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Changing rimfire ammo, what happens...

jbell

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    So this question pop up often: "Should I clean between ammo changes, or if I don't what will happen?" Which is followed by a few different thoughts on what you should do and why. I was shooting yesterday and decided to record what I do and what I almost always see (I only say almost because I try not to speak in absolutes, but this is what happens every time). I have been lucky enough to own many very accurate 22lr and play around a LOT with ammo and accuracy, the effects of changing ammo is almost exactly the same every time with many different barres and ammo.

    To start off I want to say the reason I don't clean is one because I try my best to minimize cleaning any bore a much as possible to minimize the chance for damage to the bore, crown, or bedding. Yes I know a quality bore guide helps, but honestly the chance is still there. Take each rifle on a case by case basis, like a high carbon barrel should be cleaned more often than a stainless (yes even rimfires shooting waxed bullets, I have seen corrosion develop in some rimfire carbon steel barrels).

    Second, because I had rather be shooting than cleaning.

    Third because in my experience depending on how thoroughly you clean it can take more shots to season from cleaning than from just shooting.

    So getting into it. Yesterday morning I had the good fortune of light winds that were very predictable for about 30 minutes. I shot 30 rounds of Eley Match through my custom Anschutz 1827B which was seasoned for the ELey, accuracy was good as expected. I ran out of Eley and changed over to Center X, also a solid performer in my rifle. The winds were still light so I decided to record the shots and start this thread. The rounds are numbered on the target from the Center X and then I shot 30 rounds of Center X, but the wind had picked up by the time I got back from marking the target for the order of rounds fired during the seasoning process and the groups reflect it (pretty horizontal in nature and larger than normal, but the point still comes across).

    What I normally see when changing ammo is excellent accuracy for 4-6 rounds, then it opens bad for 5-7 rounds, and then settles down again. So normally 10 to 15 rounds are required before you will see the accuracy that will be normal for that ammo. I wish I had a few other brands with me and also cleaning equipment as I could record what happens when seasoning a clean bore, maybe Ill do that next time.

    See target below:

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    I've seen similar results as well. I usually pull a clean bore snake once or twice, shoot 15-20 rounds and go from there. Thanks for taking the time and actually paying attention.
     
    Tucker,
    This happens no matter what ammo & no matter the order being shot. Such as Eley to Center X, or CX to Eley, or R50 to Midas +, whatever it is I always see very similar results.

    The only thing is if you do a lot of switching ammo with very low round count between changes (like 50 rounds or less) I find there comes a point where accuracy suffers and you either have to clean or shoot a lot of one brand of ammo.
     
    Are those shot at 50 or 100 yards, either way some fine shooting and helps explain some of the shift I was seeing when testing the Tacsol barrel I last bought.

    I may need to go back and start over given your results and observation and revisit R50 and R100 compared to the SK Standard Plus I settled on.

    Thanks for sharing your observation.
     
    It occurrs in rimfire “match ammo” because of the different bullet lube used.

    Very interesting as I have always noticed this and always felt it may be due to a different primer formulation as that seems to be the secret sauce from what I understand.

    I will be really paying more attention to this during the next weekend as I am finally trying out some SK Rifle Match in my Annie against the Wolf MT Extra that I usually use for practice
     
    The results jbell has shown echo what I've seen everytime. The first 5 shot group with the new ammo is usually fantastic followed by a less than stellar group. After that, things will tighten back up. Some of my rifles take a little longer to tighten up than others though.

    This has been my experience also. If it happens between SK, Wolf and CenterX I don't see it. With these, the similar lube seems to preclude it. When going from no lube or wax lube (.22mag) it shows up. I usually use Center-X exclusively in my really accurate .22s. The others get Mini-Mag, Remington Golden Bullet and sometimes CCI SV. I occasionally shoot Center-X in a 9422 or a Weatherby MKXXII and the first grp. anomaly is there. A few months ago I tried the SV in a 52C Sporter by Miroku. The first grp. with the SV and I was giddy. I figured I was going to save a fortune. By the third grp. it was evident we were going back to Center-X.

    It would be interesting to chrono. the before, changeover and after grps. The SDs might reveal something.
     
    I wish I had a few other brands with me and also cleaning equipment as I could record what happens when seasoning a clean bore, maybe Ill do that next time.
    Awesome post thanks for the data. Would be interested to see your results on this as well. When you clean your bore are you dry patching it or using solvents and brushes/patches?
     
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    Awesome post thanks for the data. Would be interested to see your results on this as well. When you clean your bore are you dry patching it or using solvents and brushes/patches?


    For rimfire cleaning I usually only use Kroil on a VFG felt, Ill just soak the bore in Kroil and then hit the throat with a few back and forth passes to remove any excessive build up and then dry the bore completely with felts. But I only clean when accuracy goes to crap and I cant get it back, I have gone well over 1000 rounds in some barrels before cleaning. Oh if the accuracy isn't restored Ill brush a little, but only if I have to...
     
    I think this is a great thread on not only the changes, but what else happens.

    I also like the post above that mentions chronographing the rounds as well to see if the velocity on the first group after changing brands has a different velocity than the others.

    Agreed, I will be taking the chrono out the next. Ill also order some different brands of ammo and bring my cleaning kit to the range and re-do the test.