Class 3? Didn't know where else to post this.

[Aer454]

I always thought you had to have a Class 3 license to buy a class 3 weapon (i.e. full auto). But a friend said you can buy a full-auto from a private party legally without a class 3 license? He said a friend of his purchased a couple from a gun show from a private party.

Is the license more for buying from venders or being in business, selling such weapons? I'm confused. Clarification please?

 

[sjohnny]

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It's not a "Class 3 License" that you need in order to purchase an NFA item. You need to submit a form and a fee ($200 or $5) in order to receive a stamp from the BATFE saying that you can purchase that particular item and have the registration of it transferred to you. A Class 3 License is (I believe) required to be an FFL that deals in NFA items.

If your friend went to an individual and purchased a machine gun or other NFA item without having gone through the process of sending in forms, money and supporting documentation and waiting on the BATFE to approve him then he may be entitled to a free vacation at the federal pokey.

 

[Aer454]

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Interesting. I'm not sure if he went through the process or not, just know that he bought it from a gun show. So legally, you CAN purchase an NFA item, just have to go through a bunch of paperwork and fees? Sweet deal!

 

[9H_Cracka]

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Technically your friend is correct, though it is clear at least one of you has no familiarity with the laws.

A Title 2 aka NFA firearm on a Form 4 can be sold from one resident of state X to another resident of state X (assuming it is a legal Title 2 aka NFA item in that state) without a dealer being involved in the transaction, but the Form 4 transfer via the BATFE must take place and the recipient granted his tax stamp to own said item before the transfer of possession can take place.

As far as cash and carry at a gun show for a full auto weapon, sure if you got a hankerin' for some bubba in the backside.

 

[sjohnny]

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I just reread my post and realized that it may have looked as though I was implying that one could only purchase an NFA item through a Class 3 dealer. That's not what I meant. You still have to do the paperwork and get BATFE approval though.

 

[Aer454]

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Thanks for the info _9H. No, I'm not fluent with the laws, otherwise I prob. wouldn't of needed to ask. =P And I'll skip on the bubba in the backside lol.

 

[Aer454]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sjohnny</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just reread my post and realized that it may have looked as though I was implying that one could only purchase an NFA item through a Class 3 dealer. That's not what I meant. You still have to do the paperwork and get BATFE approval though. </div></div>

I knew what you meant, no worries bro. =)

 

[Zak Smith]

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Is this where I get to say there's no such thing as Class 3 weapons (they are Title 2 aka NFA firearms); and that no individual can get a "Class 3 License"- only certain types of FFLs can get a Class 1, 2, or 3 SOT !

-z

 

[ORD]

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Let us not forget the $250,000 fine in addition to being "bubba'd in the backside". Technically, that would be a double-bubbaing!!

As for additional "legality" issues...fortunately for you, Washington state allows private ownership of both Class III firearms and suppressors. Check your county/local/etc. laws as some areas have additional regulations/requirements or outright bans on such items.

 

[Aer454]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is this where I get to say there's no such thing as Class 3 weapons (they are Title 2 aka NFA firearms); and that no individual can get a "Class 3 License"- only certain types of FFLs can get a Class 1, 2, or 3 SOT !

-z </div></div>

Indeed this is where you get to say that. ^.^ Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Aer454]

Re: Class 3? Didn't know where else to post this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let us not forget the $250,000 fine in addition to being "bubba'd in the backside". Technically, that would be a double-bubbaing!!

As for additional "legality" issues...fortunately for you, Washington state allows private ownership of both Class III firearms and suppressors. Check your county/local/etc. laws as some areas have additional regulations/requirements or outright bans on such items. </div></div>

Yeah I'll check w/ the county and city laws first.