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The CCP is fighting a very effective cold war against us Americans and the rest of the free world- yet we still have supposed patriots in the gun community defending the purchase of gun related products from CCP/Chinese OEM optics and lights manufacturers like holosun, swampfox, olight, phenix, reportedly arken, and more... That's much worse than stuff just made in Chynuh.
Saving a few bucks essentially turns off the logic circuit with people like the above.
Saving a few bucks essentially turns off the logic circuit with people like the above.
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30 years they've been at it.
If not longer. I used to try and be gracious and accepting of all people in the US. But basically Chinese: I assume they are a spy.
If not longer. I used to try and be gracious and accepting of all people in the US. But basically Chinese: I assume they are a spy.
Everybody wants everybody else to buy American, but they shop at Walmart.
As a start I just want the shooting community to stop buying products of OEM Chinese companies like those I listed in my post above. That'd be a great start to preventing the CCP from stealing the gun optics markets. Just because the CCP has stolen the consumer electronics market doesn't mean we shouldn't stop them from stealing our gun optics industry.
That the CCP controls lots of industries is a reason to not buy CCP goods- it's not a justification to buy even more CCP products like some supposed patriots say.
...and buy Volvos, iphones/imacs/ipads, ring doorbells, Barbie dolls, Ray Bans, Radio Flyer...
The last time I had this conversation, the person basically said, "Gun stuff bad, other stuff...not so bad."
One could argue gun stuff is the ONLY thing we should buy from them, if anything at all.
I blame Walmart and other greedy corporations as much as the consumer, maybe more, for China's rise. They've conditioned the American consumer to expect $20 sneakers, $100 TV's, $50 furniture, etc. All so the shareholders can get a few more bucks and the CEO can enjoy his $20 million a year salary.
Was a great interview, listened to it . Next book on my reading list after I finish
JFK and the Unspeakable.
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The last time I had this conversation, the so called patriots basically said, "The CCP already controls a bunch of our industries, so let them take more markets from us."
Also the last time I had this conversation, the so called patriots basically said, "Because we own many things made in China, it's wrong and bad to want to slow that trend, to alter the course, to even care".
Also the last time I had this conversation, the so called patriots basically said, "Because we own many things made in China, it's wrong and bad to want to slow that trend, to alter the course, to even care".
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Cause posting with your 14th(?) version of the iphone is patriotic.
I was going to buy a scope from Gratfuldoug then..
- Athlon Neos scopes – Made in China to Athlon specifications.
- Athlon Optics Talos and Talos BTR scopes – Made in China to Athlon specifications.
- Athlon Optics Argos BTR and Helos BTR scopes – Made in China to Athlon specifications.
- Athlon Midas BTR, Midas HMR, Midas TAC scopes – Also made in China to Athlon’s specific specifications.
- Athlon Ares BTR and Ares ETR scopes – Made in China as well to Athlon’s specifications.
- Athlon Cronus BTR scope – This model is currently Athlon’s top of the line scope and is made in Japan to Athlon specifications.
In the interest of spreading the word.
Japan=Good. (I know some of our older members may struggle with this one--no judgement on my side)
China = Bad (Aka ChiComs)
Tawain = Good. (Aka "Real China Government" FUCK YOU WINNE THE POO!)
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But he sells so much more than Athlon, buy a different product that aligns with your ideas
Exactly. Doug is Family and can guide you through which products will conform to your ideologies. Hate the Game - Don't Hate the Player.
VooDoo
I was tired when I wrote that. Of course.
Anywy Doug was on vacation, I spoke with Neil/Neal? who was very helpful as well.
Not that long ago Japan was treated the same for exact same reason folks felt threatened that a foreign economy is taking over ,google FIRE economy
The enemy sits at Wall street , a financialised economy that enables lots of folks to get rich without producing anything of value and always needs a new hosts to extract wealth from ,China made them very rich , most of new billionaires are not Henry Fords actually making shit but folks from the financial industry as my old man would say skilled only at ''turning bread to shit' greatest skill seems to be proximity to FED print machine kinda like Nancy Pelosi Midas touch at investing.
https://www.businessinsider.in/stoc...erica/slidelist/21438412.cms#slideid=21438418
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They are like the Muslims, they religion comes first.
For the Chinkos their country's interests comes first.
Counterpoint: Japan is a republic without the intent to destroy the US or bring world wide communism. Yeah I remember though.
I'm not scared of Japan or India.
Those Chicoms are some Malicious sobs though.
Lol. Worked with a guy who refused to consider Toyota, Honda, Lexus etc because his father served in the Pacific during WWII. He drove Mecedes.
Tbh the Japanese were the toughest foe we faced.
They asked for no quarter
And we gave none.
Europe got the glory. I am the grandson of 2 pacific vets. There was no love for Japan in my family. I completely understand
Respectfully, why do you say that? With their navy and air force destroyed we could have bottled them up and starved them. The bomb was just quicker.
Germany was a stones throw from nukes and had rockets to deliver them......not on us at the time but if they hadnt been stopped it wouldnt have been long. Why did we beat the Russians in the space race? Because von Braun and the other top 200 German scientists defected to us ....
As am I. SS Santa Fe. IWO, Rescue of Big Ben, ect... my pop would not ever buy anything Japanese, I don't care what it was or how much he needed it, he'd do without it.
It’s either the Japs or the Chicoms and I’d go with the Jap anytime.
They definitely build better cars...and just about anything they reverse engineer.
Japanese have some innovation skills.
China not so much.
Ours have been beat out of industry.
We are really going to be at the mercy of some “Angel of Hadley”
Angel of Hadley - Wikipedia
Japanese have some innovation skills.
China not so much.
Ours have been beat out of industry.
We are really going to be at the mercy of some “Angel of Hadley”
Angel of Hadley - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Everything I've read of Japanese business models says they are as ruthless in the boardroom as they were on the battlefield. IMO their innovative skills are mostly geared towards improving whatever they think they can make money with. And they can improve the crap about of just about anything.
That's the issue. Their Navy was better. They had a modern carrier force 2 years ahead of ours (Until it sunk) 2 years in, they knew they were losing and kept fighting (to the death) Their troops were beyond fanatical. And while Hitler was personally directing his generals, theirs adapted to our island hopping strategy. Their goal was to bleed us until we couldn't take it any more, which is how you defeat the US.
Soldiers that fight to the death Trump a LOT of technology. They just didn't surrender. Ever. They targeted medics, they kamikaze ships, anything to drag things on. they even got civilians committing suicide on Saipan because of the fear of surrender to america.
They got 2 nukes and still a faction revolted to prevent surrender.
Also, you say Europe got all the glory, but do you know the most famous photo from the war? In fact one of ghe more well known photos of all time?
True, they were more fanatical, but as you said, they knew they couldnt win. Had we not gotten into the European theatre when we did, the Germans could have solidified Europe and bought thet ime to reduce all of Britan to rubble, while finishing the nukes and rockets. Then, they could have beaten us.
Sometimes there isn't a good alternative. Look at the cost of an American made dumbbell....prohibitively expensive.
However, much can be done to reduce the amount of Chinese goods purchased. Just bought a few flammable cabinets for work and made sure it was American made.
Also, American made sometimes isn't good quality.
Communists, willing to sell you the rifle, scope and ammunition you're going to use to shoot them in the face. At discount prices!
But we beat the Germans, twice, because of our industrial might. Our greatest weapon, one we no longer have. Covid gave us a glimpse of what would happen in a war with China. I think in six-eight months the people in this country would be too busy fighting with each other to worry about them.
Did we beat the Germans the second time or only help the Russians finish the job?
Patton had a great idea but was ahead of the times with his thinking.
Patton had a great idea but was ahead of the times with his thinking.
Japan used to build better cars , at present looks like the Japanese overslept the whole electric trend and will likely loose market share in near future.
Chicoms made more progress in building cars in past 3 years than rest of the world did in a decade, 2023 model Chines cars eat most Euro or US cars for breakfast . Even Tesla that had a considerable advantage over the competition is now in many ways inferior to Chinese BYD that was in 2020 a joke of a car manufacturer with maybe 200k total cars sold that year .
Chicoms currently also make most efficient diesel truck engines Weichai Power's WP13H went past 51% thermal efficiency which is about 10% more efficient than what is being sold by US and Euro manufacturers.
Chinese are going to eat our breakfast in no time, expect tariffs on all chinese cars soon as otherwise many domestic manufacturers both in Europe and US are facing wipeout .
Who supplied the Russians? And who bombed the German industry day and night. Yea it wasn’t the Russians. They lost millions cuz foolish tactics. I’m not downplaying their contribution, it was huge. But all the allied forces played a part
Until they wised up and took a lesson from the American companies, that they could make more money if they didn't.
They may lose the EV market share in the near future, but will no doubt sell all the ICE models they can make (or are allowed to sell) especially if the US companies commit suicided with EV madness.
That's one of the common but absurd deflections/justifications. The fact is China will never invade us, so Americans will never have the chance to shoot them.
Hope you are correct about this, Twit-video showing a long line of mostly young adult male PRC in line waiting too cross over.
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