Catching brass?

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I do it at the range to look cool
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DesertHK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Countersniper??? </div></div>

I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you are saying here.

R,

John
 
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I don't know why anyone else would catch brass, but I do so I can reload. Are you asking about catching brass like a ninja as soon as it's expelled? That would be pretty cool to watch.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iggy.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know why anyone else would catch brass, but I do so I can reload. Are you asking about catching brass like a ninja as soon as it's expelled? That would be pretty cool to watch. </div></div>

Yes - that was my initial thought too. Seems like something that a Ninja Assasin would do. Or something they saw on TV and thought it was "tacti-cool".

However, knowing that alot of you guys are experts out there, I thought I would pose the question to help me understand without bias.

R,

John
 
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i don't claim to know the textbook reason as i'm not military but having watched a couple of sniper school specials on the military channel. i've seen guys push the bolt back slowly with there thumb and let the brass fall into there palm.
i suppose along with not leaving behind evidence say on a "black op" if you were in an area with a high chance of being spotted that a nice shiny peice of brass flying three feet could attract attention. along the same lines as covering your scope so the glass isn't reflecting light.
 
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its not so much taught to "catch" your brass, but we would always gather up the brass as the spotter every 3-5 shots as to not leave a trace that we were there. It works wonders on an enemy when they have to be worried every second they are in the open. If you leave no trace, they cant pinpoint your location or guess were you will be next time. Nothing more scary than knowing that everytime you step out with that AK that you may catch a 30 cal pill, and its worse if you havent the foggiest idea where its coming from.
 
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Well imaging you just stalk all night long to get into position and you have a high value target in your sights. You take your shot. Now time to leave, so you chamber another round into your rifle just incase you need it. Damn thats when they saw the expended round being throw 2' away. You just gave up you position, you compromised yourself. Does it make more sense now?

Jamie
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its not so much taught to "catch" your brass, but we would always gather up the brass as the spotter every 3-5 shots as to not leave a trace that we were there. It works wonders on an enemy when they have to be worried every second they are in the open. If you leave no trace, they cant pinpoint your location or guess were you will be next time. Nothing more scary than knowing that everytime you step out with that AK that you may catch a 30 cal pill, and its worse if you havent the foggiest idea where its coming from. </div></div>

That make a lot of sense - the effect on the enemy's morale.

Thanks for the informed input!

R,

John
 
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Im not sure they are taught to "catch" their brass as much as police it.

Although I try to catch it as it is ejected. I pull the bolt back with the back of my thumb and catch it with my right hand.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ok, flame me if you will, but isnt it a little hot? </div></div>

Brass doesn't really get hot from firing,it gets hot during extraction. Thats why ARs have much hotter brass then boltguns. Friction from the brass being extracted from the chamber while still under pressure makes them hot as Hell.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: brokefromguns</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i try to do it all the time....its an acquired taste...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWxRXeuZ7p0 </div></div>

was this video to demonstrate the technique cause i can clearly see the brass flying in the video? </div></div>I didnt quite get that either....
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One of the things I have taken notice to is really rapid bolt manipulation. I see the whole purpose to this, rapid follow up and such, however, I can understand in some situations where your position being known is not as important as putting rounds downrange. I do believe in a situation Beck.Jamie was alking about is easily avoided. In a bolt gun you control how fast that shell comes out. You get to your shooting position undetected, range, adjust, wait for the right condition, fire. Target is no longer an issue. You do want a live round for just in case, so you smoothly work the bolt to where the empty case just falls a few inches from the rifle. Your movements are much less telling, and you dont have to chase brass.
 
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We were not taught to catch the brass but encouraged to practice it. So I 'ninjacatch'the brass everytime on the range. Its not really that usefull in the real world, for lots of reasons.
It does require a pretty aggresive reload, witch makes an undesired loud noise. Propably louder than the brass would hitting the ground.
It takes time away from the reload for a quick follow-up shot.
The case really doesnt fly that far. If it on a rare occasion makes sence, just pick it up before you leave.
If you really need to stay totally ninja style hidden. Its better to rack the bolt very slow and remove the brass from the chamber with your finger.

We mainly do it to look cool at competitions.
 
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With the price of brass these days I always catch my brass. I have some real brass whores at my range!

I admit, I do flare my fingers out so that I at least knock down the brass so it stays pretty close to or on my bench. If I'm shooting prone, to hell with it. Let it fly, especially this time of year when I'm the only nut laying on the ground shivering and bitching about my groups ;-)
 
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Sounds like the majority consensus is that those who catch the brass mainly do it to keep the brass in good condition for reloading. Practical, field application is doubtful, but in the field some may police their brass before they leave their position.

Thanks all for the great insights.

Respectfully,

John
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trobertson5-0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ok, flame me if you will, but isnt it a little hot? </div></div>

Brass doesn't really get hot from firing,it gets hot during extraction. Thats why ARs have much hotter brass then boltguns. Friction from the brass being extracted from the chamber while still under pressure makes them hot as Hell. </div></div>

What? "Blow back" plus earlier extraction and more often than not a faster firing cycle. Not "friction" as such.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trobertson5-0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ok, flame me if you will, but isnt it a little hot? </div></div>

Brass doesn't really get hot from firing,it gets hot during extraction. Thats why ARs have much hotter brass then boltguns. Friction from the brass being extracted from the chamber while still under pressure makes them hot as Hell. </div></div>

Exactly where did you absorb this tidbit of knowledge?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: brokefromguns</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i try to do it all the time....its an acquired taste...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWxRXeuZ7p0 </div></div>

was this video to demonstrate the technique cause i can clearly see the brass flying in the video? </div></div>I didnt quite get that either....
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savvy the end of the vid-clip....i got my dick beater up catching the brass....its short i know but in fact the first round got flung because i had to acquire the second target and post a brisk time as i was on the clock......hope you understand.
 
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Hehe, I thought I was the only one doing that. Some actions have a very consistent ejection, which makes it easier. Some other a little less.
I think I average at 80% catch rate
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vanilla Gorilla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I work the bolt just slowly enough to extract the case, then I remove it with my hand. It gets saved to be reloaded later, no point in chasing it if I don't have to. </div></div>
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