Dirt poor rifle build shoots pretty well.

[3-0-hate]

So I put this rifle together on the absolute lowest budget that I thought was feasible. AR Stoner barrel from Midway (20" Stainless, fluted, 1/8"), Anderson lower, M&P Sport upper, Aero M-Lok hand guard, Herters cantilever mount, CMC trigger, A2 stock, etc, etc.

Before today, this rifle wouldn't hold a 1.5" group, no matter what I did loading wise. I was trying to figure out what to do with it when I came across the "True and Glue" thread in here. Well, I ordered the parts and proceeded to "True and Glue" the receiver and barrel extension. The results are surprising. This M&P Sport receiver was all kinds of terrible and took forever to get a nice even shiny ring on. Well worth the effort.

80gr Bergers over 24.3gr of Varget with a CCI 450 seemed to be a good match for this combo.

 

[Eustice]

Trueing the receiver extension is a pretty important step. If the barrel is wonky from the start then it’s not gonna get better further down the line. I don’t understand why this is a difficult step for manufacturers. It seems like you could make a very simple device to true up that extension.

 

[clcustom1911]

EXCELLENT. According to some, a 1:8 "won't stabilize" the heavies. Let them talk all they want... then start smacking steel

 

[Greg Langelius *]

AR Stoner barrels can be an unknown quantity, albeit that all my experiences with them came out all smiles.

Midway outsources their AR Stoner stuff, barrels included.

I can't say it with certainty, but my ear to the ground says that at least two sources provide AR Stoner Barrels; Bear Creek (I hear all sorts of things...), and Liberty (Satern's Button rifled entity, and this is very likely to be great news).

I limit my 5.56 heavy bullet weights to 75gr HDY HPBT-Match, but I also shoot them out of 1 24" 1:9" Savage, with fine results.

Right now, my buddy has a 24" 1:8" heavy AR Stoner 5.56 barrel; he built on it, and it's great shooter.

My barrels are a 16" 1:7 complete AR Stoner Upper, and two 6.5 Grendels.

The Grendels are a 20" 1:8" complete Heavy barreled Upper, and a 24" 1:8" heavy barrel that I assembled into an Upper (trued and glued) using AR Stoner parts exclusively. Cheaper for sure, and I have hope...

Due to sucky health issues and triple digit local daytime temps, they are unfired; but I'm sure by mid-late August the temps will be back into reasonable territory, and it looks like my health issues are doing better.

Great job on yours; wish me luck on mine.

Greg

 

[3-0-hate]

AR Stoner barrels can be an unknown quantity, albeit that all my experiences with them came out all smiles.

Midway outsources their AR Stoner stuff, barrels included.

I can't say it with certainty, but my ear to the ground says that at least two sources provide AR Stoner Barrels; Bear Creek (I hear all sorts of things...), and Liberty (Satern's Button rifled entity, and this is very likely to be great news).

I limit my 5.56 heavy bullet weights to 75gr HDY HPBT-Match, but I also shoot them out of 1 24" 1:9" Savage, with fine results.

Right now, my buddy has a 24" 1:8" heavy AR Stoner 5.56 barrel; he built on it, and it's great shooter.

My barrels are a 16" 1:7 complete AR Stoner Upper, and two 6.5 Grendels.

The Grendels are a 20" 1:8" complete Heavy barreled Upper, and a 24" 1:8" heavy barrel that I assembled into an Upper (trued and glued) using AR Stoner parts exclusively. Cheaper for sure, and I have hope...

Due to sucky health issues and triple digit local daytime temps, they are unfired; but I'm sure by mid-late August the temps will be back into reasonable territory, and it looks like my health issues are doing better.

Great job on yours; wish me luck on mine.

Greg

Good luck Greg, and Im glad your health issues are improving. I was very pleasantly surprised after I trued the receiver extension and glued the barrel in place, with how much the accuracy improved. The barrel has proven to be a shooter for sure, and the group I posted, likely would have been better, if I didnt think that it put one shot on paper and the others over the top and into the ether.

In comparison, here is a group I put downrange with a brand new Daniel Defense M4v7.. Not impressive to say the least.. I have been tinkering with this Daniel Defense for a while now, for a buddy of mine (he wanted some parts swapped to make it Cali legal) and I just cant get it to shoot better than a rack grade M4, which is a little disappointing. I tried to get the barrel off so I could true and glue it for him, but of course DD has to use a proprietary barrel nut that I ultimately didn't want to futz with.

 

[LeadZeke]

That is a common experience with DD. Mostly hype.

 

[3-0-hate]

That is a common experience with DD. Mostly hype.

I believe it after messing with this one.

 

[bfoosh006]

Pretty satisfying to see an improvement like that.

Enjoy the inexpensive "home brew" precision improvement.