Been interested in a few knives with cord wrapped handles... My question is do those handles work themselves loose after a while? Or are they just for aesthetics?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Been interested in a few knives with chord wrapped handles... My question is do those handles work themselves loose after a while? Or are they just for aesthetics? </div></div>
Depends on who tied the wrap and how good of a job they did.
I have a Tracker Dan Bloodshark and trainer that is absolutely rock solid. I tried to see if it I could move it by digging in with my fingernail on it...I broke my nail before it would shift.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Been interested in a few knives with chord wrapped handles... My question is do those handles work themselves loose after a while? Or are they just for aesthetics? </div></div>
Depends on who tied the wrap and how good of a job they did.
I have a Tracker Dan Bloodshark and trainer that is absolutely rock solid. I tried to see if it I could move it by digging in with my fingernail on it...I broke my nail before it would shift.
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I've been wondering the same thing actually and I think Jim D answered it.
I've been wondering the same thing actually and I think Jim D answered it.
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I keep an izula2 with a wrapped handle, and like it, a lot more than the micarta it came with. I have a tough time tieing it off and getting it to stay tight at the very end. If you soak them in water for a little while, it helps.
I keep an izula2 with a wrapped handle, and like it, a lot more than the micarta it came with. I have a tough time tieing it off and getting it to stay tight at the very end. If you soak them in water for a little while, it helps.
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I prefer to coat the handle with epoxy then wrap. Rock solid but removable if needed.
Scot
I prefer to coat the handle with epoxy then wrap. Rock solid but removable if needed.
Scot
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I'm not a pro at wrapping with 550 and this was my first knife that I ever did. Reason for doing this one is the handle was too small for me and had no grip. The cord has never moved or come loose. At the end of the wrapping I just melted the cord to itself. This is a working knife that gets thrown in my duty bag in a sheath so function trumps looks. It's a USGI Pilots Knife (older model of course)... simple, sharpened and durable.
I'm not a pro at wrapping with 550 and this was my first knife that I ever did. Reason for doing this one is the handle was too small for me and had no grip. The cord has never moved or come loose. At the end of the wrapping I just melted the cord to itself. This is a working knife that gets thrown in my duty bag in a sheath so function trumps looks. It's a USGI Pilots Knife (older model of course)... simple, sharpened and durable.
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The concept's seemed to work for Strider Knives, as well as a stack of other makers. Aside from the epoxy mentioned above, you can do a standard wrap, & then for the last few turns around the handle, put some Shoe-Goop or similar under the cord/final knots. Thus it'll stay in place, but if you really need the cord for something else, it'll come free with some coaxing.
When in doubt on knots, wraps, & similar things, I always just do some lock stitching with a needle & thread, by hand. Serves the same purpose. And when the mood strikes, I'll us silicone & stitching together, on the bitter end(s).
The concept's seemed to work for Strider Knives, as well as a stack of other makers. Aside from the epoxy mentioned above, you can do a standard wrap, & then for the last few turns around the handle, put some Shoe-Goop or similar under the cord/final knots. Thus it'll stay in place, but if you really need the cord for something else, it'll come free with some coaxing.
When in doubt on knots, wraps, & similar things, I always just do some lock stitching with a needle & thread, by hand. Serves the same purpose. And when the mood strikes, I'll us silicone & stitching together, on the bitter end(s).
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jean Lafitte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When in doubt on knots, wraps, & similar things, I always just do some lock stitching with a needle & thread, by hand. </div></div>
Hey is lock stiching just putting some stiches through the cord to hold it in place (to itself) or is that a real specific type of stich or something?
This caught my interest and just wanted to know what it is.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jean Lafitte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When in doubt on knots, wraps, & similar things, I always just do some lock stitching with a needle & thread, by hand. </div></div>
Hey is lock stiching just putting some stiches through the cord to hold it in place (to itself) or is that a real specific type of stich or something?
This caught my interest and just wanted to know what it is.
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In this instance I'm not referring to anything fancy. IE; I'm using the term loosely.
Your interpretation of it being just some stitching to secure things is correct in this application. Just use some strong, colored thread, stuff that's tough to break by hand [without it slicing into your hands], & you should be good.
In a pinch, braided fishing line [not monofilament] will work.
In this instance I'm not referring to anything fancy. IE; I'm using the term loosely.
Your interpretation of it being just some stitching to secure things is correct in this application. Just use some strong, colored thread, stuff that's tough to break by hand [without it slicing into your hands], & you should be good.
In a pinch, braided fishing line [not monofilament] will work.
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THe Japanese have been wrapping wood with silk and cotton chord for 1600 years.
Works well! If you tie it correctly.
I have a guy putting new silk on my Katana and Wak, he's the #1 wrapper in the US, good guy...and he TIES the ends together and tucks them. Never figure out how he does it but he's good.
THe Japanese have been wrapping wood with silk and cotton chord for 1600 years.
Works well! If you tie it correctly.
I have a guy putting new silk on my Katana and Wak, he's the #1 wrapper in the US, good guy...and he TIES the ends together and tucks them. Never figure out how he does it but he's good.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Been interested in a few knives with chord wrapped handles... My question is do those handles work themselves loose after a while? Or are they just for aesthetics? </div></div>
They can stay on pretty well...
HOWEVER they are nowhere near as durable as micarta or even leather. Also the 550 cord will hold water against the steel until it dries. A proper synthetic handle is epoxied on then pinned and should never allow water to touch the tang.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Been interested in a few knives with chord wrapped handles... My question is do those handles work themselves loose after a while? Or are they just for aesthetics? </div></div>
They can stay on pretty well...
HOWEVER they are nowhere near as durable as micarta or even leather. Also the 550 cord will hold water against the steel until it dries. A proper synthetic handle is epoxied on then pinned and should never allow water to touch the tang.
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Not sure about "chord", but I've wrapped a couple tantos with <span style="font-style: italic">cord</span>.
I tie and tuck the ends, smearing them with epoxy before tying so the knot will never loosen and they don't try to pop out from under the wrap. The coarser the cord and larger the knots or overlaps, the better purchase they offer. My tantos wouldn't slip in my hand under any circumstances I could subject them to...blood, sweat, water, even oil didn't seem to compromise the grip, so I'd say properly done cord is a functional rather than aesthetic handle material.
Not sure about "chord", but I've wrapped a couple tantos with <span style="font-style: italic">cord</span>.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jean Lafitte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In this instance I'm not referring to anything fancy. IE; I'm using the term loosely.
Your interpretation of it being just some stitching to secure things is correct in this application. Just use some strong, colored thread, stuff that's tough to break by hand [without it slicing into your hands], & you should be good.
In a pinch, braided fishing line [not monofilament] will work. </div></div>
Ahh ok. I like to sew with waxed dental floss on my gear - stuff is darn near bulletproof as far as thread is concerned
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jean Lafitte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In this instance I'm not referring to anything fancy. IE; I'm using the term loosely.
Your interpretation of it being just some stitching to secure things is correct in this application. Just use some strong, colored thread, stuff that's tough to break by hand [without it slicing into your hands], & you should be good.
In a pinch, braided fishing line [not monofilament] will work. </div></div>
Ahh ok. I like to sew with waxed dental floss on my gear - stuff is darn near bulletproof as far as thread is concerned
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Here are some Strider knock-offs (reported to Dwaine) I picked up in the Himalayas (been re-corded with 3&4 layers)
Just get some mil spec 550 paracord & lay it down tight with long nose pliers if necessary
Here are some Strider knock-offs (reported to Dwaine) I picked up in the Himalayas (been re-corded with 3&4 layers)
Just get some mil spec 550 paracord & lay it down tight with long nose pliers if necessary
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That shovel belongs to your wife...right!!Or is it a "don't ask/don't tell thing???
That shovel belongs to your wife...right!!Or is it a "don't ask/don't tell thing???
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lol, Thats a legal fighting ax I keep in the car when not in use elsewhere the field. $15 Cold Steel - good blade :
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=187643
Also good for storing / practicing paracord wrapping
lol, Thats a legal fighting ax I keep in the car when not in use elsewhere the field. $15 Cold Steel - good blade :
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=187643
Also good for storing / practicing paracord wrapping
