Changing Muzzle Device on 14.5" AR

[treillw]

I'm considering getting an AR with a 14.5" barrel and pinned flash hider, probably a Daniel Defense. I probably would like to put a can on it. Is it possible to change the flash hider to a can adapter and still have it legal? How?

Thanks!

 

[JustinTX]

Gunsmith can take off the pin & weld brake and replace with one of your choice. Not a big deal.

 

[RUTGERS95]

I'm considering getting an AR with a 14.5" barrel and pinned flash hider, probably a Daniel Defense. I probably would like to put a can on it. Is it possible to change the flash hider to a can adapter and still have it legal? How?

Thanks!

as said in post before mine, gunsmith can remove and redo. two things however, DD supports universal background check so I'd look at other options and a great brake for a suppressor is the Dead Air

 

[Naaman]

as said in post before mine, gunsmith can remove and redo. two things however, DD supports universal background check so I'd look at other options and a great brake for a suppressor is the Dead Air

Wow... that's a really old story.

I remember when I got the email "from Marty" (it was the DD news letter, not personal correspondence) in support of Fix NICS. I was really dismayed at the position that he took. If memory serves, it was on a Friday afternoon. On Monday morning, I got another email from Marty (again, the news letter) profusely apologizing and rescinding his previously expressed support. When I get access to my personal email, I'll see if I can dig it up and post it.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Wow... that's a really old story.

I remember when I got the email "from Marty" (it was the DD news letter, not personal correspondence) in support of Fix NICS. I was really dismayed at the position that he took. If memory serves, it was on a Friday afternoon. On Monday morning, I got another email from Marty (again, the news letter) profusely apologizing and rescinding his previously expressed support. When I get access to my personal email, I'll see if I can dig it up and post it.

yup but not that old, only a few years but no one should be supporting him. FK him besides, plenty of other options out there that support gun owners

 

[Naaman]

yup but not that old, only a few years but no one should be supporting him. FK him besides, plenty of other options out there that support gun owners

Just playing devil's advocate, here, but we've seen before folks around here say that when a company can admit to screwing up and right the ship, they should be forgiven. Considering all their .gov contracts, it would be easy for them to do like others and admit no fault and take the hit against civilian sales.

Just curious: is there anything DD can say that would change your mind? I have no dog in the fight... just looking for what folks consider a redeemable act/statement. FWIW, I "believed" the apology letter.

EDIT: I was able to find it on web without getting my email:

Daniel Defense's Marty Daniel: I Was Wrong About FixNICS - The Truth About Guns

On Friday, Daniel Defense head honcho Marty Daniel issued a statement announcing his support for the FixNICS bill currently pending in both the House and Senate. But FixNICS hasn’t exactly been popular with gun rights supporters, many of whom see it as a slippery slope step toward universal...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

Friends,
First and foremost, let me say that I have heard your voices. I put out a statement on Friday, supporting Senate Bill S.2135 also known as the Fix NICS Act. I have received overwhelming feedback since putting out this statement, which has brought to my attention that there are significant and justified concerns regarding this bill. I can no longer in good conscience put my support behind S.2135.

I released the original statement because I believed it was the best option available at this time to hold back the continued attacks on the Second Amendment and the erosion of our rights. I was wrong.
Let me be very clear:
• My life’s work is to protect an individual’s right to keep and bear arms by holding our lawmakers accountable to the Second Amendment.
• I believe that all firearms laws that limit the rights of law abiding citizens are unconstitutional.
• I will never support any legislation which infringes on any individuals rights, and could potentially subvert due process.
• Myself, my Family, and Daniel Defense love and serve our Veterans every day. I would never support a legislative measure which would strip them of their rights based on their history of service and sacrifice.
Thank you to everyone who reached out and voiced your concerns. You are a motivated and passionate group of people which I am proud to call my peers, my friends, and my family. We are all united in one fight – the fight to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. I will never turn my back on you. I stand with you and I am ready to continue to fight for our rights.
-Marty

 

[RUTGERS95]

Just playing devil's advocate, here, but we've seen before folks around here say that when a company can admit to screwing up and right the ship, they should be forgiven. Considering all their .gov contracts, it would be easy for them to do like others and admit no fault and take the hit against civilian sales.

Just curious: is there anything DD can say that would change your mind? I have no dog in the fight... just looking for what folks consider a redeemable act/statement. FWIW, I "believed" the apology letter.

EDIT: I was able to find it on web without getting my email:

Daniel Defense's Marty Daniel: I Was Wrong About FixNICS - The Truth About Guns

On Friday, Daniel Defense head honcho Marty Daniel issued a statement announcing his support for the FixNICS bill currently pending in both the House and Senate. But FixNICS hasn’t exactly been popular with gun rights supporters, many of whom see it as a slippery slope step toward universal...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

No, i stopped buying dd, don't own Troy, Ruger, black rifle coffee products etc. Marty only caved when the immediate backlash hit. He showed his true colors. at some point we stay united or continue losing ground

 

[RUTGERS95]

Ask Colt how ignoring civilian sales played out for them

 

[Naaman]

No, i stopped buying dd, don't own Troy, Ruger, black rifle coffee products etc. Marty only caved when the immediate backlash hit. He showed his true colors. at some point we stay united or continue losing ground

Right on. A man's gotta have standards.

The reason I don't hold it against him is because my initial read on "Fix NICS" was that it was supposed to be a "good" thing. However, it did take me far less time (and no real input from "the community") to game out the worst case scenarios in my own head. By the time DD expressed a position, I was surprised he was so late to the party.

In any case, some folks (myself included) put them on "probation" afterwards. At this point, I'm no longer concerned about it, as long as nothing similar ever happens again.

Ask Colt how ignoring civilian sales played out for them

Could a similar angle be applied to HK? That is, they do sell to civilians... just not the "good" stuff.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Right on. A man's gotta have standards.

The reason I don't hold it against him is because my initial read on "Fix NICS" was that it was supposed to be a "good" thing. However, it did take me far less time (and no real input from "the community") to game out the worst case scenarios in my own head. By the time DD expressed a position, I was surprised he was so late to the party.

In any case, some folks (myself included) put them on "probation" afterwards. At this point, I'm no longer concerned about it, as long as nothing similar ever happens again.


Could a similar angle be applied to HK? That is, they do sell to civilians... just not the "good" stuff.

I'll be honest, I don't even consider HK as I'm an LMT/KAC guy so if I'm going to spend the extra coin, it's one of those two. Good discussion though and agree, if you don't stand for something, you stand for nothing! Our rights are under constant attack, I simply will not support those that would infringe on them to the best of my ability.

 

[NY700]

I honestly think people make too big a deal out of the universal back ground check thing
We all agree laws only apply to the law abiding
If there is a master gun registry or not there are 10s of millions of gun owning households and hundreds of millions of firearms. Unless you happen to be in the first wave blind sided by the attempt to confiscate firearms everyone is going to hear about it and at that point it is game on anyway.

Do you speak on forums fully cloned and masked through VPNs to hide your where abouts

Do you make all firearms, ammo accessories and range time in cash off book?

I would rather hide as a needle in a stack of needles.

If anything coming out of the trump presidency and watching liberals completely convince themselves that they were creating a coup to create an authoritarian regime and watching all the left wing folks go out and by firearms (which they did in droves) we should now more than ever be able to speak to their fears and explain why 2A is for everyone and one of the founding principles of this country was the idea of a system that could move on beyond the views and opinions of a single administration and term

 

[Naaman]

I honestly think people make too big a deal out of the universal back ground check thing
We all agree laws only apply to the law abiding
If there is a master gun registry or not there are 10s of millions of gun owning households and hundreds of millions of firearms. Unless you happen to be in the first wave blind sided by the attempt to confiscate firearms everyone is going to hear about it and at that point it is game on anyway.

Do you speak on forums fully cloned and masked through VPNs to hide your where abouts

Do you make all firearms, ammo accessories and range time in cash off book?

I would rather hide as a needle in a stack of needles.

If anything coming out of the trump presidency and watching liberals completely convince themselves that they were creating a coup to create an authoritarian regime and watching all the left wing folks go out and by firearms (which they did in droves) we should now more than ever be able to speak to their fears and explain why 2A is for everyone and one of the founding principles of this country was the idea of a system that could move on beyond the views and opinions of a single administration and term

I think its a case of poking the sleeping giant. The background check thing is just so stupid (if one knows the current laws already) that it makes you stop and think: it's either political virtue signaling, or there is something more coming down the pipeline behind it.

 

[Naaman]

I'll be honest, I don't even consider HK as I'm an LMT/KAC guy so if I'm going to spend the extra coin, it's one of those two. Good discussion though and agree, if you don't stand for something, you stand for nothing! Our rights are under constant attack, I simply will not support those that would infringe on them to the best of my ability.

Amen.

 

[NY700]

I think its a case of poking the sleeping giant. The background check thing is just so stupid (if one knows the current laws already) that it makes you stop and think: it's either political virtue signaling, or there is something more coming down the pipeline behind it.

Oh your spot on for sure. What I’ve discovered in my life is just how little one side understands or seeks to understand the perspective of the other. As I head into my 5th decade on this planet I’ve have spent a third of my life in a super liberal heavily populated area, a third in a very middle of the road place and am coming up on a third in a very right wing conservative location.

When you look at population dispersion in this country no shocker there are really just 15-20 major areas densely populated and the. The rest of the country. There worlds are so different there experiences are so different. Where I grew up not a single person I knew was a firearm owner and if they had a firearm literally no one mentioned it. No hunting no Conceal carry no target shooting. I was the “odd one” because I had some “high power” pellet rifles. Firearms were literally only seen and discussed from the perspective of cops and robbers. Gangbangers and drug dealers. That’s it. When you have generations of people growing up like that the idea of owning an AR a pistol is really out there. In high school I got a pager. First thing my father says is what you dealing drugs now? And that’s how a firearm owner would be looked at either they are a criminal or some bunker freak getting ready for the apocalypse. Your not going to just casually pursued that person into understanding why anyone would need or want a fire arm beside may be a shotgu ln or hunting rifle and even then it would be odd cause who actually still does that.

So I think there is some merit into slowly walking those people into comfort by assuring them that there are some safe guards in place even if it’s only for the law abiding. There is no perfect solution.

I think normalizing shooting sports is an avenue to normalizing firearms. But. Who knows

 

[bohica17]

If you want to run a suppressor I’d figure out what you want and then get the muzzle device pinned/welded. I own a Saker 556k and i wanted a dedicated 556 can. Hindsight a multi caliber can is just as cool as a dedicated can if I could go back and do multi cal I would but oh well gives me a reason to buy another. You just missed out on silencerco bogo deal. Regardless what brand you choose there is a pretty good thread going on about muzzle devices. I recommend a break over a flash hider.

As for rifle if you want quality and reliability Aero, BCM, DD, Seekins, Geissele, Barnes Precision Machine, all have great rifles well under 2k except maybe Geissele. Higher end price you have KAC, LWRC, JP etc.

Suppressors - Brakes make Suppressors more/less/same effective?

Talking about gas guns primarily, but assume it extends to other types. My brain thinks of different reasons why one would be better than the other. Also, does one type of mount make a suppressor more effective — KeyMo, ASR, Q Cherry Bomb, etc? Or is direct-thread more effective or...

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[NY700]

Since it needs to be pinned and welded, and that is going to create a commitment, what is the most universal QT pattern or thread pattern to make sure you don’t have to send it off every time you change direction of silencers?