What are you using for jags in your rifle? I have a Tipton set with jags and brushes and for whatever reason, I have issues with it being too tight and the patches get stuck. My 223 and 6.5 creed are the worst. Actually I am using one size smaller than is recommended and I still have issues just not as much. If I poke it off center it helps quite a bit but I feel like I shouldn’t always have to do that. I am using 1 1/8” square patches. Any recommendation on jags or anything else?
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Cleaning jag help!
- Thread starter smokinbobf4
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Supposed to spike off center? At least that is what I thought.
Edit-https://www.boretech.com/informationcenter/resources/side-spiking
Edit-https://www.boretech.com/informationcenter/resources/side-spiking
I use Montana extreme Parker hale style jags as well as their nylon brush’s.
You might want to google some Parker hale style jag cleaning , it’s a lot better than the tiptons and cleans a lot faster as well.
You might want to google some Parker hale style jag cleaning , it’s a lot better than the tiptons and cleans a lot faster as well.
I really like the Dewey Parker Hale Jags. I can't use them with twill patches though, only flannel. They won't hold a twill patch well.
Big fan of the parker hale style jags from Dewey. But heads up you do have to go through some trial and error to make sure you have a good fit. For example: the .224 jag that came with my 6.5 cleaning kit will either result in too loose a fit with the .223-.264 round patches, and too tight with square .30 cal patches. However using a .22 jag with square .30 cal patches is perfect.
I have looked at getting the Parker hale versions, just didn’t know if they were better. Thanks for all the advise.
You don't want patches to fit tight. They are just carrying solvent and lube into the barrel, the chemicals do the work. They are not supposed to abrade crap out of the barrel.
What kind of patches are you using? I bought a big bag of the twill patches. If I force one of those into the barrel it looks like a snake eating a goat. I use the Sinclair round patches - these 1 1/4 round for 30 and these 7/8 round for 22. I think I am using Dewey jags. Anybody want some twill patches?
In the past I used Parker Hale style wrap jags and wrapped them with paper towel. I used my table saw to cut a paper-towel roll into 4 slices.
What kind of patches are you using? I bought a big bag of the twill patches. If I force one of those into the barrel it looks like a snake eating a goat. I use the Sinclair round patches - these 1 1/4 round for 30 and these 7/8 round for 22. I think I am using Dewey jags. Anybody want some twill patches?
In the past I used Parker Hale style wrap jags and wrapped them with paper towel. I used my table saw to cut a paper-towel roll into 4 slices.
Agreed, just use a smaller patch...................not complicated.
Poke it towards one corner and then roll it up like a cigarette. I find rolling it makes them fit better than just sticking and shoving, shoving gets all sorts of high ridges etc, rolling keeps it even.
I use Pro Shot Jags and they have been excellent. I use 1.5" round. I find the square patches problematic
Ideally you need the patches for that particular jag. I like Dewey stuff and try to use their patches with tipped jags. You almost never find a full stock of Dewey stuff from any one vendor, they make so much different stuff I guess. It seems like everytime I see the stuff for sale there's a new piece I never saw before. Only one I know of that makes a high quality dedicated M2HB rod and their 7.62 AR chamber brushes and mops are pretty nice also.
I use their Parker Hale jags more and more, and if you use 'em right, wrapping the patch cornerwise around the jag, they work really, really well. Which is great because I have a lifetime supply of army 7.62 flannel patches and they work great with these, better than with thin patches.
Then I take the small Dewey adapter and I JB Weld a piece of nylon coated steel cable stripped back a bit on one end, and use the patch loops on these for pull throughs (I forget the size but there's only one size that has the same OD around the nylon as the adapter and that'll fit a .22 barrel just right). It's a cheap way of making a high quality DIY Otis type cleaning kit for pretty much all calibers. I use flannel with these too. and just cut to fit.
I use their Parker Hale jags more and more, and if you use 'em right, wrapping the patch cornerwise around the jag, they work really, really well. Which is great because I have a lifetime supply of army 7.62 flannel patches and they work great with these, better than with thin patches.
Then I take the small Dewey adapter and I JB Weld a piece of nylon coated steel cable stripped back a bit on one end, and use the patch loops on these for pull throughs (I forget the size but there's only one size that has the same OD around the nylon as the adapter and that'll fit a .22 barrel just right). It's a cheap way of making a high quality DIY Otis type cleaning kit for pretty much all calibers. I use flannel with these too. and just cut to fit.
You definitely speak the truth when you say the source of the patches does matter. I actually use Pro shot patches (1.5" round) with their jag and never had a problem. I used a different generic and the fit was definitely different. I actually also have an IVY rod with a fixed jag that they make. It is what I use at home.
I am just going to try the round ones. I know it is a weird problem but I have been cleaning guns for a long time and have never had this happen. Maybe the Tipton jags aren’t sized right either. I have also cut them down and it seems they are so small they don’t do much.
Put jag in a drill or lathe and use scotch brite or sand paper and turn it down a little till it fits how you want it too
I have some 1.25" patches that I've cut into 1/4.... still pretty tight but useable on the 223. 1/2 size is a NO GO.
Tried the 7/8 round... if you force it into the bore, you will have to beat it out. I'm still looking for the answer to this question as well.
Ideas on jags: apparently your jags plus your patches are too large for your barrel diameter. Use a smaller-diameter jag with your existing patches or use a thinner patch with your existing jag. If you like the jag, you could ask the jag manufacturer what patch to use. If you love your patches, find or make a smaller-diameter jag.
You might also evaluate Parker-Hale jags. Instead or piercing the patch, you wrap the patch around the jag. I used paper towel that I cut into inch-and-a-half wide rolls on my table saw. If I wanted a looser fit, tear the paper strip to make 2 turns instead of 3 or 4, soak it with solvent and go to town.
I'm pretty sure that my 30-caliber barrel is the same diameter ans your 30-caliber barrel. My jag-plus-patch combination is not difficult to push through the barrel. If your jag-plus-patch is hard to push through the barrel, the OD of jag plus patch is closer to the barrel ID. If you want to fix it, change something.
You might also evaluate Parker-Hale jags. Instead or piercing the patch, you wrap the patch around the jag. I used paper towel that I cut into inch-and-a-half wide rolls on my table saw. If I wanted a looser fit, tear the paper strip to make 2 turns instead of 3 or 4, soak it with solvent and go to town.
I'm pretty sure that my 30-caliber barrel is the same diameter ans your 30-caliber barrel. My jag-plus-patch combination is not difficult to push through the barrel. If your jag-plus-patch is hard to push through the barrel, the OD of jag plus patch is closer to the barrel ID. If you want to fix it, change something.
