Anyone seen one or put hands on one of their factory rifles? Base price is $1200 or so and options for a few upgrades.
Wondering how they stack next to a BCM Recce 16?
Wondering how they stack next to a BCM Recce 16?
Centurion CM4?
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BCM is over rated in my experience. Some lowers do not work with gen 3 pmags, in my experience their barrels aren’t as accurate, and not a fan of their customer service. They have good marketing, a cult following, and lots of endorsers.
Centurion has a rep for some of the most accurate cl hammerforged barrels on the market. The owner and his wife still personally respond to calls and emails. The owner has more knowledge of the platform. I’d buy from Monte over Paul any day of the week.
Centurion has a rep for some of the most accurate cl hammerforged barrels on the market. The owner and his wife still personally respond to calls and emails. The owner has more knowledge of the platform. I’d buy from Monte over Paul any day of the week.
I find my self gravitating to Centurion parts a lot lately. Absolutely functional, look great, fair pricing.
I own two of the CM4's. Their fit and finish is outstanding and they are very well made. The C4 pic rail looks to be one tough cookie.
Monty and Corrie are top notch. I would continue to buy Centurion over most out there. The mk12 barrels and RECCE barrels are the best available IMO.
I bought a Centurion Arms 308 receiver set and it was out of spec in almost every way. I was a fan of theirs up until then. They of course said it was all in spec when I sent it back. I am out about $65 in shipping and FFL fees. I'll never buy their parts again.
Damn that sucks man. I have no desire to "try" anything large frame other than LMT so I won't be the next guinea pig.
My two 5.56's keep on chuggin along.
My two 5.56's keep on chuggin along.
I'll start with describing the problems with the lower receiver. The bore for the receiver extension was out of round with the bottom of the bore being the bad spot. I measured the inside of the bore with the back side of my calipers which confirmed this. I didn't record the numbers but the bore was definitely taller than it was wide. The receiver extension (genuine KAC SR25) was barely even catching the threads in the lower area there was a ton of slop in the fit due to this. I'm talking around 3/4 of deflection or so with the RE screwed into the lower without the castle nut being tightened down. I tightened down the castle nut and it tilted upwards at about 2 degrees. There is no way the BCG would have reciprocated in and out of the RE without binding. I emailed Corrie and we agreed I would send it back so they could further inspect it. I was still waiting on the hand guard, barrel, and charging handle to come in so I hadn't started assembling the upper at that point. Like an anxious kid wanting to get the gun put together as fast as possible I sent the lower back to them in hopes to have a replacement asap. I should have waited until I got my upper parts.
Now I'll describe the problems with the upper. The charging handle would go in about 1/4 of the way and then get tight. At about half way it would pretty much not go anymore without excessive force. Instead of damaging something I didn't try to go any further. The charging handle used was a brand new BCM gunfighter that measured dead nuts to the specs on the charging handle drawings. Next up is the barrel nut threads. The barrel nut screwed on so sloppily that it almost didn't even engage the threads on the upper. When compared to a Mega Maten upper and a Cross Machine Tool upper they were around .030 smaller in diameter. I wouldn't have even dared to try to torque the nut as it probably would have damaged the threads on the upper. The hand guard was a Troy with DPMS compatible threads. The nut from this handguard fit the other 2 uppers without issue. So I emailed Corrie explaining this issue in pretty good detail. She seemed eager to help and asked for me to send the upper back so they could inspect it.
Fast forward about a week and I got an email from Corrie saying that Monty inspected everything and it was all fine and in spec. Furthermore, they wouldn't send me another set because all of their sets were made to the same spec and I would just have the same issues using my parts on another set. My problems were just chalked up to "tolerance stacking" and they would give me a refund of the receiver set price and the shipping I paid to get it to my FFL. I accepted and moved on with my life as I didn't see any use in arguing with them. So I'm out the FFL fee, the shipping costs incurred to get the set back to them, my time, and the money I spent on a set of KAC pivot and take down pins that I no longer had a use for. By the way, those did fit nicely in the lower. Too bad they don't fit in other lowers so I could have used them somewhere else.
So yea, I'm done with Centurion Arms for good.
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