Dillon: Finally, a working 6mm bullet dropper!

[NiteQwill]

So, I have every type of Double Alpha Bullet Dropper die... But in my experience, none of them have ever worked well with 6mm bullets.

I load my match ammo on my Dillon 750 and wanted to automate the process (Mark 7 autodrive en route) but the bullet feeding has always been the hiccup.

Not anymore!

Collator setup: https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...king-6mm-bullet-dropper.7196608/post-11347122

Bullet Dropper Setup:

Lee Inline Bullet Die (for 6mm)

Inline Bullet Feed Dies

Inline Bullet Feed Dies

leeprecision.com

DAA MBF Dropper Assembly

Mr. Bulletfeeder Gen 1/2 - Dropper Assembly

The Dropper Assembly is needed for shooters who wish to set up a second tool-head in the same caliber, and wish to quickly transition from, say, 9mm to .38super. Or from one 9mm bullet to another. A change is needed to the collator parts, and if a 2nd tool-head is to be used on the progress...

www.doublealpha.biz

I used a 1/2" ID nylon bushing to mate the Lee dee + DAA assembly (it's press fit). Tighten the set screw.

(This setup is assuming you have the MBF... So, you may need the DAA Output tube depending on what you already have. And, of course, the MBF feeder plate)

 

[mbeavers1]

Yes! I just ran 100 with the exact same dropper. My slowest process was charging. Looks like you are dumping powder using Autotrickler?

Trying to see if I can use Staball Match HD to replace Varget so I can use the Dillon powder drop. Its a temp stable ball powder. It drops pretty decent. Now to shoot and see what it looks like.

 

[NiteQwill]

Yes! I just ran 100 with the exact same dropper. My slowest process was charging. Looks like you are dumping powder using Autotrickler?

Trying to see if I can use Staball Match HD to replace Varget so I can use the Dillon powder drop. Its a temp stable ball powder. It drops pretty decent. Now to shoot and see what it looks like.

I use a dual Ingenuity Precision setup. I can't outrun it. The IP setup is FAST.

 

[mbeavers1]

I have tried that setup too. I use the IP for single stage. I found I was waiting a lot. Still fast, but nothing like dropping. It took me about 25 min to load 100 rds, but dropping took me 9.5min and I even had a few bullet and case feeding jams in that.

Im pretty interested to see how this Staball Match HD compares to Varget. I initial load testing was ok, not quite as accurate for a match round but my barrel is breaking in and I havent done seating depth comparison. Its as advertised so far, a touch slower (31.5gr vs 29.8gr of Varget).

 

[jetsurgeon]

@NiteQwill Are you having to flair the case mouth any?

 

[NiteQwill]

@NiteQwill Are you having to flair the case mouth any?

No, I don't flare any of my rifle rounds.

 

[NiteQwill]

Got it automated with the Mark 7 Autodrive 750 Pro... Works great. Using only a single Ingenuity Precision on this quick video.

 

[mbeavers1]

@NiteQwill Are you having to flair the case mouth any?

You shouldn't need to do this with any boat tail bullets. I have belled 223 when running 55gr flat base bullets because they will fall off the case even with minor shell plate snap.

 

[Jack Master]

So, I have every type of Double Alpha Bullet Dropper die... But in my experience, none of them have ever worked well with 6mm bullets.

I load my match ammo on my Dillon 750 and wanted to automate the process (Mark 7 autodrive en route) but the bullet feeding has always been the hiccup.

Not anymore!

Bullet Dropper Setup:

Lee Inline Bullet Die (for 6mm)

Inline Bullet Feed Dies

Inline Bullet Feed Dies

leeprecision.com

DAA MBF Dropper Assembly

Mr. Bulletfeeder Gen 1/2 - Dropper Assembly

The Dropper Assembly is needed for shooters who wish to set up a second tool-head in the same caliber, and wish to quickly transition from, say, 9mm to .38super. Or from one 9mm bullet to another. A change is needed to the collator parts, and if a 2nd tool-head is to be used on the progress...

www.doublealpha.biz

I used a 1/2" ID nylon bushing to mate the Lee dee + DAA assembly (it's press fit). Tighten the set screw.

(This setup is assuming you have the MBF... So, you may need the DAA Output tube depending on what you already have. And, of course, the MBF feeder plate)

On the MBF which collator plate and drop assembly are you using? 6.5? Thanks.

 

[NiteQwill]

On the MBF which collator plate and drop assembly are you using? 6.5? Thanks.

6.5

I also bought an aftermarket ramp off eBay that helps flip the bullets. A bent piece of 10 ga wire also works too but not as nice.

 

[kriller134]

What is this?

 

[NiteQwill]

What is this?
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That's a powder funnel. I find it more useful than the area419 setup. It drops powder quicker and smoother in my experience. It uses the standard powder die with Dillon and whatever internal powder funnel you choose.

Progressive Powder Funnel

Directly funneling pre-measured powder into cases on your Dillon Precision progressive press. Change between the Dillon Powder Measure and this Funnel with little to no adjustment. Please watch the video showing basic setup and use as well as considerations to see if this is the right tool for...

entirelycrimson.com

 

[kriller134]

That's a powder funnel. I find it more useful than the area419 setup. It drops powder quicker and smoother in my experience. It uses the standard powder die with Dillon and whatever internal powder funnel you choose.

Progressive Powder Funnel

Directly funneling pre-measured powder into cases on your Dillon Precision progressive press. Change between the Dillon Powder Measure and this Funnel with little to no adjustment. Please watch the video showing basic setup and use as well as considerations to see if this is the right tool for...

entirelycrimson.com

Nice I’m using the a419 funnel on my 550. I like the look of this, but I wonder if it’s too big and will hit my dies.

 

[NiteQwill]

Nice I’m using the a419 funnel on my 550. I like the look of this, but I wonder if it’s too big and will hit my dies.

I have a 550 as well, I will admit, it's a bit tight.

 

[jetsurgeon]

I ordered one of these Lee 6mm Dropper Dies, 3D printed a bushing to go from the OD of the dropper die to the ID of the brass Mr.BF dropper. This bad boy works like a dream with 142 SMK's. My 650 is also powered by an AutoDrive.....

Thanks for pointing out this new die, I think it's a keeper!

All the best.....
J

 

[Jack Master]

6.5

I also bought an aftermarket ramp off eBay that helps flip the bullets. A bent piece of 10 ga wire also works too but not as nice.

Up and running. This will make the PRS season a lot easier! Thanks for your help.

 

[NiteQwill]

Up and running. This will make the PRS season a lot easier! Thanks for your help.
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Yessssss

 

[aviumvenator]

Yessssss

What is the reason for wearing gloves?

 

[NiteQwill]

What is the reason for wearing gloves?

HBN coated bullets are gross and get everywhere. If you touch something.

Additionally, I wear gloves during all my reloading, in general.

 

[NiteQwill]

Wanted to add to this thread:

I had issues with the DAA 6.5 collator. It just wouldn't feed bullets consistently because it would jam 2 in 1 hole.

I found an awesome 6mm collator. This gentleman basically took a request (that none exist on the market) and ran with it. Email [email protected] if you're interested in a 6mm collator.

Using the DAA orientation guide (orange thing in the picture) and a 3D printed ramp (aftermarket off eBay), it is now 100% running smoothly.

 

[jetsurgeon]

Just sent off an email to him..... Yes sometimes the 6.5 collator plate does get two in the same hole! LOL

 

[spife7980]

Just sent off an email to him..... Yes sometimes the 6.5 collator plate does get two in the same hole! LOL

Usually you have to pay extra for that!

 

[tsu45]

Are you sizing on the first one or two stations?

 

[NiteQwill]

My size to trim process. I set the dwell time to 5, allows me to catch the brass and put it straight into the Henderson.

 

[impactaddict]

how are you lubing brass to run through the Dillon case feed? Assuming some kind of spray for the outside but are you hitting the inside of the necks with something?

 

[NiteQwill]

how are you lubing brass to run through the Dillon case feed? Assuming some kind of spray for the outside but are you hitting the inside of the necks with something?

I use Hornady One Shot.

I put the brass in a cardboard box, spray, shake, wait 2 minutes, spray again, shake again, wait 3 minutes and then load into hopper.

 

[mbeavers1]

I use Hornady One Shot.

I put the brass in a cardboard box, spray, shake, wait 2 minutes, spray again, shake again, wait 3 minutes and then load into hopper.

I really should try One shot again. Ive been using lanolin/alcohol. It sized very smooth but is a bit messy and have to tumble again to remove it

 

[Jmccracken1214]

Why do you wear gloves?

 

[NiteQwill]

Why do you wear gloves?

Why not?

(All jokes aside... Exposure to chemicals is not something I like to pass onto my family.)

 

[Tokay444]

Why do you wear gloves?

To cover his hands.

 

[JR1200W3]

So, I have every type of Double Alpha Bullet Dropper die... But in my experience, none of them have ever worked well with 6mm bullets.

I load my match ammo on my Dillon 750 and wanted to automate the process (Mark 7 autodrive en route) but the bullet feeding has always been the hiccup.

Not anymore!

Collator setup: https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...king-6mm-bullet-dropper.7196608/post-11347122

Bullet Dropper Setup:

Lee Inline Bullet Die (for 6mm)

Inline Bullet Feed Dies

Inline Bullet Feed Dies

leeprecision.com

DAA MBF Dropper Assembly

Mr. Bulletfeeder Gen 1/2 - Dropper Assembly

The Dropper Assembly is needed for shooters who wish to set up a second tool-head in the same caliber, and wish to quickly transition from, say, 9mm to .38super. Or from one 9mm bullet to another. A change is needed to the collator parts, and if a 2nd tool-head is to be used on the progress...

www.doublealpha.biz

I used a 1/2" ID nylon bushing to mate the Lee dee + DAA assembly (it's press fit). Tighten the set screw.

(This setup is assuming you have the MBF... So, you may need the DAA Output tube depending on what you already have. And, of course, the MBF feeder plate)

Where did you get the nylon bushing?

 

[NiteQwill]

Where did you get the nylon bushing?

Local hardware store

 

[JR1200W3]

Local hardware store

Okay, lol.