Calling all owners of Ultralite Rifles

[Jigstick]

I’m building an ultralite rifle for some up coming hunts out west. I’m using the following components:

Defiance Rebel Sheep Port XM length
Defiance XM BDL bottom metal
Talley rings
Jewel trigger
Proof Research Lite Sendero 1:10 twist 24in

I’m having problems with the stock. My original intention was to use the Manners EH4 as it’s the most compact and lightest option. However it’s only 29in long. My barrel will have an OAL if 25 3/4in with the brake on.

I’m worried it will look like a broom stick being such a long barrel with such a short stock. However manners doesn’t offer many of their EH stocks compatible with heavy contour barrels.

Have any of you guys run into this problem? McMillan doesn’t give me many options either.

Any suggestions?

 

[Geno C.]

I say run it in the EH. I have an eh1 on my light gun and love it! Who cares if some douche doesn’t like the way your gun looks

 

[Supersubes]

I have a rifle going together with a sendero light and a eh4. It will fit fine. If you don’t like the short forend look, switch to an eh2.

 

[Jigstick]

I don’t want it to look awkward. I could care less what others think of it. It’s a 300wsm.

The EH4 weighs 26oz inletted. I could use the MCS T with the carbon fiber option and it would. One in at 28oz. The T is 31in long. I actually have one on another rifle. I’m just not sure it’s worth saving 2oz to have the gun look funky

I’d be interested to see some guns in EH4 stocks though

 

[MountainHunter]

What caliber, what scope and what are you planning on your maximum range being?

Regardless, form should follow function especially when killing stuff.

 

[Jigstick]

300wsm 1:10 twist. Using Talley rings and a Vortex Razor LH coming in at 15.5oz. Scoped rifle should weigh right around 7.7lbs. Max range 1000yds. I’m fortunate enough to have a 1400yd Range ?

The EH2 can only handle up to a #4 barrel. Not a lite sendero. Atleast that’s what manners told me today on the phone.

 

[MountainHunter]

Nice, with the range in mind I'd just roll the EH1. You're really not gonna save much weight in the stock and you're saving plenty of weight with your scope selection.

I've got an EH1 on order with the ultralight cheek piece. I've got them inletting it for a straight 1.25" contour so I can put whatever barrel I want in there and it saves a little weight, however minuscule that is.

For a max point blank range hunting rifle I'd say cut every ounce but for killing stuff at 1000 yards I want to be as comfortable behind it as I am my match rifle.

 

[Jigstick]

Yeah the EH1 and EH4 are the only uktralite stocks that can handle the lite sendero. I’m trying to avoid the pistol grip style stock on this build. I use them on my match rifles but prefer a more traditional style hunting stock.

 

[MountainHunter]

How bout this?

Component Stock ClymR

www.gunwerks.com

 

[huntsman22]

EH6 will take a sendero light

 

[D2junky]

I just got my EH6A in from Manners and it’s inlet for a Remmy sendero contour with plenty of meat left over in the forearm....and comes in at 31.75 long. For some reason the non-adjustable will supposedly handle up to a number 3.

 

[Hawk in WY]

I have a very similar rifle without the Proof carbon fiber barrel.

The McMillan Hunter's Edge carbon fiber stock works well.

I'm not a fan of magazines on hunting rifles.

I'm about to replace the Talley rings with a rail. I swap scopes around more than most.

Very light, magnum rifles are hard to shoot well. Mine needs a firm hold on the forend.

I would almost welcome an extra pound or two on the rifle to make it easier to shoot. Two pounds more on the rifle can be offset by two pounds less body weight. Win/win all around.

 

[Jeeper48]

I'm about to replace the Talley rings with a rail. I swap scopes around more than most.

Is swapping scopes the only reason you are going away from the Talley's? I only ask because I just installed them on my 28N and hoping I wont have any issues

 

[Hawk in WY]

Is swapping scopes the only reason you are going away from the Talley's? I only ask because I just installed them on my 28N and hoping I wont have any issues

I struggled shooting good groups until I realized recoil was pushing shots high. An eight pound 300 WM will do that. A change in technique solved that problem. Left hand needs to be on the forend, not under the buttstock.

I blamed the rings initially, and am now more confident with picatinny mounts. The Talley's are lighter and just as secure, but the rail gives me more confidence. The Talley's do look better on a hunting rifle if that matters.

Swapping scopes around is the clear advantage for the Picatinny.

 

[CuTm]

How bout this?

Component Stock ClymR

www.gunwerks.com

I might go with this stock. I’ve been thinking long and hard about it. I feel like having the built in pic rail and the negative comb would make a great stock.

 

[Edds]

..... McMillan doesn’t give me many options either.

McMillan has at least 5 hunting stocks that will fit that barrel. The Remington Hunter, Game Warden, HTG, and a couple more I can't remember the name of.

 

[Wyfox]

Not my rifle, Blue Mountain Precision built it. I was looking at the same stock or the EH8+ for an ultra lite high country rifle.

 

[Wyfox]

EH8+ with Sendero lite

 

[supercorndogs]

I dont really like the look of the EH1, or any vertical grip stock. Coincidently they fit me very well, all my rifles are in one now.

 

[Jigstick]

I came across that Blue Mountain rifle the other day. I guess it doesn't look too bad. Heres where im at. The EH4 is 29in in length, and weighs 26oz. The MCS-T is 31.5in long and weighs 28oz with the carbon fiber option. So for 2oz im getting a longer stock. I have to believe that the stock being longer would make it more stable to shoot off a bipod or offhand...as your support point is closer to the muzzle. Is it worth a 2oz weight penalty for that slight benefit?

 

[beretta_man11]

If you only have 1 round in the chamber and leave the 3-4 out of the magazine, there's your 2oz.

 

[Hawk in WY]

If you only have 1 round in the chamber and leave the 3-4 out of the magazine, there's your 2oz.

Or one less chocolate bar or a one mile walk. Fitness for hunting is much underappreciated.

 

[CuTm]

I would get boots a few oz lighter or part of you’re clothing. I don’t believe you’re going to find any noticeable difference in accuracy as far as the two stocks you mentioned are concerned. Build the rifle the way you want it.

 

[XTREM HTR16]

Ask Manners about the EH-6 Plus

 

[Geno C.]

I dont really like the look of the EH1, or any vertical grip stock. Coincidently they fit me very well, all my rifles are in one now.

I like the look and the feel?