Suppressors can for 11.5 sbr

[Captain Moroni]

I cant remember witch one either the m4-1000 or the m4-2000 for an 11.5 inch sbr semi auto I cant seem to find the info on AAC's site
also any other recomendations for a fast attach can for an sbr?
I should be getting the last stamp I sent in soon so I need to start thinking about the next project

 

[Red_SC]

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I chose the M4-2000, and sent in the paperwork for the SBR on the same day. That was two years ago- I still haven't finished putting together the 11.5", but I love the M4-2000.

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

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Personally, I would go 1000 with a brake attachment.

1000 is just a little louder, and not full auto rated, but for the price difference I dont see where a 2000 is needed.

I would go with the brake over the Blackout mount due to the fact that the brake will act as additional blast baffle and help keep from burning the baffle in the can up.

I think the biggest differences between to 1k and the 2k is that the 2k is full auto rated, has full incolnel baffles, and uses a 51 tooth mount instead of the 18 tooth mount.

 

[Red_SC]

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There's not a lot of difference between the two. When I ordered mine, I figured that this would be a lifetime investment, I might as well get the one I really wanted and not wish I'd gotten the next model up. The M4-2K is supposed to be a small amount quieter, but it's really a non-issue. Choose the one you want. I could have saved a couple hundred and probably not really noticed a difference- but I would have thought about it every time I picked the can up. YMMV

 

[wilfly4food]

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I got the m4-2000 and working on the sbr right now. Like to know what you find out to make sure i am on the right track.

 

[AlabamaShooter]

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Hey Red, you coming back to west-central Alabama any time soon. I really want to try a suppressor and see how it is, and get the approval process started.

 

[KYS]

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Do not put the AAC break on a SBR!!!! I had it on my 10.5 and it sounded like a mortor going off. When I did carbine classes or shot on a line people would get up and leave or tell me to tone it down. I wasnt about to start running all my classes suppressed all the time. I went back to the blackout mount and dont regret it.

If your gonna spend the coin go ahead and get the M4-2000. it will last longer as well.

I do have two M4-1000's one is on a 223 bolt gun and it is great for that rifle but I noticed on the semi's its just not enough. You could also look into the YHM QD 5.56 Phantom. they are full auto rated and built like a brick shit house! Got a buddy I shoot with weekly and he rocks one on his 12.5" AR15. I like it so much Im getting one for an upcoming build.

good luck

 

[slimguns]

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good price too!!

 

[Captain Moroni]

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so both are good for the short bbl just the 2000 is FA rated? I do like the brake I have one on my .308 and should have the 7.62-SD stamp soon do you get a big muzzle flash with it I would bet you probably will with a shorty but I probably wouldnt shoot it that much with out the can anyway.

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kyshooter338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do not put the AAC break on a SBR!!!! I had it on my 10.5 and it sounded like a mortor going off. When I did carbine classes or shot on a line people would get up and leave or tell me to tone it down. <span style="color: #FF0000">I wasnt about to start running all my classes suppressed all the time. </span>I went back to the blackout mount and dont regret it.

If your gonna spend the coin go ahead and get the M4-2000. it will last longer as well.

I do have two M4-1000's one is on a 223 bolt gun and it is great for that rifle but I noticed on the semi's its just not enough. You could also look into the YHM QD 5.56 Phantom. they are full auto rated and built like a brick shit house! Got a buddy I shoot with weekly and he rocks one on his 12.5" AR15. I like it so much Im getting one for an upcoming build.

good luck </div></div>

I got a question, why is it that you wont run a class with an SBR and the can constantly? Thats the reason I got an SBR was because running my can on a 16 inch gun was heavy out on the end of a 16 inch gun. An SBR and the can bring it back to around the length of a 16 inch gun and I dont notice it.

 

[Whiskey 2-1]

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A buddy of mine and I have recently been running an M4-2000 on an 8" SBR with the blackout mount. The results have been quite pleasing. Noise without the can in place is not nearly as bad as I expected, and suppressed function is very good. We were using it as a test platform, but it has turned out so nice I think it may become my next personal weapon.

 

[KYS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsydlooknin75</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kyshooter338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do not put the AAC break on a SBR!!!! I had it on my 10.5 and it sounded like a mortor going off. When I did carbine classes or shot on a line people would get up and leave or tell me to tone it down. <span style="color: #FF0000">I wasnt about to start running all my classes suppressed all the time. </span>I went back to the blackout mount and dont regret it.

If your gonna spend the coin go ahead and get the M4-2000. it will last longer as well.

I do have two M4-1000's one is on a 223 bolt gun and it is great for that rifle but I noticed on the semi's its just not enough. You could also look into the YHM QD 5.56 Phantom. they are full auto rated and built like a brick shit house! Got a buddy I shoot with weekly and he rocks one on his 12.5" AR15. I like it so much Im getting one for an upcoming build.

good luck </div></div>

I got a question, why is it that you wont run a class with an SBR and the can constantly? Thats the reason I got an SBR was because running my can on a 16 inch gun was heavy out on the end of a 16 inch gun. An SBR and the can bring it back to around the length of a 16 inch gun and I dont notice it. </div></div>

Because sometimes the teachers of the class ask you not to run the can. They want to encourage communication wether you can hear or not. Hand signals, that sort of thing. We run suppressors in buildings and when there are more then 10 shooters in one concentrated area. Its not real world practice if your running a can all the time.... plus your gonna shoot it out quicker and I dont know about you but I prefer not to throw my $1000.00 investment in the shitter to quickly! Every class is different as is every situation. I just dont think you should count on shooting suppressed mode all the time. The break is not practical on a semi auto short barreled rifle. Its meant for more of a precision platform in my opinion. But everyone is different.

 

[KYS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MDShooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A buddy of mine and I have recently been running an M4-2000 on an 8" SBR with the blackout mount. The results have been quite pleasing. Noise without the can in place is not nearly as bad as I expected, and suppressed function is very good. We were using it as a test platform, but it has turned out so nice I think it may become my next personal weapon. </div></div>

You do know that AAC wont warranty a can that is being run on anything shorter then a 10.5" barrel.... You increase your risk for a baffle strike.

Will it happen? probably not, but just giving you a heads up.

 

[slimguns]

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Anyone used an AAC Cyclone on a 10.5"-12.5"? Would the extra volume help?

 

[Red_SC]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AlabamaShooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Red, you coming back to west-central Alabama any time soon. I really want to try a suppressor and see how it is, and get the approval process started. </div></div>

I don't have any trips through there planned right now. If you happen to get up around Trenton, GA you could stop in on David Saylors of Liberty Suppressors. I know he'll let you demo his cans if you bring the ammo. AAC is outside of Atlanta, but I'm not sure if they can let people demo cans at their facilities- might be worth a check if you're out that way. Another option is to find some dealers in your area, I know mine will let you try out a suppressor if you're interested.

I'll let you know if I do end up going that way, though.

 

[fastford]

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another +1 for the m4-2000 it will be an ideal can for you sbr

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

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http://silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=45838

read that

 

[Bacarrat]

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Oh now they come out with a 18 tooth brake for a 5.56... Bastards!

 

[long-shot]

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A friend of mine has an M-2000 and I'm surprised at the erosion that has taken place already. You can visually see cracking and wear. The can has only been used on carbine length systems, and for 200 rounds on an 8" barreled pistol (.223). It got me to look at my Cyclone K and there was nothing more than carbon. This could be an isolated incidence but it was interesting to me at least.

 

[slimguns]

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I'll ask it this way, should I not use my Cyclone on a 10.5"?

Anyone....

 

[long-shot]

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Slimguns,

This is all hearsay so my opinion means nothing, but apparently the added heat and pressure of SBR's and specifically .223's will eat non-specific cans so your Cyclone would suffer the consequences.

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slimguns</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll ask it this way, should I not use my Cyclone on a 10.5"?

Anyone.... </div></div>

Its big and heavy.... but other than that no reason you couldnt. The added volume will help with the suppression but the bore diameter compared to projectile diameter is going to hurt suppression. Its really a wash when those two are figured though. Ive found that it will be slightly louder than using an actual 556 can but nothing extraordinary.

 

[Red_SC]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: long-shot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A friend of mine has an M-2000 and I'm surprised at the erosion that has taken place already. You can visually see cracking and wear. The can has only been used on carbine length systems, and for 200 rounds on an 8" barreled pistol (.223). It got me to look at my Cyclone K and there was nothing more than carbon. This could be an isolated incidence but it was interesting to me at least. </div></div>

Very interesting, that's a very low round count, I think I'd see what AAC had to say about it. I have several thousand through mine, including keeping it scalding hot in a couple of classes, with no visible erosion, although mine's on a 14.5" barrel.

 

[Bacarrat]

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Another reason why suppressor manufacturers do not like to warranty their suppressors with barrels shorter then 10.5" Your friend might want to try a brake mount as more of the gases would be pushed to the side and not directly onto the first baffle. I am thinking about going this route since AAC has released the new 18 tooth brake.

 

[KYS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: long-shot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A friend of mine has an M-2000 and I'm surprised at the erosion that has taken place already. You can visually see cracking and wear. The can has only been used on carbine length systems, and for 200 rounds on an 8" barreled pistol (.223). It got me to look at my Cyclone K and there was nothing more than carbon. This could be an isolated incidence but it was interesting to me at least. </div></div>

Your first problem is your using something with less barrel then what they recommend. I would say that is why your friend is seeing more abuse on the baffles.