Who else can look that damn good throwing 2 interceptions oh yeah, and surpassing Marino all in one night?
Brees for MVP!!
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Congrats to Drew Brees!
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Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.
I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3.
Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
I think it is awesome, and personally I hate when people are kneeling on the ball. The game is football and these guys get paid to play, keep trying is my opinion. These guys are professional athletes, and I don't think we need to protect their feelings by quit playing when you get ahead.. how would we have miraculous comebacks if that were the case?
I think it is awesome, and personally I hate when people are kneeling on the ball. The game is football and these guys get paid to play, keep trying is my opinion. These guys are professional athletes, and I don't think we need to protect their feelings by quit playing when you get ahead.. how would we have miraculous comebacks if that were the case?
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3. </div></div>
I think the MVP should go to Peyton manning. I mean, look what has happened to Indy without him.,,,,LOL
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3. </div></div>
I think the MVP should go to Peyton manning. I mean, look what has happened to Indy without him.,,,,LOL
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GasLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it is awesome, and personally I hate when people are kneeling on the ball. The game is football and these guys get paid to play, keep trying is my opinion. These guys are professional athletes, and I don't think we need to protect their feelings by quit playing when you get ahead.. how would we have miraculous comebacks if that were the case?
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I don't have a problem when teams are just playing. But in this case the team has come out specifically and stated they threw the ball only to get the record. Look at some of the Pats earlier games when they had good leads, but they still went for it on 4th down in the red zone etc. But they weren't trying to chase a record. They put in some younger guys, ie Vereen to get their depth experience and test some things etc they could use in other games in similiar situations. They also didn't just throw the ball to get a record. Yh they did throw it but they mixed in the pass etc as they normally would. That game reminded me of the Pats near the end of 2007 with Brady just chucking the ball up to Moss to try to get to the records.
That wasn't in this case. They specifically chose to throw to get Brees the record and they have even stated that.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GasLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it is awesome, and personally I hate when people are kneeling on the ball. The game is football and these guys get paid to play, keep trying is my opinion. These guys are professional athletes, and I don't think we need to protect their feelings by quit playing when you get ahead.. how would we have miraculous comebacks if that were the case?
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I don't have a problem when teams are just playing. But in this case the team has come out specifically and stated they threw the ball only to get the record. Look at some of the Pats earlier games when they had good leads, but they still went for it on 4th down in the red zone etc. But they weren't trying to chase a record. They put in some younger guys, ie Vereen to get their depth experience and test some things etc they could use in other games in similiar situations. They also didn't just throw the ball to get a record. Yh they did throw it but they mixed in the pass etc as they normally would. That game reminded me of the Pats near the end of 2007 with Brady just chucking the ball up to Moss to try to get to the records.
That wasn't in this case. They specifically chose to throw to get Brees the record and they have even stated that.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Truckman11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3. </div></div>
I think the MVP should go to Peyton manning. I mean, look what has happened to Indy without him.,,,,LOL </div></div>
Yh I think that would be a good pick too lol...I just wouldn't do it becuase as good as Manning truly is and how valid a candidate he is we don't truly know how good the colts would have been even with him. Yh they wouldn't be just a 2 win team but I also actually don't think they would have made the playoffs the way that team played. Their OLine was horrible, their D was pretty atrocious as well and their run game sucked. Crap even their coaching sucked lol...there are bad qbs in this league with teams that still win...primarily becuase of their coaching and gameplanning around that QB and the Colts staff did not do that. They were truly a bad overall team.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Truckman11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3. </div></div>
I think the MVP should go to Peyton manning. I mean, look what has happened to Indy without him.,,,,LOL </div></div>
Yh I think that would be a good pick too lol...I just wouldn't do it becuase as good as Manning truly is and how valid a candidate he is we don't truly know how good the colts would have been even with him. Yh they wouldn't be just a 2 win team but I also actually don't think they would have made the playoffs the way that team played. Their OLine was horrible, their D was pretty atrocious as well and their run game sucked. Crap even their coaching sucked lol...there are bad qbs in this league with teams that still win...primarily becuase of their coaching and gameplanning around that QB and the Colts staff did not do that. They were truly a bad overall team.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
Well, you don't break records by kneeling on the ball, and they don't keep records so they don't get broken..
These guys get paid to play ball, I love when they keep playing and if they have a chance at a record, GO FOR IT...
Well, you don't break records by kneeling on the ball, and they don't keep records so they don't get broken..
These guys get paid to play ball, I love when they keep playing and if they have a chance at a record, GO FOR IT...
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
Eh doesn't mean anything to me at all just like the 2007 records the Pats have. Putting up more yards/points etc against a defense that has essentially given up with the game pretty much ended doesn't say much to me. Didn't win them a Superbowl
I love when teams end up eating trying that crap. That includes my Patriots...like earlier in the season the Pats had like a 21 point lead on the Bills and refused to even run the ball...not saying they have to run every play but it bit them in the ass and Brady turned it over a bunch and allowed the Bills to come back and win.
Not trying to take anything away from Brees, I mean he is a great QB and was going to get the record anyways...but what is the big deal in going and getting the record next week? Wasn't like he would not throw for 30 yards the following week to get the record. I would have laughed so hard if he had gotten picked etc and the Falcons came back just like I did with the Pats...well I was more pissed as to what the heck were they thinking.
It's them purposely altering and attempting to pad stats to get a record. I mean both the QB and coach came out and said that is what they did. I would like to think it's sportsmanship. But hey to each his own
Eh doesn't mean anything to me at all just like the 2007 records the Pats have. Putting up more yards/points etc against a defense that has essentially given up with the game pretty much ended doesn't say much to me. Didn't win them a Superbowl
I love when teams end up eating trying that crap. That includes my Patriots...like earlier in the season the Pats had like a 21 point lead on the Bills and refused to even run the ball...not saying they have to run every play but it bit them in the ass and Brady turned it over a bunch and allowed the Bills to come back and win.
Not trying to take anything away from Brees, I mean he is a great QB and was going to get the record anyways...but what is the big deal in going and getting the record next week? Wasn't like he would not throw for 30 yards the following week to get the record. I would have laughed so hard if he had gotten picked etc and the Falcons came back just like I did with the Pats...well I was more pissed as to what the heck were they thinking.
It's them purposely altering and attempting to pad stats to get a record. I mean both the QB and coach came out and said that is what they did. I would like to think it's sportsmanship. But hey to each his own
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO. </div></div>
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2011/12/atlanta_falcons_players_talk_a.html
This is what Atlanta QB Matt Ryan had to say about the game. With the last 4 games ending in 3 point differences between Atlanta and the Saints do you think they wouldn't have pounded our asses in the ground given the chance!!! What are you guys thinking?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO. </div></div>
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2011/12/atlanta_falcons_players_talk_a.html
This is what Atlanta QB Matt Ryan had to say about the game. With the last 4 games ending in 3 point differences between Atlanta and the Saints do you think they wouldn't have pounded our asses in the ground given the chance!!! What are you guys thinking?
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.</div></div>
Plus there is still another week left is there not? He could have broken the record then.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.</div></div>
Plus there is still another week left is there not? He could have broken the record then.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
I'm not saying sportsmanship isn't cool, but I don't think going after a record is poor sportsmanship. These guys get paid to play, and get paid to perform. We pay to watch them play, not kneel on the ball. If you call continuing to play poor sportsmanship, I simply disagree
This isn't grade school, high school, or even college where we need to coddle athletes. Do you really think at this point in the Falcon's season, losing by 29 points is worse than 3, 7, 21?
I'm not saying sportsmanship isn't cool, but I don't think going after a record is poor sportsmanship. These guys get paid to play, and get paid to perform. We pay to watch them play, not kneel on the ball. If you call continuing to play poor sportsmanship, I simply disagree
This isn't grade school, high school, or even college where we need to coddle athletes. Do you really think at this point in the Falcon's season, losing by 29 points is worse than 3, 7, 21?
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO. </div></div>
You are wrong. Just because the other teams gave up doesn't mean the Saint's had too.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO. </div></div>
You are wrong. Just because the other teams gave up doesn't mean the Saint's had too.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
If a team like Indy didn't want the score run up, they should have played better. I hold no ill will against a team simply doing their job and winning with authority.
And I am a Colts fan suffering through this season. Given the way they have played some of these games, they don't deserve to be coddled. Perhaps if they are embarassed they will do better....apparently it led to them try hard enough to finally win two.
If a team like Indy didn't want the score run up, they should have played better. I hold no ill will against a team simply doing their job and winning with authority.
And I am a Colts fan suffering through this season. Given the way they have played some of these games, they don't deserve to be coddled. Perhaps if they are embarassed they will do better....apparently it led to them try hard enough to finally win two.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
I love how everything devolves into a "I'm right, you're wrong" drama show. There isn't a "right" answer to this. If you're looking for truth, read philosophy or scripture or anything other than an internet forum. These are all the opinions of a bunch of folks that like to shoot and should be understood as such.
Having said that, I don't think sportsmanship is coddling. I think it's classy. As JCH said, they've got another game next week to get the record. Call running up the score whatever you want, but it ain't sportsmanship.
I love how everything devolves into a "I'm right, you're wrong" drama show. There isn't a "right" answer to this. If you're looking for truth, read philosophy or scripture or anything other than an internet forum. These are all the opinions of a bunch of folks that like to shoot and should be understood as such.
Having said that, I don't think sportsmanship is coddling. I think it's classy. As JCH said, they've got another game next week to get the record. Call running up the score whatever you want, but it ain't sportsmanship.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.</div></div>
Plus there is still another week left is there not? He could have broken the record then. </div></div>
So when a man has a once in a life time chance to catch a 25 lb bass, take a 400 lb buck, or hit the sack with swimsuit model they should just wait for the next shot
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.</div></div>
Plus there is still another week left is there not? He could have broken the record then. </div></div>
So when a man has a once in a life time chance to catch a 25 lb bass, take a 400 lb buck, or hit the sack with swimsuit model they should just wait for the next shot
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
If Falcons didn't want the score ran up on them they had a very simple recourse. Stop the Saints from moving the ball down the field and scoring. It is really that simple. These are PROFESSIONAL teams that are very closely matched athletically. It comes down to heart and coaching.
Guns
If Falcons didn't want the score ran up on them they had a very simple recourse. Stop the Saints from moving the ball down the field and scoring. It is really that simple. These are PROFESSIONAL teams that are very closely matched athletically. It comes down to heart and coaching.
Guns
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
I can see it now:
"TWEEEEEEEET"
'There are two penalties on the play first is Unsportsman like conduct #9 offense, running up the score on a defenseless team, second pentaly is unecessary attempt at an NFL record, #9 offense, 28 point penalty, automatic turnover of ball, result of the play is a First Down, Falcon's ball!'
I can see it now:
"TWEEEEEEEET"
'There are two penalties on the play first is Unsportsman like conduct #9 offense, running up the score on a defenseless team, second pentaly is unecessary attempt at an NFL record, #9 offense, 28 point penalty, automatic turnover of ball, result of the play is a First Down, Falcon's ball!'
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bayou Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm glad for him. I hope he hangs another 500 on them next week. </div></div>Same here, good for him. Get the all time NFL yardage record if its there for the taking. Let the losers or fans of the losers bitch, who cares. BTW, somehow I'm a Falcons and Saints fan which I hear is rare.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bayou Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm glad for him. I hope he hangs another 500 on them next week. </div></div>Same here, good for him. Get the all time NFL yardage record if its there for the taking. Let the losers or fans of the losers bitch, who cares. BTW, somehow I'm a Falcons and Saints fan which I hear is rare.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
is someone out there actually saying that these high paid players shouldnt play to their fullest for the entire game. Give me a break.
This isnt the little leagues. I personally think that professional sports players are waaaaaaaaaay over paid but thats what our society is willing to blow their money on so the industry makes a shitload of money. I'd rather it go to the players than in the pockets of those not out on the field.
For that kind of money they better play hard the entire game.
Nothing is certain. Lots of comebacks can occur in the second half. Shut the other team down and keep them down. It's the sure ticket to a victory.
If anything, it helps a team look hard at the players and coaches to make changes for the next season.
is someone out there actually saying that these high paid players shouldnt play to their fullest for the entire game. Give me a break.
This isnt the little leagues. I personally think that professional sports players are waaaaaaaaaay over paid but thats what our society is willing to blow their money on so the industry makes a shitload of money. I'd rather it go to the players than in the pockets of those not out on the field.
For that kind of money they better play hard the entire game.
Nothing is certain. Lots of comebacks can occur in the second half. Shut the other team down and keep them down. It's the sure ticket to a victory.
If anything, it helps a team look hard at the players and coaches to make changes for the next season.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Roadwild17</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.</div></div>
Plus there is still another week left is there not? He could have broken the record then. </div></div>
So when a man has a once in a life time chance to catch a 25 lb bass, take a 400 lb buck, or hit the sack with swimsuit model they should just wait for the next shot
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You're comparisons aren't even close....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Roadwild17</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.</div></div>
Plus there is still another week left is there not? He could have broken the record then. </div></div>
So when a man has a once in a life time chance to catch a 25 lb bass, take a 400 lb buck, or hit the sack with swimsuit model they should just wait for the next shot
You're comparisons aren't even close....
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
I am not a Saints fan and I don't have a problem with them "running up" the score. If you think a team is safe with a small lead, you haven't kept up with the NFL much (especially this year). I remember someone with a 10 point lead and few seconds over 2 minutes left losing to the Broncos a few weeks ago.
If the Saints has played safe and ended up losing, everyone would criticize them for blowing the lead.
Anyway, congrats to Brees. It's good to have a record, though I don't think anyone will be confusing him for the best quarterback of all time. He might be a top ten, time will tell.
I am not a Saints fan and I don't have a problem with them "running up" the score. If you think a team is safe with a small lead, you haven't kept up with the NFL much (especially this year). I remember someone with a 10 point lead and few seconds over 2 minutes left losing to the Broncos a few weeks ago.
If the Saints has played safe and ended up losing, everyone would criticize them for blowing the lead.
Anyway, congrats to Brees. It's good to have a record, though I don't think anyone will be confusing him for the best quarterback of all time. He might be a top ten, time will tell.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redirt78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> BTW, somehow I'm a Falcons and Saints fan which I hear is rare. </div></div>
Very rare, indeed.
I just typed and deleted a post, because arguing on the internet is truly a folly. Congrats go to Drew Brees on his record season.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redirt78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> BTW, somehow I'm a Falcons and Saints fan which I hear is rare. </div></div>
Very rare, indeed.
I just typed and deleted a post, because arguing on the internet is truly a folly. Congrats go to Drew Brees on his record season.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn bro, you're not an LSU fan, not a Saints fan?? What kind of fan are you
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Don't worry, I am not a Cowboys or Bama fan either!! I have always been a Broncos fan, though it has been tough since Elway retired. I could become a LSU fan if they "cleaned up" a little (no honey badger behavior), but have always like offense.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn bro, you're not an LSU fan, not a Saints fan?? What kind of fan are you
Don't worry, I am not a Cowboys or Bama fan either!! I have always been a Broncos fan, though it has been tough since Elway retired. I could become a LSU fan if they "cleaned up" a little (no honey badger behavior), but have always like offense.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
With Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers breathing down my neck I'd get all the yards that I could. When you were young did you pass up good looking girls because your buddies couldn't get as many as you? Take a knee?... F-that
With Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers breathing down my neck I'd get all the yards that I could. When you were young did you pass up good looking girls because your buddies couldn't get as many as you? Take a knee?... F-that
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO. </div></div>
You are wrong. Just because the other teams gave up doesn't mean the Saint's had too. </div></div>
I don't think people are saying they had to give up. Earlier in the season the Pats had a good lead and had a 4th down. Instead of kicking a fg they went for it. But they weren't purposely doing one thing or another chasing a record. Running the ball and even mixing in a pass or two etc would have been fine as they tried to continue to score and work on things. But purposely altering your game, which they stated they did, in order to get the record in the fashion they did, to me (to each their own...everyone is entitled to their own) just doesn't do it for me. Especially even more considering he still had one more game left.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO. </div></div>
You are wrong. Just because the other teams gave up doesn't mean the Saint's had too. </div></div>
I don't think people are saying they had to give up. Earlier in the season the Pats had a good lead and had a 4th down. Instead of kicking a fg they went for it. But they weren't purposely doing one thing or another chasing a record. Running the ball and even mixing in a pass or two etc would have been fine as they tried to continue to score and work on things. But purposely altering your game, which they stated they did, in order to get the record in the fashion they did, to me (to each their own...everyone is entitled to their own) just doesn't do it for me. Especially even more considering he still had one more game left.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Roadwild17</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.</div></div>
Plus there is still another week left is there not? He could have broken the record then. </div></div>
So when a man has a once in a life time chance to catch a 25 lb bass, take a 400 lb buck, or hit the sack with swimsuit model they should just wait for the next shot
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Think that is a little dramatizing it, no lolol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Roadwild17</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a much higher opinion of Drew Brees and Sean Payton before they chased this record by running up the score on vanquished opponents (Indy and Atlanta). Payton even said after the game that if not for the record, they would have just run the clock out. Great record, but poor sportsmanship IMHO.</div></div>
Plus there is still another week left is there not? He could have broken the record then. </div></div>
So when a man has a once in a life time chance to catch a 25 lb bass, take a 400 lb buck, or hit the sack with swimsuit model they should just wait for the next shot
Think that is a little dramatizing it, no lolol
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maelek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is someone out there actually saying that these high paid players shouldnt play to their fullest for the entire game. Give me a break.
This isnt the little leagues. I personally think that professional sports players are waaaaaaaaaay over paid but thats what our society is willing to blow their money on so the industry makes a shitload of money. I'd rather it go to the players than in the pockets of those not out on the field.
For that kind of money they better play hard the entire game.
Nothing is certain. Lots of comebacks can occur in the second half. Shut the other team down and keep them down. It's the sure ticket to a victory.
If anything, it helps a team look hard at the players and coaches to make changes for the next season. </div></div>
Actually it would have made more sense for the Saints to run the ball to kill the clock which in turn would not allow time for a comeback...trust me I know after the Pats loss to the Bills. Pats decided to keep throwing the ball, which resulted in INTs, sacks, stoppage in time for incompletes and the Bills helped use that to come back and win. Probably wouldn't have happened if they had ran it a lot more.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maelek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is someone out there actually saying that these high paid players shouldnt play to their fullest for the entire game. Give me a break.
This isnt the little leagues. I personally think that professional sports players are waaaaaaaaaay over paid but thats what our society is willing to blow their money on so the industry makes a shitload of money. I'd rather it go to the players than in the pockets of those not out on the field.
For that kind of money they better play hard the entire game.
Nothing is certain. Lots of comebacks can occur in the second half. Shut the other team down and keep them down. It's the sure ticket to a victory.
If anything, it helps a team look hard at the players and coaches to make changes for the next season. </div></div>
Actually it would have made more sense for the Saints to run the ball to kill the clock which in turn would not allow time for a comeback...trust me I know after the Pats loss to the Bills. Pats decided to keep throwing the ball, which resulted in INTs, sacks, stoppage in time for incompletes and the Bills helped use that to come back and win. Probably wouldn't have happened if they had ran it a lot more.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are really funny! Sound like a bunch of old women playing cards for a penny a hand!! </div></div>
Says the guy from Louisiana LOL
I have no problem with them keep playing or even scoring. Hell they could have scored 3 more TDs and I wouldn't have cared. It was the fact that they were purposely stat padding to get a record. The game should not be about records. If you get it great if not well it's the W or L that matters and the Superbowl.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are really funny! Sound like a bunch of old women playing cards for a penny a hand!! </div></div>
Says the guy from Louisiana LOL
I have no problem with them keep playing or even scoring. Hell they could have scored 3 more TDs and I wouldn't have cared. It was the fact that they were purposely stat padding to get a record. The game should not be about records. If you get it great if not well it's the W or L that matters and the Superbowl.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
Congrats to Drew - he's a good QB but guys like Rodgers and Brady impress me more.
This year Drew Brees played 11 out of 16 games inside. Aaron played that many <span style="font-style: italic">outside</span> and he's putting up just as good or better numbers.
Drew passes, A LOT. He has <span style="font-weight: bold">120</span> MORE pass attempts than Aaron Rodgers does this year. That's essentially 4 extra games worth.
If you applied Aaron's performance to Drew's attempts - he'd have 5724 yards and 56 TD's with a game to go. He could be going for 60 TDs and 6000 yards this weekend. He ISN'T because he's more efficient. GB has the #1 scoring offense in the league with 120 LESS pass attempts and a horrible run game. Drew gets yards because he's ALWAYS throwing the ball.
Drew's good - just not as impressive <span style="font-style: italic">to me</span> as what guys like Aaron and Brady are - outside in the cold.
Congrats to Drew - he's a good QB but guys like Rodgers and Brady impress me more.
This year Drew Brees played 11 out of 16 games inside. Aaron played that many <span style="font-style: italic">outside</span> and he's putting up just as good or better numbers.
Drew passes, A LOT. He has <span style="font-weight: bold">120</span> MORE pass attempts than Aaron Rodgers does this year. That's essentially 4 extra games worth.
If you applied Aaron's performance to Drew's attempts - he'd have 5724 yards and 56 TD's with a game to go. He could be going for 60 TDs and 6000 yards this weekend. He ISN'T because he's more efficient. GB has the #1 scoring offense in the league with 120 LESS pass attempts and a horrible run game. Drew gets yards because he's ALWAYS throwing the ball.
Drew's good - just not as impressive <span style="font-style: italic">to me</span> as what guys like Aaron and Brady are - outside in the cold.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
Records are meant to be broken.
Good for Brees. I couldn't give a rip about the Saints, but I like to see history made.
Records are meant to be broken.
Good for Brees. I couldn't give a rip about the Saints, but I like to see history made.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are really funny! Sound like a bunch of old women playing cards for a penny a hand!! </div></div>
Says the guy from Louisiana LOL
I have no problem with them keep playing or even scoring. Hell they could have scored 3 more TDs and I wouldn't have cared. It was the fact that they were purposely stat padding to get a record. The game should not be about records. If you get it great if not well it's the W or L that matters and the Superbowl.</div></div>
I can nearly agree with you, and if I was a Saints fan, and they blew the win trying to get a record, I would have been furious. That said, everything in the NFL is about stats anymore, the players get paid by them, and the commentators feed on them. I continually joke with my wife about there being a new NFL record... "That's the first time in franchise history that a guy kicked a 28 yard field goal from the right hash wearing two different colored shoes, and he is left footed! that's a team record" it seems that some of the stats get a little rediculous, but this was a legitimate mark, and I think it is awesome that they allowed the Brees to chase it on MNF. I personally hate when a team plays it safe, and won't give their kicker a chance at an uber long field goal, or they start running the clock out and basically stop playing.. but I guess we don't all have to watch for the same reasons
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are really funny! Sound like a bunch of old women playing cards for a penny a hand!! </div></div>
Says the guy from Louisiana LOL
I have no problem with them keep playing or even scoring. Hell they could have scored 3 more TDs and I wouldn't have cared. It was the fact that they were purposely stat padding to get a record. The game should not be about records. If you get it great if not well it's the W or L that matters and the Superbowl.</div></div>
I can nearly agree with you, and if I was a Saints fan, and they blew the win trying to get a record, I would have been furious. That said, everything in the NFL is about stats anymore, the players get paid by them, and the commentators feed on them. I continually joke with my wife about there being a new NFL record... "That's the first time in franchise history that a guy kicked a 28 yard field goal from the right hash wearing two different colored shoes, and he is left footed! that's a team record" it seems that some of the stats get a little rediculous, but this was a legitimate mark, and I think it is awesome that they allowed the Brees to chase it on MNF. I personally hate when a team plays it safe, and won't give their kicker a chance at an uber long field goal, or they start running the clock out and basically stop playing.. but I guess we don't all have to watch for the same reasons
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GasLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are really funny! Sound like a bunch of old women playing cards for a penny a hand!! </div></div>
Says the guy from Louisiana LOL
I have no problem with them keep playing or even scoring. Hell they could have scored 3 more TDs and I wouldn't have cared. It was the fact that they were purposely stat padding to get a record. The game should not be about records. If you get it great if not well it's the W or L that matters and the Superbowl.</div></div>
I can nearly agree with you, and if I was a Saints fan, and they blew the win trying to get a record, I would have been furious. That said, everything in the NFL is about stats anymore, the players get paid by them, and the commentators feed on them. I continually joke with my wife about there being a new NFL record... "That's the first time in franchise history that a guy kicked a 28 yard field goal from the right hash wearing two different colored shoes, and he is left footed! that's a team record" it seems that some of the stats get a little rediculous, but this was a legitimate mark, and I think it is awesome that they allowed the Brees to chase it on MNF. I personally hate when a team plays it safe, and won't give their kicker a chance at an uber long field goal, or they start running the clock out and basically stop playing.. but I guess we don't all have to watch for the same reasons
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I think we are actually not far off from each other. I'm not condoning to stop playing and kneel the ball or just run the ball. My belief is that they should keep playing but to purposely alter the gameplan to only throw the ball on the last drive I think was assinine. I'm not saying to stop throwing the ball but in a game in which you are already up 2 scores with 2 minutes left to play and choose to completely alter your game and only throw the ball to chase the record, ie stat padding, I think is in bad taste. Again I am not condoning not playing the full 60 minutes nor even saying they couldn't throw the ball, but to completely change their gameplan, they have stated that they did, and to just pad stats FOR ME is in bad taste. Just continue to play ball.
I saw plenty of it with the 2007 Pats and I thought it was kinda distasteful seeing Brady chuck up a deep ball to Moss who has three defendors on him with 2 minutes left and a 3 score lead trying to chase records. If Moss has 3 guys on him that means he had other receivers he could have thrown to.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GasLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are really funny! Sound like a bunch of old women playing cards for a penny a hand!! </div></div>
Says the guy from Louisiana LOL
I have no problem with them keep playing or even scoring. Hell they could have scored 3 more TDs and I wouldn't have cared. It was the fact that they were purposely stat padding to get a record. The game should not be about records. If you get it great if not well it's the W or L that matters and the Superbowl.</div></div>
I can nearly agree with you, and if I was a Saints fan, and they blew the win trying to get a record, I would have been furious. That said, everything in the NFL is about stats anymore, the players get paid by them, and the commentators feed on them. I continually joke with my wife about there being a new NFL record... "That's the first time in franchise history that a guy kicked a 28 yard field goal from the right hash wearing two different colored shoes, and he is left footed! that's a team record" it seems that some of the stats get a little rediculous, but this was a legitimate mark, and I think it is awesome that they allowed the Brees to chase it on MNF. I personally hate when a team plays it safe, and won't give their kicker a chance at an uber long field goal, or they start running the clock out and basically stop playing.. but I guess we don't all have to watch for the same reasons
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I think we are actually not far off from each other. I'm not condoning to stop playing and kneel the ball or just run the ball. My belief is that they should keep playing but to purposely alter the gameplan to only throw the ball on the last drive I think was assinine. I'm not saying to stop throwing the ball but in a game in which you are already up 2 scores with 2 minutes left to play and choose to completely alter your game and only throw the ball to chase the record, ie stat padding, I think is in bad taste. Again I am not condoning not playing the full 60 minutes nor even saying they couldn't throw the ball, but to completely change their gameplan, they have stated that they did, and to just pad stats FOR ME is in bad taste. Just continue to play ball.
I saw plenty of it with the 2007 Pats and I thought it was kinda distasteful seeing Brady chuck up a deep ball to Moss who has three defendors on him with 2 minutes left and a 3 score lead trying to chase records. If Moss has 3 guys on him that means he had other receivers he could have thrown to.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: teal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Congrats to Drew - he's a good QB but guys like Rodgers and Brady impress me more.
This year Drew Brees played 11 out of 16 games inside. Aaron played that many <span style="font-style: italic">outside</span> and he's putting up just as good or better numbers.
Drew passes, A LOT. He has <span style="font-weight: bold">120</span> MORE pass attempts than Aaron Rodgers does this year. That's essentially 4 extra games worth.
If you applied Aaron's performance to Drew's attempts - he'd have 5724 yards and 56 TD's with a game to go. He could be going for 60 TDs and 6000 yards this weekend. He ISN'T because he's more efficient. GB has the #1 scoring offense in the league with 120 LESS pass attempts and a horrible run game. Drew gets yards because he's ALWAYS throwing the ball.
Drew's good - just not as impressive <span style="font-style: italic">to me</span> as what guys like Aaron and Brady are - outside in the cold. </div></div>
I completely agree with you on this. I checked the stats when this thread came up and noticed those things as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: teal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Congrats to Drew - he's a good QB but guys like Rodgers and Brady impress me more.
This year Drew Brees played 11 out of 16 games inside. Aaron played that many <span style="font-style: italic">outside</span> and he's putting up just as good or better numbers.
Drew passes, A LOT. He has <span style="font-weight: bold">120</span> MORE pass attempts than Aaron Rodgers does this year. That's essentially 4 extra games worth.
If you applied Aaron's performance to Drew's attempts - he'd have 5724 yards and 56 TD's with a game to go. He could be going for 60 TDs and 6000 yards this weekend. He ISN'T because he's more efficient. GB has the #1 scoring offense in the league with 120 LESS pass attempts and a horrible run game. Drew gets yards because he's ALWAYS throwing the ball.
Drew's good - just not as impressive <span style="font-style: italic">to me</span> as what guys like Aaron and Brady are - outside in the cold. </div></div>
I completely agree with you on this. I checked the stats when this thread came up and noticed those things as well.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
One thing I have seen for sure. Players have hot streak seasons and sometimes not nearly as hot the next year. You have to look at the career to really say who belongs where and to be top 10 all time is nearly impossible.
All I can say is Drew is #1 AND #3 on total passing yards in a season. A record that has stood for 20 something years. It's not an accident and his accuracy is off the charts.
I LOVE Rodgers and I think he's gonna be outstanding for a long time. But before we start calling him better than someone who's had alot more experience and stats, etc, we need to let the test of time run its course. One season cannot possibly make a player the best that ever played the game. That goes for Brees too.
One thing I have seen for sure. Players have hot streak seasons and sometimes not nearly as hot the next year. You have to look at the career to really say who belongs where and to be top 10 all time is nearly impossible.
All I can say is Drew is #1 AND #3 on total passing yards in a season. A record that has stood for 20 something years. It's not an accident and his accuracy is off the charts.
I LOVE Rodgers and I think he's gonna be outstanding for a long time. But before we start calling him better than someone who's had alot more experience and stats, etc, we need to let the test of time run its course. One season cannot possibly make a player the best that ever played the game. That goes for Brees too.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bayou Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing I have seen for sure. Players have hot streak seasons and sometimes not nearly as hot the next year. You have to look at the career to really say who belongs where and to be top 10 all time is nearly impossible.
All I can say is Drew is #1 AND #3 on total passing yards in a season. A record that has stood for 20 something years. It's not an accident and his accuracy is off the charts.
I LOVE Rodgers and I think he's gonna be outstanding for a long time. But before we start calling him better than someone who's had alot more experience and stats, etc, we need to let the test of time run its course. One season cannot possibly make a player the best that ever played the game. That goes for Brees too. </div></div>
To me total passing yards means very little or rather inconclusive when determining the best Qbs. Reason being like someone said earlier Brees has 120 more attempts than Rodgers this year and more than Brady as well...so can't really use that statistic. For everything that you judge a QB on there is something that offsets it. You can argue that someone has a higher completion percentage, but how many drops has that QB suffered at the hands of his WR and how good are his WRs? Yards, well how many times did he throw it? Wins, is his defense top notch and win some games for him?
There is just no set characteristic or stat that you can use. I think there are so many variables you have to factor in and that is the reason why I would not put Brees as MVP. You have two other QBs, Brady and Rodgers, that have worse defenses that have throw for similar yards, and have as many wins if not more than Brees and are not all that far behind in yards and have less attempts.
Granted Brees is an outstanding QB and has a high completion percentage which to me is a bigger deal than the yards themselves.
Last 8-10 years or so Brady has lead the league in twice in passer rating (2007 and 2010), Brees once (2009) while also coming in second once (2006) and Rodgers runner up to Brady last season (hasn't been starting long). Both Brady and Brees have lead the league in throwing TDs in a season about the same amount of times. It is just so hard to argue who is the best and who isnt, hence all the arguments by the analysts etc. I think we can all agree though that Brady, Brees and Rodgers are all in the elite category and make watching football right now very entertaining
- extra note remember that the Saints have a very good rushing attack (9th in the league) whereas the Patriots and Green Bay are not nearly as good (19th and 27th respectively). A good running attack helps open up the passing
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bayou Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing I have seen for sure. Players have hot streak seasons and sometimes not nearly as hot the next year. You have to look at the career to really say who belongs where and to be top 10 all time is nearly impossible.
All I can say is Drew is #1 AND #3 on total passing yards in a season. A record that has stood for 20 something years. It's not an accident and his accuracy is off the charts.
I LOVE Rodgers and I think he's gonna be outstanding for a long time. But before we start calling him better than someone who's had alot more experience and stats, etc, we need to let the test of time run its course. One season cannot possibly make a player the best that ever played the game. That goes for Brees too. </div></div>
To me total passing yards means very little or rather inconclusive when determining the best Qbs. Reason being like someone said earlier Brees has 120 more attempts than Rodgers this year and more than Brady as well...so can't really use that statistic. For everything that you judge a QB on there is something that offsets it. You can argue that someone has a higher completion percentage, but how many drops has that QB suffered at the hands of his WR and how good are his WRs? Yards, well how many times did he throw it? Wins, is his defense top notch and win some games for him?
There is just no set characteristic or stat that you can use. I think there are so many variables you have to factor in and that is the reason why I would not put Brees as MVP. You have two other QBs, Brady and Rodgers, that have worse defenses that have throw for similar yards, and have as many wins if not more than Brees and are not all that far behind in yards and have less attempts.
Granted Brees is an outstanding QB and has a high completion percentage which to me is a bigger deal than the yards themselves.
Last 8-10 years or so Brady has lead the league in twice in passer rating (2007 and 2010), Brees once (2009) while also coming in second once (2006) and Rodgers runner up to Brady last season (hasn't been starting long). Both Brady and Brees have lead the league in throwing TDs in a season about the same amount of times. It is just so hard to argue who is the best and who isnt, hence all the arguments by the analysts etc. I think we can all agree though that Brady, Brees and Rodgers are all in the elite category and make watching football right now very entertaining
- extra note remember that the Saints have a very good rushing attack (9th in the league) whereas the Patriots and Green Bay are not nearly as good (19th and 27th respectively). A good running attack helps open up the passing
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love how everything devolves into a "I'm right, you're wrong" drama show. There isn't a "right" answer to this. If you're looking for truth, read philosophy or scripture or anything other than an internet forum. These are all the opinions of a bunch of folks that like to shoot and should be understood as such.
Having said that, I don't think sportsmanship is coddling. I think it's classy. As JCH said, they've got another game next week to get the record. Call running up the score whatever you want, but it ain't sportsmanship. </div></div>
this whole running up the score thing is BS. As far as I'm concerned sportsmanship has nothing to do with teh score of the game. if you want to win by 3 or 40 that's fine. they are athletes all trying to accomplish the same goal, crushing their opponent. You can still score a shitload of points and show great sportsmanship. it's about the way you act during and after the game.
Executing a gameplan has nothing to do with sportsmanship.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love how everything devolves into a "I'm right, you're wrong" drama show. There isn't a "right" answer to this. If you're looking for truth, read philosophy or scripture or anything other than an internet forum. These are all the opinions of a bunch of folks that like to shoot and should be understood as such.
Having said that, I don't think sportsmanship is coddling. I think it's classy. As JCH said, they've got another game next week to get the record. Call running up the score whatever you want, but it ain't sportsmanship. </div></div>
this whole running up the score thing is BS. As far as I'm concerned sportsmanship has nothing to do with teh score of the game. if you want to win by 3 or 40 that's fine. they are athletes all trying to accomplish the same goal, crushing their opponent. You can still score a shitload of points and show great sportsmanship. it's about the way you act during and after the game.
Executing a gameplan has nothing to do with sportsmanship.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are really funny! Sound like a bunch of old women playing cards for a penny a hand!! </div></div>
Says the guy from Louisiana LOL
I have no problem with them keep playing or even scoring. Hell they could have scored 3 more TDs and I wouldn't have cared. It was the fact that they were purposely stat padding to get a record. The game should not be about records. If you get it great if not well it's the W or L that matters and the Superbowl. </div></div>
So a pitcher throwing a perfect game should just quit doing what he is doing and throw up "gimme's" right down the middle if his team is up 8-10 runs?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are really funny! Sound like a bunch of old women playing cards for a penny a hand!! </div></div>
Says the guy from Louisiana LOL
I have no problem with them keep playing or even scoring. Hell they could have scored 3 more TDs and I wouldn't have cared. It was the fact that they were purposely stat padding to get a record. The game should not be about records. If you get it great if not well it's the W or L that matters and the Superbowl. </div></div>
So a pitcher throwing a perfect game should just quit doing what he is doing and throw up "gimme's" right down the middle if his team is up 8-10 runs?
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3. </div></div>
What the fuck ever. If you have the ability to produce the results then your deserving. If the other team doesn't like it perhaps they should learn to play defense.
By the way I loved how the giants teabagged the pats in the superbowl.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3. </div></div>
What the fuck ever. If you have the ability to produce the results then your deserving. If the other team doesn't like it perhaps they should learn to play defense.
By the way I loved how the giants teabagged the pats in the superbowl.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3. </div></div>
What the fuck ever. If you have the ability to produce the results then your deserving. If the other team doesn't like it perhaps they should learn to play defense.
By the way I loved how the giants teabagged the pats in the superbowl. </div></div>
Well said YMT, this thread has been consumed with his whiny ass remarks. If people really knew how much of a class individual Drew Brees really is there would be no negative remarks. I would congratulate any of the above elite QB's for a stellar accomplishment of that record. And I'm not a fan of either of the other two teams, but it would be deserving.
So Anthony go whine somewhere else bro, your Pats have home field advantage with their weak ass schedule. In the end what you think doesn't matter. The best two teams will be in the Super Bowl. And the best team will win!! Let's see if it's your Patriots. I will say however. I will quickly become a fan of the NFC Champion whomever it is if it's against your Patriots.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anthony20031</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Feel the same Bubba. I'm a Pats fan and I got annoyed when they went for the records in 2007.
With that said I would not have Brees as MVP. Both Brady and Rodgers I think are better deserving. They are not that far behind in yards yet have had a lot less attempts. Also the Patriots and Packers have worse defenses yet the Packers only have one loss and Pats have 3. </div></div>
What the fuck ever. If you have the ability to produce the results then your deserving. If the other team doesn't like it perhaps they should learn to play defense.
By the way I loved how the giants teabagged the pats in the superbowl. </div></div>
Well said YMT, this thread has been consumed with his whiny ass remarks. If people really knew how much of a class individual Drew Brees really is there would be no negative remarks. I would congratulate any of the above elite QB's for a stellar accomplishment of that record. And I'm not a fan of either of the other two teams, but it would be deserving.
So Anthony go whine somewhere else bro, your Pats have home field advantage with their weak ass schedule. In the end what you think doesn't matter. The best two teams will be in the Super Bowl. And the best team will win!! Let's see if it's your Patriots. I will say however. I will quickly become a fan of the NFC Champion whomever it is if it's against your Patriots.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
Just a quick question....Is Matt Flynn better than A. Rodgers? I mean after all if you gave Flynn the attempts that Roadgers had this year he'd have like 7000 yards.
Just a quick question....Is Matt Flynn better than A. Rodgers? I mean after all if you gave Flynn the attempts that Roadgers had this year he'd have like 7000 yards.
Re: Congrats to Drew Brees!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kengel2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just a quick question....Is Matt Flynn better than A. Rodgers? I mean after all if you gave Flynn the attempts that Roadgers had this year he'd have like 7000 yards.</div></div>
No - Detroit's secondary is just that bad.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kengel2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just a quick question....Is Matt Flynn better than A. Rodgers? I mean after all if you gave Flynn the attempts that Roadgers had this year he'd have like 7000 yards.</div></div>
No - Detroit's secondary is just that bad.
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