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I own a CNVD-T and several other mil & commercial thermals (Halo LR, China Skeet, M18 Recon, UTM, MTM) Have owned (Halo, LWTS, Reap 35 & 60, CRATOS, Pulsar Trail XP, Armasight)... Not nearly as many as Horta or some of the other guys on here, but enough to give a good sample
The thing to remember with the CNVD-T is that its old. Most were manufactured around 10 years ago... With that in mind, its pretty decent for its age.
If image clarity is your main objective, almost all the modern commercial thermals will outperform it. (Anything 640, and most of the 320s)
The software, and sensors have improved dramatically over the past decade.
But the CNVD-T still has a few redeeming features.
Opinions my vary, I'm sure someone else will have a different perspective
The thing to remember with the CNVD-T is that its old. Most were manufactured around 10 years ago... With that in mind, its pretty decent for its age.
If image clarity is your main objective, almost all the modern commercial thermals will outperform it. (Anything 640, and most of the 320s)
The software, and sensors have improved dramatically over the past decade.
But the CNVD-T still has a few redeeming features.
- Clip On Capability - It can be used as a true clip on (3x sweet spot) or standalone optic
- Bomb Proof - It's rated to 50BMG. If you have a high recoil weapon, this could be your thermal
Opinions my vary, I'm sure someone else will have a different perspective
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Thank you, Hold Over!
Can you give your opinion on the UTM (strictly in clip on role) compared to others (LWTS etc.)? Useable magnification range?
Can you give your opinion on the UTM (strictly in clip on role) compared to others (LWTS etc.)? Useable magnification range?
CNVD-T is, for all practical purposes, the MTM in clip-on form. It is the predecessor to the L3 LWTS, but more compact. If you have experience with the MTM the “T” is identical — same sensor and same display screen.
UTM-X makes an excellent clip-on (better than Skeet and, strictly based upon display, better than CRATOS, though it has certain other deficits compared to the CRATOS). The “regular” UTM, aside from being almost 100% guaranteed to be pre-loved by Uncle Sugar, is not quite as good. The latest iteration of the UTM-X from Trijicon (which is now black) is both TracIR compatible and has been better tuned for clip-on use, as well as packing full power visible and IR lasers and can use the standard L3 PEQ press switch.
Because the UTM-X can technically be helmet-mounted and has a TracIR support, I’d rate it ahead of the CRATOS for most people. The CRATOS sports a full power IR laser as well, and has a nifty color pallet mode, AND has internal shutter/NUC, which is hugely advantageous, IMO.
UTM-X makes an excellent clip-on (better than Skeet and, strictly based upon display, better than CRATOS, though it has certain other deficits compared to the CRATOS). The “regular” UTM, aside from being almost 100% guaranteed to be pre-loved by Uncle Sugar, is not quite as good. The latest iteration of the UTM-X from Trijicon (which is now black) is both TracIR compatible and has been better tuned for clip-on use, as well as packing full power visible and IR lasers and can use the standard L3 PEQ press switch.
Because the UTM-X can technically be helmet-mounted and has a TracIR support, I’d rate it ahead of the CRATOS for most people. The CRATOS sports a full power IR laser as well, and has a nifty color pallet mode, AND has internal shutter/NUC, which is hugely advantageous, IMO.
Thanks, follow up questions
Regular UTM (with receipt from authorized BAE dealer) vs LWTS (again, strictly speaking about clip on duty)?
Specific areas of interest:
1. Max day scope magnification (compared to LWTS)
2. Zero shift when adding the clip on (compared to LWTS)
3. Image (compared)
Regular UTM (with receipt from authorized BAE dealer) vs LWTS (again, strictly speaking about clip on duty)?
Specific areas of interest:
1. Max day scope magnification (compared to LWTS)
2. Zero shift when adding the clip on (compared to LWTS)
3. Image (compared)
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LWTS will make a slightly better clip-on. Original UTM will make a better all-around unit.
They are a pretty even match.
In the role of clip on, Id give the edge to the LWTS
1) Max mag is definitely a subject of preference. Some people can handle a lot of pixelation. That being said, the UTM has a 30 Degree FOV vs a 14.8 Degree FOV in the LWTS. That tighter FOV in the LWTS delivers more detail from a narrower swath of view. I was able to use a 1.5-6 Elcan pretty easily with the LWTS. The UTM has slightly more pixelation.
2) Zero shift is directly related to the two mount types. The Wilcox mount on the UTM isn't designed for precision work, lots of moving parts. The LWTS mount is a traditional QD pic style.
3) Image output on both units is very similar.
In the role of clip on, Id give the edge to the LWTS
1) Max mag is definitely a subject of preference. Some people can handle a lot of pixelation. That being said, the UTM has a 30 Degree FOV vs a 14.8 Degree FOV in the LWTS. That tighter FOV in the LWTS delivers more detail from a narrower swath of view. I was able to use a 1.5-6 Elcan pretty easily with the LWTS. The UTM has slightly more pixelation.
2) Zero shift is directly related to the two mount types. The Wilcox mount on the UTM isn't designed for precision work, lots of moving parts. The LWTS mount is a traditional QD pic style.
3) Image output on both units is very similar.
