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Brass !!
- Thread starter Woozy Spec.
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Re: Brass !!
LESS PREP TIME WITH NORMA, MORE CONSISTANT, MOST IMPORTANT SOFTER WILL LAST LONGER GET MORE RELOADS THUS SAVES YOU MONEY IN LONG RUN SO NORMA IN THE END IS ACTUALLY CHEAPER
LESS PREP TIME WITH NORMA, MORE CONSISTANT, MOST IMPORTANT SOFTER WILL LAST LONGER GET MORE RELOADS THUS SAVES YOU MONEY IN LONG RUN SO NORMA IN THE END IS ACTUALLY CHEAPER
Re: Brass !!
<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">TURN OFF THE CAPS !!!</span></span>
My experience with Norma brass has been less than perfect. The primer pockets went WAY before any of my Winchester or BHA Match brass...
<span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">TURN OFF THE CAPS !!!</span></span>
My experience with Norma brass has been less than perfect. The primer pockets went WAY before any of my Winchester or BHA Match brass...
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thanks i have turned the caps off. sorry i am learning i have also had some issue with primer pockets but it was remington brass in my 6mm ack. my winchester brass has been really hard the solution is use lapua brass i have never had any problems with it
thanks i have turned the caps off. sorry i am learning i have also had some issue with primer pockets but it was remington brass in my 6mm ack. my winchester brass has been really hard the solution is use lapua brass i have never had any problems with it
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no worries...
I too have have nothing but great results from Lapua (any lapua product for that matter)...
But it hurts to lose multiple pieces of brass at a tactical match, so I went with Win/BHA...
I still use Lapua for F-T/R stuff though.
no worries...
I too have have nothing but great results from Lapua (any lapua product for that matter)...
But it hurts to lose multiple pieces of brass at a tactical match, so I went with Win/BHA...
I still use Lapua for F-T/R stuff though.
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To answer the OP's question...
There may be some internal capacity differences. I'm not familiar with the 300WSM brass, but I have noticed a bit of difference in the .308 brass.
There is a chart around somewhere that has the water capacity of each type of brass. I'd do a google on it.
To answer the OP's question...
There may be some internal capacity differences. I'm not familiar with the 300WSM brass, but I have noticed a bit of difference in the .308 brass.
There is a chart around somewhere that has the water capacity of each type of brass. I'd do a google on it.
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I have no experience with Norma brass.
I have Nosler and Winchester. According to the Nosler tech I spoke to at the time, their brass was made by Norma (not necessarily still true).
Nosler brass was as close to perfect as I can imagine. 250 rds. within less than 1gr. All exactly the same length with round necks of even wall thickness with less than .001 runout. Primer holes were deburred and chamfered. I have over 10 firings in my 300WM (some very hot) and this brass shows no signs of giving up the ghost (probably due for annealing, starting to get some neck tension variability)
I recently purchased 300 rds. of Win. brass. In one bag the weights were centered around plus/minus 1gr, but varied up to 5gr total. No prep work at all (normal). Necks were horribly out of round and thickness varied from .0115 to .017. I turned them all to .0125. I have yet to fire this brass, as the Nosler is still giving me great performance, but will start cycling it soon for spring load development (case volume difference from Nosler). I've been told it's very robust brass. It was the only brass available when I bought it.
John
I have no experience with Norma brass.
I have Nosler and Winchester. According to the Nosler tech I spoke to at the time, their brass was made by Norma (not necessarily still true).
Nosler brass was as close to perfect as I can imagine. 250 rds. within less than 1gr. All exactly the same length with round necks of even wall thickness with less than .001 runout. Primer holes were deburred and chamfered. I have over 10 firings in my 300WM (some very hot) and this brass shows no signs of giving up the ghost (probably due for annealing, starting to get some neck tension variability)
I recently purchased 300 rds. of Win. brass. In one bag the weights were centered around plus/minus 1gr, but varied up to 5gr total. No prep work at all (normal). Necks were horribly out of round and thickness varied from .0115 to .017. I turned them all to .0125. I have yet to fire this brass, as the Nosler is still giving me great performance, but will start cycling it soon for spring load development (case volume difference from Nosler). I've been told it's very robust brass. It was the only brass available when I bought it.
John
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I use Winchester brass for XTC in my AR15. Yes there are some wall thickness variations as the poster above described, but when sorting I find that I have two big piles and a small third pile. One pile is what I call my 600yd flat liners. These have a wall thickness variation of < 0.001. My 200/300yarders are <0.003 and all the rest are for practice and load development.
My biggest surprise when sorting brass like this was the amount of brass that wound up in pile#1 and how few in the reject pile. Out of 300 cases, around 35 or so were >0.003 wall variation. 10% rejects ain't so bad.
So yes Winchester does have some pretty wild variations but culling these few gives you a pretty good pile of brass. But you have to remember that a XTC shooter isn't looking for a few perfect cases, he needs a large quantity of usable cases.
I use Winchester brass for XTC in my AR15. Yes there are some wall thickness variations as the poster above described, but when sorting I find that I have two big piles and a small third pile. One pile is what I call my 600yd flat liners. These have a wall thickness variation of < 0.001. My 200/300yarders are <0.003 and all the rest are for practice and load development.
My biggest surprise when sorting brass like this was the amount of brass that wound up in pile#1 and how few in the reject pile. Out of 300 cases, around 35 or so were >0.003 wall variation. 10% rejects ain't so bad.
So yes Winchester does have some pretty wild variations but culling these few gives you a pretty good pile of brass. But you have to remember that a XTC shooter isn't looking for a few perfect cases, he needs a large quantity of usable cases.
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I have used alot of Win brass in my 300WM and it's worked great for me. I don't weigh it or sort by volume. First use I just neck size to make sure they are round and give me the proper neck tension needed, trim/chamfer/deburr the mouth and uniform the primer pockets. Seat primers, throw some powder, seat a bullet and shoot them.
I have used alot of Win brass in my 300WM and it's worked great for me. I don't weigh it or sort by volume. First use I just neck size to make sure they are round and give me the proper neck tension needed, trim/chamfer/deburr the mouth and uniform the primer pockets. Seat primers, throw some powder, seat a bullet and shoot them.
