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Cricket Rifle case rupture Vent Hole Warning!

RogueHk

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<span style="font-weight: bold">the vent hole is on the left side of the receiver where one might put a hand</span>

I found this while looking for cricket aftermarket barrels and supply's. I'm pretty sure when the kid fired the rifle he was covering the vent hole on the side of the chamber in case of a ruptured case. It is supposed to direct the hot gasses away from the shooters face. It looks like in this case it will go right into your face if your right handed. Well this is what happens when a little kid covers the vent hole and a case ruptures.

I'm shocked they didn't put that hole somewhere on the top of the barrel like Remington did with the 581. What a dangerous spot to put that stupid hole!

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I think the fix might be to tig weld that hole shut get a new barrel and have a vent hole drilled forward on the top of the barrel.


http://www.louisianasportsman.com/lpca/i...t&id=150439
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: furtaker_.223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Poor guy. I sure hope this don't stop him in the sport. I'm glad he is ok. </div></div>x2...something like that happening to a kid might make him scared to shoot or even be near someone else shooting.
 
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I have had two case ruptures in 2 months in 2 different guns with different ammo, I SHOULD be able to win the lottery!
I hope the kid is alright and sticks with shooting. I really hate it for the little guy but these things happen.

Now I am gonna piss you off.
These things happen because people don't know any better. There is no reason for anyone to have their thumb laying over the breach vent hole on any rifle. You SHOULD know what that hole is for and you SHOULD teach your kids not to cover said hole with any appendage. No matter where the fucking hole is someone that doesn't get told why NOT to put a finger there ultimately will.
THIS IS WHERE THE GASSES WILL VENT IF YOU HAVE A RUPTURED CASE. Blame the rifle? Blame the ammo? Blame his fucking daddy and you will hit the goddamned bullseye! There is no sound reason to hold a rifle in the manner that kid had to hold it to get his thumb in front of the breach vent.
If we learn anything here it is to be more cognisant of how we train our kids to respect a firearm, and understand its parts and their function.
More ammo for the ban nazis. Rant off.
 
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The more I think about it and read into it more the madder I get. These are his words from the link above. I found it striking he wanted as many people to know about this as possible. It appears he is still not sure what happened. If he doesn't know what happened he has no business owning guns and especially teaching kids to use them.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> WARNING to Cricket Rifle Owners

I want as many people as possible to know about this accident to my 7 year old chap this past weekend. First of all I'm not bashing any product, I just don't want anymore injuries until there's more info. The rifle was a 22 cricket. Ammo was Remington. Bottom line the gun/ammo misfired which it vents out the left side of the gun on the barrel and it caught his thumb resulting in a very tragic accident. He's having surgery Wed. to remove the shrapnel from the bone.I own two of these guns and love them. I taught my boys how to shoot with these and they went on to be a very good shot. I can email anyone the pics or give more details. Please pass this on because its camp time and alot of young kids have these guns with tons of the cheap ammo to burn up. Please see the rest of the pics further down on another post.</div></div>

Plenty of pics to make the case here. No pics of the offending malfunctioning gun. The vent hole worked perfectly and as intended. Had the vent hole not been there the kid would most likely now be blind as I bet money to dog shit he wasn't wearing safety glasses.

I have no problem with discussion on this thread but I believe the pics need to be taken down. There is no useful purpose to be gleaned from them besides futhering an anti gun agenda.
 
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It's the location of the hole that really bothers me. I don't think it will fuel any anti gun agenda. Hell the kid getting shot with a machine gun I'm sure did that. I plan to call the guy up and talk to him and then call keystone up and talk to them too. I only deiced to make this thread because I own this rifle and I don't want my kid or anyone's getting hurt.


I got the rifle out after reading about that and looking at the pictures. It's very possible what I think happened did happen. I think the kid was using his left arm to steady the weapon by the trigger guard and had his thumb resting on the barrel. When he pulled the trigger the case blew out and his thumb was covering the hole. The firearm worked as it should have but I think it's a design flaw. This could happen again with bad ammo

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RogueHK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's the location of the hole that really bothers me. I don't think it will fuel any anti gun agenda. Hell the kid getting shot with a machine gun I'm sure did that. I plan to call the guy up and talk to him and then call keystone up and talk to them too. I only deiced to make this thread because I own this rifle and I don't want my kid or anyone's getting hurt.


I got the rifle out after reading about that and looking at the pictures. It's very possible what I think happened did happen. I think the kid was using his left arm to steady the weapon by the trigger guard and had his thumb resting on the barrel. When he pulled the trigger the case blew out and his thumb was covering the hole. The firearm worked as it should have but I think it's a design flaw. This could happen again with bad ammo

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Where would you like the hole to be put. So you want a gun redesigned because you think you know better? I will say it again, NO MATTER WHERE YOU PUT THE HOLE the uneducated will ultimately find a way to get an appendage in front of the hole. I know what happened too, I have not insinuated there is any mystery here. It is quite obvious what happened. It is obvious that his thumb was indeed in front of the hole...in fact tightly gripping it most likely. I have seen people wrap their ENTIRE thumb around the reciever ring when firing a rifle. They lack proper training just as this unfortunate young man. Where would you put the receiver vent for those who wrap their entire thumb around the receiver? So you place it on the top, a scope gets mounted and a case bursts just like our example here. So are you better off with that in your face or in your thumb? You blocked the vent when you mounted the scope causing the gasses to seek a path through the bolt possibly in fact driving the bolt into a 3lb collection of grey matter through an eye socket.
There is nothing wrong with the firearm design. There is simply a lack of education in proper firearm function and hand placement on a firearm. Everyone I have ever taught to shoot a firearm knows what "that hole" does and why, and also why to avoid plugging it with flesh.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I own this rifle and I don't want my kid or anyone's getting hurt.
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Then you know what you should do? Educate them on what "that hole" is for, and to keep their fingers and any other part of their body, the hell out from in front of it.
Most people I know who own guns know what a breach hole is for and what it is designed to do. The safety device worked as designed. The problem was no proper education about the saftey device. Yet another case of people owning firearms and never really understanding how they work.
 
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Honesty will get you further w/ your agenda than guessing, conjecture and heresay. A simple, "I don't know." would have been more appropriate and accurate. The original post you linked didn't even say....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RogueHK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.22 as far as I know</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maxpower</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Honesty will get you further w/ your agenda than guessing, conjecture and heresay. A simple, "I don't know." would have been more appropriate and accurate. The original post you linked didn't even say....</div></div>

He is pretty good about slinging around hearsay.....
 
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Max this is all we have to go on and it is from the original linked article:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The rifle was a 22 cricket. Ammo was Remington.</div></div>

If you see above I copied the article to one of my posts.
Looks like someone with an axe to grind. I hope no one suffers another needless lawsuit over this. Again accidents like this happen. The gun funtioned as it should in an overpressure moment and saved the boys eyesight.
 
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just says 22 crickett. no idea if its wmr or lr though. If it was really the gun/ammo fault, why isn't there a pict of the ruptured case and the rifle? the specific type and line of ammo(Thunderbolt, subsonic, yellowjacket, etc...)? I agree w/ your posts above Armor- totally NOT the fault of the weapon....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: furtaker_.223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Poor guy. I sure hope this don't stop him in the sport. I'm glad he is ok.</div></div>

Let me rephrase that, I'm glad nothing more serious happened. It could of been a lot worse. I hope all goes well for him through his surgery.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own this rifle and I don't want my kid or anyone's getting hurt.</div></div>

Live, learn and pass it along. Thanks RogueHK.

Poor kid that looks like it hurts something awful.
 
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These guns are made 20 minutes from my house. Each of my nephews got one of these rifles for there third birthday. Dont bash the gun because the kid wasnt given proper instruction. that barrel hole is a safety device and it worked as intended. without that hole in the event of a case failure all that gas comes back around the bolt into your face.
 
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I shot ours the other day. No need for a barrel change. We were hitting clays at 150 yards. Freakin awesome! I never had so much fun with a pink rifle before.
 
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I have bought all three of my kids these rifles for their 1st birthday! obviously they don't shoot them until they are responsible enough but thanks for the Post! Didnt even think about it!
 
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No matter what,, It still stinks that the poor kid got hurt!!!!
I only hope that there is no long term damage to his hand..
no one likes to see anyone hurt, much less a young person..