Apparently PSA is selling those. https://palmettostatearmory.com/ita...ate-very-good-surplus-condition-bredam1s.html
Not cheap, but tempting...
Not cheap, but tempting...
Breda M1D Garand
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Ordered mine yesterday afternoon, don't think they are going to last long.
Whats the story on the scopes?
Was this configuration of rifle widely used in Europe in the post war era?
Yes, but all I have a couple of screenshots of it
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Are these definitely 7.62x51?
I have a Breda M1D and it’s in 30/06.
Breda produced BREN LMG’s in 30/06 and the boxes were all marked up as 7.62mm. Just the metric of .30
Just curious.
I have a Breda M1D and it’s in 30/06.
Breda produced BREN LMG’s in 30/06 and the boxes were all marked up as 7.62mm. Just the metric of .30
Just curious.
Great question. The Italian military originally received M1D rifles in 7.62x63 (30.06) from US military depots like Raritan, NJ under the [Marshall] Foreign Military Sales, and/or NATO Mutual Aid programs. The rifles were "organocally crated" in a similar manner as the British No4 (T) snipers and typically marked "CAL .30 M1D"
I'm the early/mid 60's, the majority of these stores were converted to 7.62x51 NATO using the TIPO 2 process (shortening the barrel, op rod, rear handguard, and stock) and the transit cases marked according to indicate their caliber designation (i.e., TIPO2).
Nearly all the recent BREDA M1D rifles the came into the country starting in 2020 were 7.62x51 conversions. Collectors and shooters quickly purchased them.
If you have an original 7.62x63 (30.06) Italian example, please share pictures and backstory. The community has found information about variations previously unknown to experienced collectors/historians in Italy. Every new bit of information is important to expand our understanding of the use of these rifles.
Regards,
Michael
I'm the early/mid 60's, the majority of these stores were converted to 7.62x51 NATO using the TIPO 2 process (shortening the barrel, op rod, rear handguard, and stock) and the transit cases marked according to indicate their caliber designation (i.e., TIPO2).
Nearly all the recent BREDA M1D rifles the came into the country starting in 2020 were 7.62x51 conversions. Collectors and shooters quickly purchased them.
If you have an original 7.62x63 (30.06) Italian example, please share pictures and backstory. The community has found information about variations previously unknown to experienced collectors/historians in Italy. Every new bit of information is important to expand our understanding of the use of these rifles.
Regards,
Michael
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I will grab some photos. It was Breda made under the Danish contract in 30/06. Did not come with a chest.
Here you go. Italian made (BREDA) for the Danish Military. Chambered in 30-06.
Bought back by Nuova Jager firearms in Italy and exported to the UK as a straight pull variant to comply with UK laws.
So each shot has to be manually cycled.
Semi Auto rifles apart from 22LR were banned in the UK in 1988 after a mass shooting.
Bought back by Nuova Jager firearms in Italy and exported to the UK as a straight pull variant to comply with UK laws.
So each shot has to be manually cycled.
Semi Auto rifles apart from 22LR were banned in the UK in 1988 after a mass shooting.
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I have also seen Beretta made 30-06 M1’s in the UK but not M1D’s. These also came from Nuova Jager.
Very nice looking rifle. However, your rifle is a commercial rebuild (likely NJ) utilizing Danish and Italian parts. The Danish military did use M1Ds but none were 7.62 NATO.
The op rod is marked 7.62/2 which indicates it was modified as part of the Italian TIPO2, ot type 2, conversion from 30.06 to 7.62x51.
Is the barrel 24 inches (609.6mm)?
When you pull back the operating rod, what are the markings?
I used to shoot at Bisley, and Lydd. You're rifle must attract some attention. Nice find.
Italian modified M1 rifles utilizing the type 2 method of shortening the stock, barrel, op rod, and handguard by 1/2inch, had the "CAL .30 M1" milled or ground off and "7.62-2" stamped on the flat behind the rear sight.
The example in the middle was a type 1 modification that was done utilizing a "as manufactured" 7.62x51 barrel, but later convered to an M1D utilizing the type2 process.
Are the banner stamps on the Beretta rifles you've observed marked in a similar manner?
The original Italian rifles were similarly marked but without the "E". Collectors believe the E means 'esportare' or export.
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