Chinese Fly Safe System Off

[jinxx4ever]

Just saw it's being reported the Chinese made drones with the Fly Safe System that incapacitates a drone when entering a no fly zone has now been shut off. It will be up to the operator to know where he's flying it. So now Chinese made drones (is there any others? ) will be able to fly unimpeded over airports , stadiums, and more importantly, guess where? Over the White House and even more importantly over the inauguration Monday. What's the odds of this happening right now? The system has been in place since 2015. A drone collided with a Canadian super scooper fighting fires just a few days ago. Thoughts?

 

[Redlion]

You seemed surprised by this? Odd. Do you have a link by chance?

 

[Californio]

Bring back the 10ga goose gun

 

[doubloon]

Thoughts

DJI’s GEO System Is An Education - Not Enforcement - Tool

Earlier this week, we announced an update to the DJI geofencing system (GEO) . We set the record straight here.

viewpoints.dji.com

DJI FlySafe Unlocking: Steps to Remove No Fly Zone Restrictions - joindrone

Do you want to fly your DJI drone in a restricted area, but DJI FlySafe won't let you? Read on to find out how to fix that.

joindrone.com

 

[Blue Sky Country]

Davide Pedersoli & C. 'Wyatt Earp' 12-gauge coach gun says: "Bring it"...

Best part about an ol' side by side? As the pieces of the intruding bugger fall like sleet all around, you can open the breech, blow the smoke out of 'em, close it back up, let it rest in the crook of your arm, and continue on with your speech, conversation, etc, like nothing happened. "Now, where was I... Right, we are proud to announce the second successful year of......."

 

[BytorJr]

Bring back the 10ga goose gun

Time to start reloading 12 ga 3" (or if you're 'one of those', a 3.5") with some TSS. If a 0.410 can take turkey at an ungodly distance, that 12ga with TSS should take your chinese drones out.

 

[Matches Malone]

they’ve always have been to varying degrees.

The big company is DJI. Anyone that’s used one for recreation , pictures, filming, roofing or whatever has had access to this stuff for awhile.

i don’t think I’ve ever had geofencing on a DJI mavic restrict anything I was doing with the exception of setting up close to a international airport. Even the small town local airports and class c airspace was never really a problem.

Like a gun, it’s about the intention and intellect of the user. If you don’t trust your 5 year old to conceal carry while in town, then you shouldn’t trust that same 5 year old with a flying around unsupervised.

All the same, there are evil people and there are dumb people…you have to watch out for both.


As far as DJI being a Chinese company…same argument about Holosun…what are you going to do when your fellow Americans chose to keep funding them? I don’t see anyone buying them out or competing with them. They own that market.

 

[jinxx4ever]

You seemed surprised by this? Odd. Do you have a link by chance?

was listening to a podcast

 

[lonegunman762x51]

Marlin made the tool for this problem, the old 10ga bolt action goose wacker. 3 shot magazine of drone blasting joy. I bet you could sign up 1000 volunteers for every major event.

 

[doubloon]

was listening to a podcast

Which podcast? Which episode?

This site is considered to be somewhat factual and unbiased but may have dropped the ball this time.

China’s Top Drone Maker Removes Security Features at a Very Weird Time

DJI has ended enforced no-fly zones in U.S. markets.

foreignpolicy.com

They're talking about DJI changes to geofencing.

DJI Updates GEO System in U.S. Consumer & Enterprise Drones

DJI updates its geofencing system in the U.S. to align with FAA regulations, enhancing drone operator control and safety. Learn about the latest changes and their impact.

viewpoints.dji.com

With this update, DJI’s Fly and Pilot flight app operators will see prior DJI geofencing datasets replaced to display official Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) data. Areas previously defined as Restricted Zones (also known as No-Fly Zones) will be displayed as Enhanced Warning Zones, aligning with the FAA's designated areas. In these zones, in-app alerts will notify operators flying near FAA designated controlled airspace, placing control back in the hands of the drone operators, in line with regulatory principles of the operator bearing final responsibility.

 

[anon]

It is DJI UltraLite 249 debris that is shown in the LA news station's website story about the firefighting plane collision. The meathead flying that thing from the ground has a very different risk to life and limb than the crew of that AC that was saving people and property.

 

[akmike47]

Because the White House and inauguration won’t/doesn’t have anti drone measures in place. The drone hitting the water bomber has nothing to do with this some full retard was trying to film the fires.

 

[mikeb127]

Just saw it's being reported the Chinese made drones with the Fly Safe System that incapacitates a drone when entering a no fly zone has now been shut off. It will be up to the operator to know where he's flying it. So now Chinese made drones (is there any others? ) will be able to fly unimpeded over airports , stadiums, and more importantly, guess where? Over the White House and even more importantly over the inauguration Monday. What's the odds of this happening right now? The system has been in place since 2015. A drone collided with a Canadian super scooper fighting fires just a few days ago. Thoughts?

This system is really just to stop asshats doing dumb things with commercial drones (just DJI uses this system AFAIK). Flying the mini into fire fighting aircraft being case in point. If someone wants to fuck something up with a drone it won't be a DJI, it will be an FPV running an FC with Betaflight/Inav/Ardupilot (or some fork thereof).

So yeah, all it really means is that asshats can do asshat things without DJI stopping them......

 

[pmclaine]

I buy shit and I got notice China is shutting us off from supply of some strategic minerals, antimony (fire proofing, alloys), germanium (tech, silicon wafers) were two of the minerals I recall.

I'm sure we have secondary supplies, China may not even be primary, but just seems like good reason we should be digging holes in WY and Nevada.

 

[HPIguy]

Our DJI Mini 4 Pro has the geofencing feature. Previously, without hacking the system (thus voiding your warranty and/or replacement coverage), I am unaware of any way to turn that off or remove it. Not that I'd want to anyway, as it's one less thing me the pilot has to worry about. I still check apps for TFRs and the like before flying, and drone maps for other UAVs in the area before flight anyway. This seems like a really bad idea to me.

 

[Green461]

This is awesome. There were so many places off limits and had to apply on the app for permission, so dumb., like cant even take off in my brothers front yard because a small airport a few miles away.. I have the mini pro 4 and had all that fencing crap on.... hopefully the update shuts it off, im capable of figuring out myself where i can and cant go. It was BS i cant fly 5ft off the ground because some small time airport is a few miles away.

 

[P-Squared]

I buy shit and I got notice China is shutting us off from supply of some strategic minerals, antimony (fire proofing, alloys), germanium (tech, silicon wafers) were two of the minerals I recall.

I'm sure we have secondary supplies, China may not even be primary, but just seems like good reason we should be digging first in WY and Nevada.

Don't forget Orangeland... err Greenland.

 

[doubloon]

Our DJI Mini 4 Pro has the geofencing feature. Previously, without hacking the system (thus voiding your warranty and/or replacement coverage), I am unaware of any way to turn that off or remove it. Not that I'd want to anyway, as it's one less thing me the pilot has to worry about. I still check apps for TFRs and the like before flying, and drone maps for other UAVs in the area before flight anyway. This seems like a really bad idea to me.

Things always seem like a bad idea when people are not informed or misinformed.

Throw owning a gun without an active safety on this bonfire of a thread.

Please Mr. .Gov, step in to protect me from myself.

DJI FlySafe Unlocking: Steps to Remove No Fly Zone Restrictions - joindrone

Do you want to fly your DJI drone in a restricted area, but DJI FlySafe won't let you? Read on to find out how to fix that.

joindrone.com

 

[HPIguy]

Things always seem like a bad idea when people are not informed or misinformed.

Throw owning a gun without an active safety on this bonfire of a thread.

Please Mr. .Gov, step in to protect me from myself.

DJI FlySafe Unlocking: Steps to Remove No Fly Zone Restrictions - joindrone

Do you want to fly your DJI drone in a restricted area, but DJI FlySafe won't let you? Read on to find out how to fix that.

joindrone.com

I get your argument, but the big difference is that the vast majority of gun purchasers aren't going to go out and do harm with those guns.

I stand by my statements about a large majority of drone owners however. Most don't care to know or learn how to fly, or the rules and regulations regarding them. They just see drone footage on youtube, and think it's cool.

I hate government involvement, rules and regulations as much as the next guy, but what's your solution otherwise? Personally, I'd like to see those that don't follow the rules heavily fined, drone confiscated, etc. Since they chose to take no personal responsibility before flying to begin with.

Flying for fun in open airspace is all fine and good, but when it hampers efforts to put out wildfires or the like, there should be consequences.

 

[rlsmith1]

I mean I bought an Autel because it didn't have this stuff in the first place

 

[doubloon]

vast majority of gun purchasers aren't going to go out and do intentional harm with those guns

And neither will drone purchasers, automobile purchasers, yada yada, blah blah ...

P-Lenty examples out there of gun acquisitioners doing harm.

Idiot proofing features are defeated every day by idiots. Education and licensing is more effective but an entirely different can of worms.

 

[HPIguy]

And neither will drone purchasers, automobile purchasers, yada yada, blah blah ...

P-Lenty examples out there of gun acquisitioners doing harm.

Idiot proofing features are defeated every day by idiots. Education and licensing is more effective but an entirely different can of worms.

True. As the old saying goes;

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning."

I'm not sure what the solution is. As I always tell people, I'm smart enough to point out the problem, but I'm not sure I can solve it.

 

[doubloon]

I'm not sure what the solution is

Me either.

I'll always rattle my saber in favor of less government but I can't deny I don't occasionally feel an impulse for somebody to swoop in and clean up aisle thirteen with fire and brimstone. Probably some of that Irish catholic upbringing.

 

[Matches Malone]

im capable of figuring out myself where i can and cant go.

sounds like you’re already trying to fly it without knowing…

You’re really only going to learn if you study to take the pilots exam for it. A lot of it is unnecessary…like navigation, weather theory, and sectionals. I was already familiar so it was no big deal for me, but it’s one of those things that won’t help you play with the drone.

However, how to identify airspace’s, airport operations, how to communicate with the controller, notams, and the actual laws for small UAVs is specified and gone over.

Otherwise, you don’t know what you don’t know, and that’s kind of the problem.

 

[_Windrider_]

The problem is that it is possible to get permission to fly in no drone zones but this option made it impossible. I’ve ran into it multiple times when doing land surveys.

 

[anon]

The dipshit that hit the firefighting aircraft is no different than someone shooting someone else because they had no idea what was beyond their target. The crew should get the opportunity to smack the shit out of that drone pilot. Stupid should hurt, life threatening stupid should hurt real bad.

 

[Green461]

sounds like you’re already trying to fly it without knowing…

You’re really only going to learn if you study to take the pilots exam for it. A lot of it is unnecessary…like navigation, weather theory, and sectionals. I was already familiar so it was no big deal for me, but it’s one of those things that won’t help you play with the drone.

However, how to identify airspace’s, airport operations, how to communicate with the controller, notams, and the actual laws for small UAVs is specified and gone over.

Otherwise, you don’t know what you don’t know, and that’s kind of the problem.

Sounds like your comprehention is impared if thats what you got out of what I wrote.

No. I know exactly where can and cant go... I have 2 different apps that tell me. Its pretty simple and no need for fancy schooling and exams. Just read the FAA laws about drones and be aware of where you are..... its that simple. Its a drone not a 737. The restrictions in the software that dont even allow you to take off is dumb.
I was trying to fly over a truck in the driveway, 15ft up and it wouldnt let me even take off..... I dont see a point in contacting the local airport to tell them that. As they grow more and more popular the airport would be flooded with calls "Can I fly 6ft across my back yard?"...

 

[Milf Dots]

[...]As far as DJI being a Chinese company…same argument about Holosun…what are you going to do when your fellow Americans chose to keep funding them? I don’t see anyone buying them out or competing with them. They own that market.[/...]

Yes, DJI, Holosun a.k.a. Huanic, Olight, and others, are CCP Chinese companies. Just because some are traitriots who buy that junk doesn't mean we and others have to. Hopefully Trump will put a ban on import of OEM Chinese shooting, hunting, optics, drones related goods.

 

[Matches Malone]

Sounds like your comprehention is impared if thats what you got out of what I wrote.

No. I know exactly where can and cant go... I have 2 different apps that tell me. Its pretty simple and no need for fancy schooling and exams. Just read the FAA laws about drones and be aware of where you are..... its that simple. Its a drone not a 737. The restrictions in the software that dont even allow you to take off is dumb.
I was trying to fly over a truck in the driveway, 15ft up and it wouldnt let me even take off..... I dont see a point in contacting the local airport to tell them that. As they grow more and more popular the airport would be flooded with calls "Can I fly 6ft across my back yard?"...

The more you type the more I can tell you I’m not the impaired one.