Rifle Scopes Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

[KnightOfNee]

Well, I'm looking for a new scope for my 300wm that I just got rebarreled and blueprinted.

I dont have a whole lot to spend, I cant afford a Nightforce.

Which of these two scopes do you think is better over all?

I want a scope that will take the recoil and return to zero with no problems and will last for years.

1. http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?con...Reticle%20Matte


or http://swfa.com/Hawke-85-25x42-Sidewinder-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P44555.aspx

 

[bsalbrig]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

The FFP model of the Bushnell is on sale at midway. It is a bit more than the one you listed from Natchez though.

 

[MALLARD]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

i would go with the bushnell, they are pretty tough , handles the recoil of the 50 cal

 

[z71rat]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

My rig is going to be sporting the Hawke Tactical 20X. I know that the Hawke's hold up to recoil extremely well, and are feature packed. Not to mention, IMHO, with a far superior reticle design...

DK

 

[exhogflyer]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

Can't comment on the Hawke but I have 2 of those Bushnell's and luv them. Super nice glass, well made, track clean and nice turret clicks.Very hard to beat for the money...they will hold up to recoil as 1 was mounted on a 338 Lapua.

 

[Ishallbie O'Cullkillin]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

I'm really interested in the Hawke scopes. Is the glass decent? I need to replace a Bushnell 3200 10x and gotta have better glass. do they track well? As of right now, I'm looking real hard at the Vortex Vipers.

 

[steve123]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

Hawk scopes aren't in the same league as 4200 bushnell's.More like a dolled up Bushnell banner if you were to try to compare.Get the Bushnell 4200.

 

[KnightOfNee]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

Im kinda worried about the lower elevation adjustment on the
Bushnell. I might shoot this rifle up to 2k yards for giggles and need enuff adjustment for that.

 

[ceylonc]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AlcoholicusRex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm really interested in the Hawke scopes. Is the glass decent? I need to replace a Bushnell 3200 10x and gotta have better glass. do they track well? As of right now, I'm looking real hard at the Vortex Vipers. </div></div>
I'm a Hawke & Bushnell dealer & am pretty familiar with both lineups. Optically, the Hawke Tac 30 line is on par with the glass used in the Nikon Monarch but won't quite resolve as well as the Elite 4200. You'll get a bright, clear image with the Hawke along with accurate tracking. One of the biggest selling factors for the Hawke (along with price) is the 1/2 mil dot reticle. It has two illumination settings (red/green) and is great for bench shooting. For the money the Hawke is going to be a tough scope to beat but optically isn't superior to the 4200.

 

[uhcoog1]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

Haven't seen a hawke, but I love my bushnell elite 4200 mil/mil ffp. I had the non ffp version before that, both have the same glass and it's great. My vote is for bushnell 4200

 

[steve123]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Knightofnee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im kinda worried about the lower elevation adjustment on the
Bushnell. I might shoot this rifle up to 2k yards for giggles and need enuff adjustment for that. </div></div>

What about a SWFA Super Sniper? Lots of travel and they are pretty good scopes.

 

[KnightOfNee]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Knightofnee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im kinda worried about the lower elevation adjustment on the
Bushnell. I might shoot this rifle up to 2k yards for giggles and need enuff adjustment for that. </div></div>

What about a SWFA Super Sniper? Lots of travel and they are pretty good scopes. </div></div>

I have a Super Sniper 10x power on my Savage 308 10fcp-k and love it, but on this 300wm I need a variable for closer shots incase I take it elk hunting, yet I need up to 20x for long range. :\

 

[steve123]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

I suggest seeing what comes out for 2011 because you're between a rock and a hard spot with features per dollar.It might be time to get a used NF or Vortex Razor.

 

[VYD]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

Elite glass is all Japan. Hawke SW Tactical is cool and all, great reticles and features, but the glass is China...you do the math. SWFA SS is also Japan and a Lifetime bs-free warranty.

 

[Ishallbie O'Cullkillin]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceylonc</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AlcoholicusRex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm really interested in the Hawke scopes. Is the glass decent? I need to replace a Bushnell 3200 10x and gotta have better glass. do they track well? As of right now, I'm looking real hard at the Vortex Vipers. </div></div>
I'm a Hawke & Bushnell dealer & am pretty familiar with both lineups. Optically, the Hawke Tac 30 line is on par with the glass used in the Nikon Monarch but won't quite resolve as well as the Elite 4200. You'll get a bright, clear image with the Hawke along with accurate tracking. One of the biggest selling factors for the Hawke (along with price) is the 1/2 mil dot reticle. It has two illumination settings (red/green) and is great for bench shooting. For the money the Hawke is going to be a tough scope to beat but optically isn't superior to the 4200. </div></div> Thanks, apples & oranges I guess. I know the Nikon Monarch has better glass than my Bushnell 3200 mil dot 10x with the 1" tube & oversize target knobs. The scope actually does what I need, except I can't see my bullets impacting like I can with a Nikon Buckmaster 4-14x.

 

[uhcoog1]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

Bushnell 3200 and 4200 are different levels of glass. 4200 & 6500 are the same, though.

 

[eleaf]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uhcoog1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bushnell 3200 and 4200 are different levels of glass. 4200 & 6500 are the same, though. </div></div>

Correct.

Knobs are the same on all 3 IIRC.

Very good knobs. Very tactile, though not so much sound.

 

[hamr56]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

I have both of these scopes, and for me the Hawke is the way I would go. I say this because for the money I have not used a scope that does what it does better. I would also give Ceylon a call.

 

[KnightOfNee]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hamr56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have both of these scopes, and for me the Hawke is the way I would go. I say this because for the money I have not used a scope that does what it does better. I would also give Ceylon a call. </div></div>

Does the Hawke Tactical have some sort of stop or indicator to show how many revolutions the elevation knob is turned?

Like say for instance, Im out shooting very long range,and I have to turn the elevation knob a few times, but I forget how many times that I have turned the knob. am I up sh_t creek without a paddle? is there anyway possible to have a fast reset reference to say 100 yards?

 

[eleaf]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Knightofnee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hamr56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have both of these scopes, and for me the Hawke is the way I would go. I say this because for the money I have not used a scope that does what it does better. I would also give Ceylon a call. </div></div>

Does the Hawke Tactical have some sort of stop or indicator to show how many revolutions the elevation knob is turned?

Like say for instance, Im out shooting very long range,and I have to turn the elevation knob a few times, but I forget how many times that I have turned the knob. am I up sh_t creek without a paddle? is there anyway possible to have a fast reset reference to say 100 yards? </div></div>

You won't get a zero stop until you start spending far more than what these scopes cost.

 

[KnightOfNee]

Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 vs Hawke Tactical 30?

Does it have some sort of indicator to let you know where the elevation is currently adjusted to, like the hash marks that my super sniper does?