and know the trigger pull profile like the back of my hand. It is predictable and repeatable, but it has more of a "roll" feel compared to the BnA. I have my BnA set at 8 ounces and the pull is truly like a glass rod breaking. There is zero creep, zero roll and it is very repeatable. Even with an 8 ounce trigger, I have zero issue prepping my finger on the trigger prior to breaking the shot in a match. Its important to note, I never noticed this characteristic with the TT Diamond until I shot it side by side my BnA. It's subtle, but definitely noticeable by other shooters who play with the rifles as well.
#2 - The sear adjustment is great. I like to run light triggers as mentioned above so I want to make sure I have good sear contact an never have a slam fire, or AD. It took all of 5 minutes to go through the adjustment process and I havent touched the trigger. I drop tested the living shit out of it and ran the rifle hard at a team match last weekend. Never had an issue.
#3 - So far it has proven to be reliable. This was a concern at first. I was hesitant to ditch the TT Diamond on my primary rifle simply because it has been so damn reliable. We get a mixture of snow, rain, ice, mud, moon dust and a whole bunch of other nasty stuff at our matches and the BnA has had no problems.
#4 - I REALLY like the gator shoe. I was given the trigger to test out and holy crap I was on the fence until I pulled the trigger. The gator shoe may be the best part. It's the right width, has good texture for tactile feedback, and looks sharp.
In short I like it. I'm not a paid shill for BnA, just a regular ass dude who shoots alot. Will I go through and replace all of my TT Diamonds with BnA Tac Sport Pro's..... maybe.... probably more than likely all of my match rifles. My hunting / fun guns will continue to wear the mix of TT Diamonds and Specials I run. If you are putting a build together from scratch, I'd say give it a hard look. You won't go wrong with either a TT or BnA trigger, but so far I'm really liking the BnA.
Cheers
I would. I've ran another half dozen matches with the BnA and love it. The last two matches were pouring rain, wind, mud, dust, you name it. No problems at all with the trigger. The gator shoe is awesome feeling too.so if you had a choice of a TT diamond for 244 and a TSP for 267, you'd spend the extra $20 for the TSP?
Thinking about getting the non pro x version but also considering the new hiperfire 700 trigger just to try it
Thinking about getting the non pro x version but also considering the new hiperfire 700 trigger just to try it
I think you will be surprised at the Hiperfire Trigger for the 700. It can be adjusted down to about 8 oz. I shoot and rep for them so if there's any questions or you are thinking about purchasing one, I can get them for you cheaper than on website.I had no idea Hiperfire had a 700 trigger… I’m going to have to try one. I own 4 of their Reflex triggers in different ARs and PCCs and love them, they’re the best available for those IMO.
I may take you up on that in a couple/few weeks after Kahles...I think you will be surprised at the Hiperfire Trigger for the 700. It can be adjusted down to about 8 oz. I shoot and rep for them so if there's any questions or you are thinking about purchasing one, I can get them for you cheaper than on website.
I may take you up on that in a couple/few weeks after Kahles...
What brought me to the thread is that I think my TT Diamond might need a lighter fluid bath and then get blown out, and I may need a little overtravel in my life lol. (adjustable overtravel might be even better... sucks you have to pull the BA to make adjustments, but whatever)
I honestly don't have many complaints about the Diamond Pro Curve, except for the wall after the break/lack of overtravel... I run mine pretty light, somewhere ~8oz-6oz, and while I've had one that had to go back (due to debris I couldn't get out causing intermittent/random heavy pulls), I consider them pretty solid.
What interests me about the Bix (and honestly more the Hiperfire I did not know existed) is that coming from many miles of 1911/CZ Shadow trigger-snobbery... I know that with the best triggers, a little overtravel is good.
As an aside with the Hiperfire, I never cared for the adjustable trigger shoe, just didn't find it necessary or practical for any of my gun game bullet hoses... but on a precision rifle, where trigger consistency is paramount, the adjustable shoe might not be such a bad idea...
thats a big reason i'll never buy that mdt digital triggerThe one thing I hate about TT's is no over-travel.
100% agree with you there.
Do you mind explaining why not? From what I understand is that the MDT trigger blade is connected to a load cell that actuates the release sear. That means the trigger blade does not move at all. This is very different from mechanical trigger where the trigger blade does move. Is there something I am missing?thats a big reason i'll never buy that mdt digital trigger
no you're right...just the idea of a trigger that doesnt move sounds extremely foreign to me and i don't believe i'd like itDo you mind explaining why not? From what I understand is that the MDT trigger blade is connected to a load cell that actuates the release sear. That means the trigger blade does not move at all. This is very different from mechanical trigger where the trigger blade does move. Is there something I am missing?
I just switched my bolt rifles from TT Diamonds to TacSport pro X two stage triggers. It just feels more natural, more controlled. I like the fact that I can also adjust the sear depth. They do have their moments though. I tried to change the shoe on one and ended up with a bag of spare parts. The other that I know of is its compatibility with Impact trigger hangers. I thought I was nuts so I called Impact and they let me in on their solution. You need to put one pin in and then line the other holes up and run a .125” reamer into the hole to true them up.Would be interesting to try a Tacsport pro x some day. Currently running trigger tech diamond pro curved and absolutely love it! Love the feeling of a solid wall after trigger break, but wouldn't mind trying a tacsport pro x just for fun.
I tried a digital trigger back a few years on a walther and it was terrible. There is no physical sensation that tells you when you are about to fire. You are left with the reality that if you touch the trigger it fires. While great from a safety perspective, it sucks from an accuracy perspective, you loose the control of taking it to the ledge and it breaking. I know there are those who love them at the Olympic level but I just found it frustrating.Do you mind explaining why not? From what I understand is that the MDT trigger blade is connected to a load cell that actuates the release sear. That means the trigger blade does not move at all. This is very different from mechanical trigger where the trigger blade does move. Is there something I am missing?
Thanks! This is super helpful!I just switched my bolt rifles from TT Diamonds to TacSport pro X two stage triggers. It just feels more natural, more controlled. I like the fact that I can also adjust the sear depth. They do have their moments though. I tried to change the shoe on one and ended up with a bag of spare parts. The other that I know of is its compatibility with Impact trigger hangers. I thought I was nuts so I called Impact and they let me in on their solution. You need to put one pin in and then line the other holes up and run a .125” reamer into the hole to true them up.
Even with those issues I really like the pro X 2 stage.