Thrilled to say I started off my match season right with a 496 this past weekend. Now if I can only keep it up for the whole season and maybe I'll even try to make my wasy to Camp Perry this year.
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496 -- congrats! This has GOT to be a Camp Perry year if you can shoot that in the President's and NTI.
Keep an eye on your barrel life, and good luck!
496 -- congrats! This has GOT to be a Camp Perry year if you can shoot that in the President's and NTI.
Keep an eye on your barrel life, and good luck!
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I moved my CMP GSM matches up a month this year. I had the first match in May last year. It was more like a Vietnam Match, Mat or not, you laid in mud.
My first match this year will be the 2nd of June.
After doing that we got the warmest spring in years.
I moved my CMP GSM matches up a month this year. I had the first match in May last year. It was more like a Vietnam Match, Mat or not, you laid in mud.
My first match this year will be the 2nd of June.
After doing that we got the warmest spring in years.
Re: CMP match season has started
My first XTC for the year will be next month. I shot a reduced course 200 yard 800 agg and Vintage Military Rifle in January. I'll shoot another VMR this weekend and then I'm focusing on Service Rifle and Mid-Range for the next three months, there will be a match to shoot in almost every weekend..... I love this time of year.
My first XTC for the year will be next month. I shot a reduced course 200 yard 800 agg and Vintage Military Rifle in January. I'll shoot another VMR this weekend and then I'm focusing on Service Rifle and Mid-Range for the next three months, there will be a match to shoot in almost every weekend..... I love this time of year.
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Nice job on the 496 by the way, you've motivated me to dryfire tonight.
Nice job on the 496 by the way, you've motivated me to dryfire tonight.
Re: CMP match season has started
Been wanting to do this so I can get on the president's 100 evetually and wear the patch on my ACUs... problem is it's not my style of shooting (with jackets, gloves, slings, irons etc) so I haven't really done anything with it.
could I bring a GAP10? AR10 is a current type of service rifle right?
Been wanting to do this so I can get on the president's 100 evetually and wear the patch on my ACUs... problem is it's not my style of shooting (with jackets, gloves, slings, irons etc) so I haven't really done anything with it.
could I bring a GAP10? AR10 is a current type of service rifle right?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Been wanting to do this so I can get on the president's 100 evetually and wear the patch on my ACUs... problem is it's not my style of shooting (with jackets, gloves, slings, irons etc) so I haven't really done anything with it.
could I bring a GAP10? AR10 is a current type of service rifle right?
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Negative. You could shoot a GAP 10 in NRA matches under the "Match Rifle" category, but not for CMP matches. There is a particular configuration of AR10 that is allowed under NRA Service Rifle rules, but it doesn't really matter as the P100 is a CMP event. In reality, the GAP 10 is not the right tool for the job and you would not likely be competitive in this style of shooting with one. A NM AR15 A2 is what you need. WOA and CLE are the top builders in this sport, but an off-the-shelf RRA NM will shoot well enough for P100 scores if you can.
Good luck,
Erik
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Been wanting to do this so I can get on the president's 100 evetually and wear the patch on my ACUs... problem is it's not my style of shooting (with jackets, gloves, slings, irons etc) so I haven't really done anything with it.
could I bring a GAP10? AR10 is a current type of service rifle right?
Negative. You could shoot a GAP 10 in NRA matches under the "Match Rifle" category, but not for CMP matches. There is a particular configuration of AR10 that is allowed under NRA Service Rifle rules, but it doesn't really matter as the P100 is a CMP event. In reality, the GAP 10 is not the right tool for the job and you would not likely be competitive in this style of shooting with one. A NM AR15 A2 is what you need. WOA and CLE are the top builders in this sport, but an off-the-shelf RRA NM will shoot well enough for P100 scores if you can.
Good luck,
Erik
Re: CMP match season has started
Nice score bro. I am looking forward to some matches that everyone brings snivel gear to. Maybe that will give me a leg up
Nice score bro. I am looking forward to some matches that everyone brings snivel gear to. Maybe that will give me a leg up
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The m1 that's used in these matches.. Are they stock? Barrel
my friend does this with an AR15 but he has a pretty nice upper for it. Krueger barrel etc...
Also those jackets are expensive! He paid a good amount for them I think.
Is there like a fully stocked rifle and no jacket category? Lol
The m1 that's used in these matches.. Are they stock? Barrel
my friend does this with an AR15 but he has a pretty nice upper for it. Krueger barrel etc...
Also those jackets are expensive! He paid a good amount for them I think.
Is there like a fully stocked rifle and no jacket category? Lol
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496 isn't a good score, that's a phenomenal score. Shooting like that, you could be in contention for WINNING the P100 or NTI.
Best I've ever managed was a 481 full course.
496 isn't a good score, that's a phenomenal score. Shooting like that, you could be in contention for WINNING the P100 or NTI.
Best I've ever managed was a 481 full course.
Re: CMP match season has started
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The m1 that's used in these matches.. Are they stock? Barrel
my friend does this with an AR15 but he has a pretty nice upper for it. Krueger barrel etc...
Also those jackets are expensive! He paid a good amount for them I think.
Is there like a fully stocked rifle and no jacket category? Lol </div></div>
The rules for "Service Rifles" are basically that you can make internal modifications but can't really change the appearance. I am speaking in generalities here, check the CMP website for full rules. Common and allowed improvements made to service rifles are; better barrels(need to maintain same profile), better trigger(must be 4.5# or heavier), free float hand guards, adding weight, and changing size of front post and rear aperture. You can add a lens in the rear aperture and a lot of people do to correct for vision problems. That's about it. Can't use your sling for off-hand but it must be attached to the rifle. Most guys A2's are around 14-17#. Basically the result is that you wouldn't know there was anything different about someone's SR until you picked it up. Same rules apply to the M1's and M1A's. You don't see many of them at matches anymore because they really are not competitive. For this type of shooting, the AR15 A2 is superior in about every way.
The coats can indeed be expensive, but you get what you pay for. In position shooting with a sling, the difference in scores with a heavy coat can be huge. It's another thing you pretty much need to be competitive. Plenty of guys start out shooting withit a coat and get one later if money is tight. I started without one, but that didn't last long once i saw the difference it made. Its like any other shooting discipline though, nothing is cheap. My other hobby is running, so at least that one is cheap.
You could shoot almost any(with certain exceptions, again check the rules) rifle you want in NRA matches as a "Match Rifle" if you can shoot it from a sling. Again, the rifles used in this sport are pretty specialized and are set up to do one particular thing really well. As great as the rifles that we enjoy on this site are for other tasks, they just aren't right for Highpower. I could go out and run everyday in my work boots, but I wouldn't get very far and my feet sure would hurt when I was done.
If you are really interested in trying it out, just go to a local match. Call the match director before hand and tell him that you are a new guy and would like to try it out but don't have any gear. If the guys in your area are anything like the guys in mine, you'll have free ammo and your choice of rifles, coats, spotters, mats etc to try out for the day. I always bring extra stuff along to matches for just such occasions.
Good luck,
Erik
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The m1 that's used in these matches.. Are they stock? Barrel
my friend does this with an AR15 but he has a pretty nice upper for it. Krueger barrel etc...
Also those jackets are expensive! He paid a good amount for them I think.
Is there like a fully stocked rifle and no jacket category? Lol </div></div>
The rules for "Service Rifles" are basically that you can make internal modifications but can't really change the appearance. I am speaking in generalities here, check the CMP website for full rules. Common and allowed improvements made to service rifles are; better barrels(need to maintain same profile), better trigger(must be 4.5# or heavier), free float hand guards, adding weight, and changing size of front post and rear aperture. You can add a lens in the rear aperture and a lot of people do to correct for vision problems. That's about it. Can't use your sling for off-hand but it must be attached to the rifle. Most guys A2's are around 14-17#. Basically the result is that you wouldn't know there was anything different about someone's SR until you picked it up. Same rules apply to the M1's and M1A's. You don't see many of them at matches anymore because they really are not competitive. For this type of shooting, the AR15 A2 is superior in about every way.
The coats can indeed be expensive, but you get what you pay for. In position shooting with a sling, the difference in scores with a heavy coat can be huge. It's another thing you pretty much need to be competitive. Plenty of guys start out shooting withit a coat and get one later if money is tight. I started without one, but that didn't last long once i saw the difference it made. Its like any other shooting discipline though, nothing is cheap. My other hobby is running, so at least that one is cheap.
You could shoot almost any(with certain exceptions, again check the rules) rifle you want in NRA matches as a "Match Rifle" if you can shoot it from a sling. Again, the rifles used in this sport are pretty specialized and are set up to do one particular thing really well. As great as the rifles that we enjoy on this site are for other tasks, they just aren't right for Highpower. I could go out and run everyday in my work boots, but I wouldn't get very far and my feet sure would hurt when I was done.
If you are really interested in trying it out, just go to a local match. Call the match director before hand and tell him that you are a new guy and would like to try it out but don't have any gear. If the guys in your area are anything like the guys in mine, you'll have free ammo and your choice of rifles, coats, spotters, mats etc to try out for the day. I always bring extra stuff along to matches for just such occasions.
Good luck,
Erik
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