Club loaner 22 suggestions

[natchomamma]

Our club needs a loaner 22 for our NRL22 type matches. We shoot out to 200 yards.

What would be a good loaner 22 for our matches? Vudoo is OUT. Its just too expensive to fund. I'm not a fan of the Ruger Rimfire based on personal expereince.

I guess that leaves either a Tikka or the CZ 457?

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

if its a loaner, i know it gets a bad wrap but look at the new offerings from Savage in the MDT stocks, the A22 and B22 precision. Not super cost prohibitive and they come with a chassis so they are definitely adjustable to the user especially if it will be someone different each match.

 

[b6graham]

tikka in a bravo or cz457 manners trainer

both will be more than capable

 

[Rthur]

We have a couple of CZ 455s slightly tuned/owned by the Match director.
Maybe a Tikka as well.

R

 

[natchomamma]

Im thinking something like the CZ 457 Varmint precision trainer camo 20.5" barrel?

 

[missed]

The Tikka.

I was disappointed in the last CZ457. It got sold.

 

[billmeek]

Something to consider when putting together a loaner rifle is that not everyone new to NRL22 is going to be willing to drop a grand on a rifle and optic. After competing for awhile they might change their minds and move up to a better rifle down the road. I'd have a lower-priced rifle available to shoot base class with a moderately priced scope. A decent shooter, but still a budget rifle. I have a few loaner rifles including Savage FV-SR (B22 and Mark II models) in bolt action and Savage A22 or Ruger 10/22 for semi-autos.

 

[natchomamma]

Something to consider when putting together a loaner rifle is that not everyone new to NRL22 is going to be willing to drop a grand on a rifle and optic. After competing for awhile they might change their minds and move up to a better rifle down the road. I'd have a lower-priced rifle available to shoot base class with a moderately priced scope. A decent shooter, but still a budget rifle. I have a few loaner rifles including Savage FV-SR (B22 and Mark II models) in bolt action and Savage A22 or Ruger 10/22 for semi-autos.

Of these you have, which has the best accuracy and "fewest fliers"?

 

[b6graham]

Of these you have, which has the best accuracy and "fewest fliers"?

depend show much you wanna spend finding a good lot of match ammo

 

[natdscott]

Start at a Savage Mark II, and end at a CZ 457.

That, or an older used Anschutz 64.

Feed any of them Wolf Match or SK Match, and I'd be really surprised if you don't get performance enough for NRL.

 

[billmeek]

Best accuracy is a toss up between the Mark II and B22 FVSR. I'd go with the B22 FV-SR even though it cost a little more because it has less mag issues. On the other hand, there are a lot more upgrade options (i.e. tons of stocks) available for the Mark II. The unmodified basic Ruger 10/22 isn't nearly as accurate as the FV-SRs. But it outshines them in upgrades available if you're willing to move to open class.

I'd still stick with the Savage B22 FV-SR as an inexpensive loaner.

 

[Pharmer909]

Beretta ARX 160 22lr lol. 18.1 inch barrel lol

 

[natchomamma]

Beretta ARX 160 22lr lol. 18.1 inch barrel lol

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Spray and pray!

 

[acudaowner]

10/22 ruger the price is pretty hard to beat at its price Its not hurting as much

 

[natdscott]

10/22 ruger the price is pretty hard to beat at its price Its not hurting as much

Is a stock 10/22 accurate enough for the sport?

 

[littlepod]

Is a stock 10/22 accurate enough for the sport?

You'll want some adjustability for the shooter for comb height. I think without proper comb hight, it's just impossible to shoot through a scope correctly.

Ruger Competition 10/22 street price is $650
CZ 457 in the At-One is like $650 as well.
Tikka T1X, buy an At-One for it for $200, puts it near the $700 price range.

 

[natchomamma]

Bergara just dropped a B-14R 22. Remington 700 compatible rifle on their facebook page.

 

[hlee]

Any regular club shooters willing to loan their gun for new shooters? There are 3 loaner vudoos at the 22 match I've been shooting. It's a lot easier to get them hooked, and turn a first time competitor into a repeat competitor, if they're borrowing top flight stuff.

 

[Eoddave27]

As an out of the box ready to go rifle I think a CZ 457 Pro Varmint is a good option. The thing the Tikka has going for it is that in stock form it would be better for women and kids because it’s lighter and would probably fit them better. I’m guessing you guys want to just keep it simple with a basic rifle and basic scope. Probably something like a SWFA 10x.

On another note if your club is like the ones I shoot at there are always guys there with extra rifles. I always bring a spare with spare ammo for anyone who wants to use it. I have brought guys a few times who used my loaner rifles. Maybe you should just petition the members and get a few volunteers for each match to bring a loaner rifle. I know I would be happy to do it as would the guys I shoot with. Chances are you will end up with a better equipped rifle and a few for new shooters to chose from. You also don’t need to worry about who keeps it or where the firearm is secured when not being used at a match.

 

[Jefe's Dope]

A Tikka for $425 is hard to beat. And it affords you a 10/22 of some sort. Which I think is great for beginners to have fun at their first match. One less discipline to master. Just aim and pull the trigger. They can focus on how to use and adjust the scope, dialing, parallax, hold over, etc. Then move them quickly to the more accurate bolt action.

 

[billmeek]

Is a stock 10/22 accurate enough for the sport?

They can be as for the most part you only are shooting 2MOA or above in NRL22. I've seen factory barrels that are good (not great) on a sub $200 10/22 rifle (new) and some that aren't. The thing about base class is that if you do get a poor barrel, you can't swap it out unless you move to open class. The inexpensive 10/22 rifles will need to be modified to allow the bolt auto-release (an easy fix) and preferably have at least some trigger work.

I would prefer that loaner rifles be bolt action for safety reasons. Getting new shooters to put on the safety and call "safe" when there's so many other things they are learning is a lot tougher than having them leave the bolt open during transitions.

 

[hlee]

My 10 year old learned to put the safe on our Kidd and call safe before moving during the first stage at his first match. If he can do it, and adult can.

 

[billmeek]

In this instance, we're talking about loaner rifles which are normally for people with no NRL22 experience. They are likely not familiar with the manual of arms for the rifle. For brand new shooters who are dealing with a lot of new things trying NRL22, I believe the bolt is easier to leave open. It's also takes less effort for a range officer to see if the bolt is open versus if the shooter failed to engage the safety.

 

[hlee]

My 10 year old learned to put the safe on our Kidd and call safe before moving during the first stage at his first match. If he can do it, and adult can.

In this instance, we're talking about loaner rifles which are normally for people with no NRL22 experience. They are likely not familiar with the manual of arms for the rifle. For brand new shooters who are dealing with a lot of new things trying NRL22, I believe the bolt is easier to leave open. It's also takes less effort for a range officer to see if the bolt is open versus if the shooter failed to engage the safety.

Perhaps, but it was the first time he had shot that rifle, and his first match. Then again, his score was still higher than a few adults that were there.

 

[billmeek]

Some people will get it (used the safety and calling "safe") and others won't. I personally found it easier initially to use the bolt. Now I'm set in my ways and caught myself calling "safe" the last time I used a bolt action.

Of course starting brand new shooters off with a bolt action being a better choice is just my opinion.

 

[Jefe's Dope]

Safety is a HUGE part of shooting matches and seems to me that it is far more important than any other. Forcing a new shooter to pay more attention to the 'safety' button and making sure the firearm is clear and verbally confirming that seems to be the recipe for a successful firearms experience and future owner.

I also adopted the habit of calling "clear" when finished with a stage. It's a verbal reminder to myself to double check my bolt is open and the chamber is clear. I've seen other more experienced shooters do the same and decide it's a good habit to have regardless of what firearm I'm handling.

 

[DaveM]

The Tikka is great right out of the box. Especially with the pistol grip and forend mods available for the factory stock.

I put one in a Krg Bravo and it’s a hammer with Eley Club.