Devcon Plastic Steel 10110 changed recently?

[ToddM]

Anyone notice a difference in recent batches of Devcon Plastic steel 10110?

I had not used it in 3-4 years, and ordered some for a recent bedding job and was surprised it seemed different than what I remember in the past. Normally I use the stuff in the syringe, but picked up the 1oz tubes just because that's what was available.

What I noticed was that the dark resign was much thicker than I was used to and the white hardener much thinner. I used all of both tubes so it wasn't like they separated in the tube. In the older stuff I've used in the syringes both parts were pretty much the same consistency. Also the final mix on the newer version was thinner and ran more than I'm used to and seemed to set up quite a bit faster. Still way more than enough working time to finish the job, but an hour after I was done it was setup pretty solid and that's not how I remember the older stuff.

 

[smoothy8500]

Normally I use the stuff in the syringe, but picked up the 1oz tubes

I didn’t think the 10110 putty came in syringe or tubes. It’s way too thick to squirt out. The 10210 liquid steel is similar consistency as JB Weld.

 

[ToddM]

So that's interesting, I wonder if what comes in the syringes and small tubes is the liquid steel version (does not seem to be see below). I would say it's normally a bit thicker than JB weld but definitely thinner than the putty, I haven't used the tub/putty stuff for a long long time.

Smaller versions I've seen of the "Devcon Plastic Steel" that is thinner than the putty version. Might just be time to move to marine tex.

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Definitely seems like there's product variation for sure. Have to do some digging, I had assumed, seemingly incorrectly that the versions above were similar to the liquid 10210 version, but it appears to not be the case by the specs.

The 10110 Putty appears to have a compression strength of 8200 PSI and the Liquid 10210 of 10,200 PSI both with the same listed shrinkage and tensile strength of 2800 PSI. The two other versions list 2500/2600 PSI tensile strength, but I could find no info on shrinkage or compression strength.

So this is where the rabbit hole gets really odd.....

https://cdn.littlehardware.com/items/docs/Devcon_100053781_Specification_Sheet.pdf

The two smaller products above tube/syringe, share the same name. However, I found an old 2008 data sheet on the syringe version (#62345) that states that it does NOT have steel in the mix, and that if steel filled product is desired to use #52345 (the 2 tube version shown above) or #45209 (I could not find any info on this # related to devcon). It also indicates that it's made by permatex. That's almost 20 years ago so who knows what the difference is today. That said I have some guns bedded with the syringe version for 20+ years and seem to be holding up fine.