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Decapping Live Primers?
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Re: Decapping Live Primers?
Because you are not striking it. Rather, you are pushing on it gently.
Because you are not striking it. Rather, you are pushing on it gently.
Re: Decapping Live Primers?
just push it slow and you should be fine.I have around 500 of them to push out of some opened blanks.but use safety glasses and hearing protection.they can be loud.
just push it slow and you should be fine.I have around 500 of them to push out of some opened blanks.but use safety glasses and hearing protection.they can be loud.
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As said slow push and you should be good. Did have one that got flipped during seating and it did go off.
As said slow push and you should be good. Did have one that got flipped during seating and it did go off.
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Hey Dan,I've decapped lots of live primers and never had a problem.Wear glasses and gloves and go slow and easy.Ear protection is a good idea,too.A military case with a crimpped in primer may be another story,never tried to do one.Just remember slow and easy. Pete
Hey Dan,I've decapped lots of live primers and never had a problem.Wear glasses and gloves and go slow and easy.Ear protection is a good idea,too.A military case with a crimpped in primer may be another story,never tried to do one.Just remember slow and easy. Pete
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Slow and easy, for sure. Do it all the time when a primer flips.
Now do you think slow and easy will work for a loaded round, with a missed primer or would you pull the bullet, and start over? Easy isn't always safe, but if slow and easy works taking it out, will it work, putting it in? On the otherhand, it only has to fail...once.
Slow and easy, for sure. Do it all the time when a primer flips.
Now do you think slow and easy will work for a loaded round, with a missed primer or would you pull the bullet, and start over? Easy isn't always safe, but if slow and easy works taking it out, will it work, putting it in? On the otherhand, it only has to fail...once.
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I'd suggest that if the press has a primer feed, that the feed be empty.
I'd suggest that if the press has a primer feed, that the feed be empty.
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The Dillon's primer feeder is out of the way when I do this.
I thought how simply dangerous priming a loaded case is on a press with a die above where the bullet would exit to. Hand prime or pull the bullet; pulling the bullet would keep holes out of the ceiling.
Wonder how many people gamble on that?
The Dillon's primer feeder is out of the way when I do this.
I thought how simply dangerous priming a loaded case is on a press with a die above where the bullet would exit to. Hand prime or pull the bullet; pulling the bullet would keep holes out of the ceiling.
Wonder how many people gamble on that?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gnfiter3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Dillon's primer feeder is out of the way when I do this.
I thought how simply dangerous priming a loaded case is on a press with a die above where the bullet would exit to. Hand prime or pull the bullet; pulling the bullet would keep holes out of the ceiling.
Wonder how many people gamble on that? </div></div>
Hell no, I wouldn't do that, I would pull the bullet. I've read that the bullet has very low velocity if it goes off outside a barrel but still don't want to take the chance on that.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gnfiter3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Dillon's primer feeder is out of the way when I do this.
I thought how simply dangerous priming a loaded case is on a press with a die above where the bullet would exit to. Hand prime or pull the bullet; pulling the bullet would keep holes out of the ceiling.
Wonder how many people gamble on that? </div></div>
Hell no, I wouldn't do that, I would pull the bullet. I've read that the bullet has very low velocity if it goes off outside a barrel but still don't want to take the chance on that.
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General Hatcher has some info in his book"Hatchers Notebook"about firing cartriges outside of a barrel.I think he laid the cartrige on a bar of soap,covered with a towel,and fired it electrically.The case explodes,brass goes everywhere,bullet moves but has no velocity to speak of.There was very little damage to the soap.Very interesting read!
I would not want to prime a loaded case,the risk is too much for the time it saves.Like Greg said,when depriming live primers,move all powder and primers away.Common sence prevails here. Pete
General Hatcher has some info in his book"Hatchers Notebook"about firing cartriges outside of a barrel.I think he laid the cartrige on a bar of soap,covered with a towel,and fired it electrically.The case explodes,brass goes everywhere,bullet moves but has no velocity to speak of.There was very little damage to the soap.Very interesting read!
I would not want to prime a loaded case,the risk is too much for the time it saves.Like Greg said,when depriming live primers,move all powder and primers away.Common sence prevails here. Pete
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Guess you guys are telling me some of what I already know. Again, the question is, wonder how many loaders, take that risk? The what happens if the round goes off outside a chamber is news, case may explode!! Hard to get away from that.
dan46n2, you have more sense than I've been known to have, but, I got the message when I thought about the pill hitting the die, and me sitting there with blood on my face.
Well, as I've said, The danger in loading is on "the newbie, and the guys who have been doing it so long; they think they know it all." Expect not to read that I screwed up by priming a loaded case.
Guess you guys are telling me some of what I already know. Again, the question is, wonder how many loaders, take that risk? The what happens if the round goes off outside a chamber is news, case may explode!! Hard to get away from that.
dan46n2, you have more sense than I've been known to have, but, I got the message when I thought about the pill hitting the die, and me sitting there with blood on my face.
Well, as I've said, The danger in loading is on "the newbie, and the guys who have been doing it so long; they think they know it all." Expect not to read that I screwed up by priming a loaded case.
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Why would you want to deprime a 'live' primer?
The only reason I can think of is that you loaded pistol primers in a rifle case, or a LR primer in pistol brass. If you are worried, pull the bullet, dump the powder, run a nylon brush into the case to ensure you got all the powder. Chamber the primed case in the rifle and with the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, fire the case. Wear hearing protection as it is a loud pop.
If the primers are corrosive, unless the brass is really exotic, like an African caliber. I would throw the brass in the trash.
The other option is to pull the bullet and dump the powder and spray WD-40 into the inside of the case and let it sit. This is not a guarantee that the primer will be 'killed' but is very likely to do so. The problem is then to thoroughly clean the inside of the case so that the WD-40 does not 'kill' the new primers.
Good luck
Jerry
Why would you want to deprime a 'live' primer?
The only reason I can think of is that you loaded pistol primers in a rifle case, or a LR primer in pistol brass. If you are worried, pull the bullet, dump the powder, run a nylon brush into the case to ensure you got all the powder. Chamber the primed case in the rifle and with the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, fire the case. Wear hearing protection as it is a loud pop.
If the primers are corrosive, unless the brass is really exotic, like an African caliber. I would throw the brass in the trash.
The other option is to pull the bullet and dump the powder and spray WD-40 into the inside of the case and let it sit. This is not a guarantee that the primer will be 'killed' but is very likely to do so. The problem is then to thoroughly clean the inside of the case so that the WD-40 does not 'kill' the new primers.
Good luck
Jerry
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I have deprimed "live" primers a couple of times, don't remember why, but no problem, lower the arm kind of slow. To go off you have hit a primer pretty, pretty hard on the proper side.
I have deprimed "live" primers a couple of times, don't remember why, but no problem, lower the arm kind of slow. To go off you have hit a primer pretty, pretty hard on the proper side.
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My brother took out a girl that had worked on her father's handloading by decapping some live primers for him. The cup of decapped primers went off and blew up in her face. Every few months an anvil would work it's way to the surface of her skin.
My brother took out a girl that had worked on her father's handloading by decapping some live primers for him. The cup of decapped primers went off and blew up in her face. Every few months an anvil would work it's way to the surface of her skin.
Re: Decapping Live Primers?
I just tried some Winchester large rifle primers.
They flattened at loads that my other primers are fine at.
I hate them now.
I will decap slowly and wear hearing protection.
I also spray lube into the cases and this may help desensitize or may not?
I just tried some Winchester large rifle primers.
They flattened at loads that my other primers are fine at.
I hate them now.
I will decap slowly and wear hearing protection.
I also spray lube into the cases and this may help desensitize or may not?
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If they are just primed cases and you are going to trash the primers, why not cycle them through the weapon and pop the primers? Set them off in the correct environment and you won't have to worry about them going off in the wrong one.
If you are not loading powder or bullet then it shouldn't cause any real stress on the case.
If they are just primed cases and you are going to trash the primers, why not cycle them through the weapon and pop the primers? Set them off in the correct environment and you won't have to worry about them going off in the wrong one.
If you are not loading powder or bullet then it shouldn't cause any real stress on the case.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If they are just primed cases and you are going to trash the primers, why not cycle them through the weapon and pop the primers? Set them off in the correct environment and you won't have to worry about them going off in the wrong one.
If you are not loading powder or bullet then it shouldn't cause any real stress on the case. </div></div>
Because then you disperse lead all over the place.
Plus the noise will scare my pets.
One of the biggest sources of lead contaminant comes from the primer.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If they are just primed cases and you are going to trash the primers, why not cycle them through the weapon and pop the primers? Set them off in the correct environment and you won't have to worry about them going off in the wrong one.
If you are not loading powder or bullet then it shouldn't cause any real stress on the case. </div></div>
Because then you disperse lead all over the place.
Plus the noise will scare my pets.
One of the biggest sources of lead contaminant comes from the primer.
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Common sense would lead you to do that OUTSIDE where the noise and contamination would not be an issue.
BTW, where do you think that lead goes when you have powder in there too? It doesn't cease to be. It's still there when you decap fired primers too.
Common sense would lead you to do that OUTSIDE where the noise and contamination would not be an issue.
BTW, where do you think that lead goes when you have powder in there too? It doesn't cease to be. It's still there when you decap fired primers too.
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I live in the city. (Minneapolis)
I try to minimize my overall lead exposure through various reloading and shooting practices.
Are you suggesting that I do not possess "common sense"?
Also:
My C6HN3O8Pb turns to C6HN3O8Au during firing but this is a secret shhhh.
I live in the city. (Minneapolis)
I try to minimize my overall lead exposure through various reloading and shooting practices.
Are you suggesting that I do not possess "common sense"?
Also:
My C6HN3O8Pb turns to C6HN3O8Au during firing but this is a secret shhhh.
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Since your turning lead to gold just transform it in place and push out the nugget and turn it in for live primers. At the current rate that would be a good deal
If you deprime on a press (a whole lot better idea than with a hammer and depriming pin) go slow and they will fall out nicely. You may wish to take the opportunity to perform some maintenance on your reloader before hand and in the process ensure you have no powder in the nooks and crannies.
Setting off a single primer is loud but with an eye to common sense and safety even in that instance it will cause you no harm as the fire /pressure will be somewhat blocked by the depriming pin and the rest will force it's way out the bottom of the case. Startling, yes. Will it blow up an empty case, no.
Cheers,
Doc
Since your turning lead to gold just transform it in place and push out the nugget and turn it in for live primers. At the current rate that would be a good deal
If you deprime on a press (a whole lot better idea than with a hammer and depriming pin) go slow and they will fall out nicely. You may wish to take the opportunity to perform some maintenance on your reloader before hand and in the process ensure you have no powder in the nooks and crannies.
Setting off a single primer is loud but with an eye to common sense and safety even in that instance it will cause you no harm as the fire /pressure will be somewhat blocked by the depriming pin and the rest will force it's way out the bottom of the case. Startling, yes. Will it blow up an empty case, no.
Cheers,
Doc
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My brother took out a girl that had worked on her father's handloading by decapping some live primers for him. The cup of decapped primers went off and blew up in her face. Every few months an anvil would work it's way to the surface of her skin. </div></div>
That's why you need to put them back in a primer tray. It's designed so that won't happen.
Put them in a cup or jar and you have an improvised hand grenade setting there. If one goes off it sets off others which set off others etc, etc, etc. Maybe the best way is to just fire them off.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My brother took out a girl that had worked on her father's handloading by decapping some live primers for him. The cup of decapped primers went off and blew up in her face. Every few months an anvil would work it's way to the surface of her skin. </div></div>
That's why you need to put them back in a primer tray. It's designed so that won't happen.
Put them in a cup or jar and you have an improvised hand grenade setting there. If one goes off it sets off others which set off others etc, etc, etc. Maybe the best way is to just fire them off.
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Some Father , what an ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!
quote=Clark]My brother took out a girl that had worked on her father's handloading by decapping some live primers for him. The cup of decapped primers went off and blew up in her face. Every few months an anvil would work it's way to the surface of her skin. [/quote]
Some Father , what an ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!
quote=Clark]My brother took out a girl that had worked on her father's handloading by decapping some live primers for him. The cup of decapped primers went off and blew up in her face. Every few months an anvil would work it's way to the surface of her skin. [/quote]
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Spray a little WD40 and there dead as a door knob
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamilton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just tried some Winchester large rifle primers.
They flattened at loads that my other primers are fine at.
I hate them now.
I will decap slowly and wear hearing protection.
I also spray lube into the cases and this may help desensitize or may not? </div></div>
Spray a little WD40 and there dead as a door knob
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamilton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just tried some Winchester large rifle primers.
They flattened at loads that my other primers are fine at.
I hate them now.
I will decap slowly and wear hearing protection.
I also spray lube into the cases and this may help desensitize or may not? </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Stoffels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Spray a little WD40 and there dead as a door knob
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamilton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just tried some Winchester large rifle primers.
They flattened at loads that my other primers are fine at.
I hate them now.
I will decap slowly and wear hearing protection.
I also spray lube into the cases and this may help desensitize or may not? </div></div> </div></div>
I'll try the WD40.
I meant to write that I wear eye protection.
If one goes off your eyes are very vulnerable.
I don't know anyone that has set one off in this manner but I'm sure that it can happen.
I always run them back through the FL sizer to uniform them and so they need to be lubed anyhow.
The trick is to do it slowly.
I've never had one that required much pressure to deprime, if I did encounter one I would cull it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Stoffels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Spray a little WD40 and there dead as a door knob
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamilton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just tried some Winchester large rifle primers.
They flattened at loads that my other primers are fine at.
I hate them now.
I will decap slowly and wear hearing protection.
I also spray lube into the cases and this may help desensitize or may not? </div></div> </div></div>
I'll try the WD40.
I meant to write that I wear eye protection.
If one goes off your eyes are very vulnerable.
I don't know anyone that has set one off in this manner but I'm sure that it can happen.
I always run them back through the FL sizer to uniform them and so they need to be lubed anyhow.
The trick is to do it slowly.
I've never had one that required much pressure to deprime, if I did encounter one I would cull it.
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