Suppressors Diving into HUB. Direct threads or buy 6 QD mounts?

[zimm17]

I discovered the thread about AAC restoration and signed up to have my SDN converted to a Ranger 7. The website says it comes with a direct thread adapter for 5/8-24. Good I need that for a 6.5CR bolt gun.

Now I also need to outfit 4 hosts with 1/2"-28 threads, and 2 that need 5/8-24. Should I buy 6 quick release mounts? Or buy an additional 1/2-28 direct thread adapter and skip the QD? If I do that, maybe get some thread protectors or use my old flash hiders to protect the threads?

Realistically, I'm not swapping these in the field, but outfitting a chosen rifle to hit the range that day. I'd hate to spend $600 on mounts. I already did that with the pile of 51T adapters I have.

Another option is AAC's STAMP mount- let's me keep all my 51T's and screw on the HUB suppressor for all my AR's. Then the bolt gun gets to use the direct thread adapter for bench shooting.

If you do recommend QD, who's making the best ones right now? I haven't researched this stuff since I bought the SDN probably 10-15 years ago.

 

[hlee]

I like the Rearden/Plan B mounts and adapters.

Playing musical chairs with mounts and suppressors gets old after a while, though I still find myself doing it to some extent. It’s really nice to just grab a rifle and a suppressor and know they will fit together.

And, I think of the mount as a sacrificial set of threads. If I were to somehow bugger the threads on the mount, the barrel threading is still fine. I have seen a few (not many, but some) posts from shooters that were able to cross thread their direct thread suppressor to their barrel, then have compounding problems of buggered barrel threading and a baffle strike. Beyond that, the threading on a mount/adapter tends to be more coarse than barrel threading, which I think would tend to lessen the chances of cross threading them to each other.

The plan B mounts aren’t really “QD” like a trilug-it takes a few revolutions to seat them, but they have a taper behind the threads that does a great job of sealing the threads from the fouling. I have read that they can still carbon lock, if you shoot so much that you build up a lip of carbon behind that taper, but it hasn’t been an issue in my shooting. No tools are required to mount the can to the rifle, but I have-on occasion- needed a wrench to remove one. And, rarely, I have spun the can off of the adapter- leaving the adapter on the mount. (I grease the can/adapter interface so they don’t gall or carbon lock with use)

I prefer the Rearden mounts over the Plan B mounts because the Rearden mounts have wrench flats on their base. (The cherry bomb mounts do have a surface to mount a socket on their face) If you spin the mount off in the can, you can still spin the mount off of the suppressor. That’s not a really big deal on HUB suppressors, because you can still remove the adapter and access the Plan B mount from the other side. But, I have a Q can that is not HUB, meaning that sticking a mount w/o wrench flats becomes an ordeal.

I also have some of the YHM Phantom mounts/adapters. When they mate together as intended they; lock up tight, repeatably; are easy to remove; and are almost as QD as a trilug. But, getting a mount/adapter that ratchet together to that Goldilocks last click is luck of the draw. Of the 3-4 that I own, I don’t have 1 mount that mates perfectly with all adapters, nor 1 adapter that mates with all mounts. YHM says that being a 1/2 click off doesn’t matter because of the taper, but the can will rattle slightly on the mount, and I have an idea that is not good for precision. That said, they work well when you do find the mount/adapter combo that pair well together.

 

[jabonra]

+1 for rearden, check these out for a muzzle device haven't seen one cheaper

https://fpmgunworks.com/whistling-bunghole/

 

[MrMcCrackin]

I had a suppressor core reworked and converted to HUB last year - was in the exact same position.

The reality was that not only was it cheaper to just go Direct Thread but easier to keep track of everything.

 

[zimm17]

I had a suppressor core reworked and converted to HUB last year - was in the exact same position.

The reality was that not only was it cheaper to just go Direct Thread but easier to keep track of everything.

That's what I'm going to start with. I'm having them add a 1/2-28 direct thread-Hub adapter in addition to the 5/8-24 it comes with. That covers all my rifles. Then I can start the process of removing and selling off 6 or so 51T adapters.

If I feel the need for better engagement, I'll check out the Reardon's mentioned above.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

I compared lots of different options, since I was starting from scratch - area419, yhm, tbac, plan b, keymo, etc.

Came down to weight and cost, I was hung up on having a brake as a sacrificial baffle. I quickly got over that once I learned that is only recommended for short barrels.

Ultimately with Direct Thread is lighter, cheaper and free up internal volume in the suppressor.

If I was hell bent on a QD system I would go Area419.

 

[Sum Ting Wong]

I have both 1/2 and 5/8 direct thread adapters, but ended up going with the Rearden Atlas mount(you can run any Plan B muzzle device). It’s way easier just having muzzle devices on every rifle I want to run a can on. It would be nice if Rearden’s brakes were ever in stock…

 

[Trevor300wsm]

Direct thread. Shorter, lighter, and way cheaper. And I have no idea how all these people are “damaging” their threads to the point they are so worried about having something “protecting” them when the rifle isn’t in use.

The option I went with was to buy a suppressor for each rifle. I can’t imagine having to swap cans around all the time for so many rifles. Plus having to check zero afterwards.

 

[kthomas]

I use Rearden mounts and have been really happy with them.

 

[hlee]

Didn’t want to pay $100 per mount because it is too expensive. Decided to buy suppressors + $200 tax stamp(s) for each rifle. This is the sort of financial gymnastics I’ve come to expect on SH…

 

[zimm17]

I wish I could afford that, lol. Every few years I get into a cycle of updating all my guns and it costs a fortune. The first was swapping all the high end quad rails to Keymod, then to Mlok.... Now QD mounts....

 

[Maurygold]

Area419 here and like it. I also use surefire for gas and have cgs and dead airs for bolt

 

[roosterpig]

I’ll get flamed for this. Love my ASR mounts. My rifles also don’t see super high round counts like other folks, though. Will prob get flamed for that too

 

[kthomas]

I’ll get flamed for this. Love my ASR mounts. My rifles also don’t see super high round counts like other folks. Will prob get flamed for that too

No, if it works, it works.

I think @Terry Cross uses the ASR mounts with great success as well.

 

[roosterpig]

No, if it works, it works.

I think @Terry Cross uses the ASR mounts with great success as well.

Heyyyyy. A fellow ASR junkie!

 

[Trevor300wsm]

Didn’t want to pay $100 per mount because it is too expensive. Decided to buy suppressors + $200 tax stamp(s) for each rifle. This is the sort of financial gymnastics I’ve come to expect on SH…

“Financial gymnastics” to one person may not even be noticeable by someone else. When someone buys a rifle, they usually buy an optic for it as well. A suppressor is no different. Just an added cost. As is so commonly said here on the Hide…..”go be poor somewhere else”.

 

[Smith1]

I’ll get flamed for this. Love my ASR mounts. My rifles also don’t see super high round counts like other folks, though. Will prob get flamed for that too

Probably as much as I will saying I like the Q cherry bombs better than the Reardens . I had terrible luck with ASR loosening up on my chimera 300

 

[chevy_man]

Didn’t want to pay $100 per mount because it is too expensive. Decided to buy suppressors + $200 tax stamp(s) for each rifle. This is the sort of financial gymnastics I’ve come to expect on SH…

I buy direct mounts.

I have acquired a few cans now, but they still move around depending on the day. Only one that doesn't move is the one that's carbon locked to my match rifle right now...

 

[roosterpig]

Probably as much as I will saying I like the Q cherry bombs better than the Reardens . I had terrible luck with ASR loosening up on my chimera 300

Shun the non believer!!! Haha.