DOJ - No Charges in Freddie Gray Death - Is it riot season again already?

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BALTIMORE -- The U.S. Department of Justice won't bring federal charges against six police officers involved in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray, a young black man whose death touched off weeks of protests and unrest in Baltimore.

The officers were charged by state prosecutors after Gray's neck was broken in the back of a police transport wagon in April of 2015. The 25-year-old was handcuffed and shackled at the time, but he was unrestrained by a seat belt.
 
Yep, it's shopping season again. Let the games begin. Come On Outrage !!!!


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why was freddy arrested in the first place?

The last one was for an illegal weapon (switchblade knife)

Previously...
  • March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
  • March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
  • January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
  • January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
  • December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
  • December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
  • August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
  • January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
  • September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
  • April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
  • July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
  • March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
  • March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
  • February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
  • August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
  • August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
  • August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
  • July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)
 
The last one was for an illegal weapon (switchblade knife)

Previously...
  • March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
  • March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
  • January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
  • January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
  • December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
  • December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
  • August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
  • January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
  • September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
  • April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
  • July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
  • March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
  • March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
  • February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
  • August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
  • August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
  • August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
  • July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)


Well then,
based on his resume, it appears he was a model citizen. Probably looking at a future run for the Whitehouse
 
Well then,
based on his resume, it appears he was a model citizen. Probably looking at a future run for the Whitehouse

Mostly drug charges, doesn't seem to be that bad a dude. Never the less unfortunate he died in police custody. Unfortunate that the politicians tried a lynching on the cops, over charging them so they would no doubt get off, then the union and the special laws for police prevented the citizens from getting the full story, Stupid war on drugs claims another life.
 
You worked hard on that one, didn't you?
FUCK Freddie gray.
His possession and use charges were escalating into property and violent crimes. His destiny was to either die in a gutter by OD, get killed by another drug dealer or use, or die at the hands of the police.
Lather, rinse, repeat. He wasn't special. He wasn't different. He wasn't much of anything.
 
Mostly drug charges, doesn't seem to be that bad a dude. Never the less unfortunate he died in police custody. Unfortunate that the politicians tried a lynching on the cops, over charging them so they would no doubt get off, then the union and the special laws for police prevented the citizens from getting the full story, Stupid war on drugs claims another life.

Yeah not a bad guy at all . Possession with intent to distribute . Just poisoning another asshole who no doubt poisons his family , parents , kids . Yeah and the poisoned asshole steals for his habit . Yup buncha great guys .
There wouldn't be a war on drugs if we handed out the death sentence fot dealers . And yeah just my opinion and I pay for this shit . I pay for junkies on welfare . I pay for generational criminals . So I got a dog in the fight . Saw my brother die from drug abuse but not before ruining his son . Brothers wife drank herself to death a year after his death . Brother's son did 5or six years for armed robbery . No really great bunch .
Oh I forgot it's not the addicts or dealers fault . Nor Michael Brown's fault . Not Wasserman Schultz's fault , not Bernie's fault . Sure as fuck aint the Libs fault . All great people . I know let's suspend all the laws cause aint nobodie's fault . Mayor of Seattle has a problem , not his fault . Bill Cosby , nope not his fault . Hey while we are at it how bout restitution to Osama Bin Laden's family . Seam like a good bunch .
So I guess when some drug addict pieces o shit break in to your place and steal you shit It's all good . Seam like a good bunch .
 
Defending the guy for his character isn't quite right, the guy was a bum. But his death was wrong in a civilized country. Go take out all of the convicted murders and pedos and let them ride in the van, but wanting to kill anyone because they touched some drugs and a knife is a slippery slope. It also depends on the drugs though...
 
People like Freddie Gray are the reason we can't have nice things.
I was thinking about the US vs New Zealand and how they can buy silencers OTC, but we have to go through a shit ton of bullshit. Why?
Think about most of gun laws and the shitload of paperwork. Why do we do that? Not because legal gun owners do bad things. It's because of Freddie and his co-mune-uh-tay.
 
lf you look at gun-death statistics, the U.S. appears to lead the world.

However, if you remove the 20 largest cities from the U.S. statistics, the U.S. drops significantly... down into the bottom quarter!

And yet those cities... are mostly cities like L.A, Chicago, New York, Philly, D.C.... places where guns are either illegal or highly-regulated. And there should be NO gun crime. After all, the guns are illegal? There should't be any there?

Or is it that gun control is about control... not about guns...

I think this calls for a Velociraptor meme....

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For those of us that did not follow the matter, please bring me up to speed. As I understand it, Mr. Gray was arrested for whatever reason. While in transit in the police van, Mr Gray goes into a coma. Mr. Gray dies of complications to his spine @ a week later. The City paid out a $6.4 MM settlement in advance of the family filing suit.

I have seen this before which purports to be Mr Grays arrest and his being put into the police van:

If this is really Mr. Gray, and for those that believe that LE have done something criminally wrong - beyond a matter of negligence - what is your theory of the case?

Like it or don't, the more likely situation was that some jaded LE had an interaction with a frequently flyer. During which time he was grievously injured; and due to callousness, a dereliction of duty to the Public occurred. The consequences of which were neither intentional nor willful.
 

As I understand the story - Gray is comatose in the van - which would IMHO make this is a propaganda piece - the money shot:

Another prisoner in the van, identified as Donta Allen, initially told Baltimore investigators and a Washington Post reporter that Gray had been agitated, screaming, and banging around in the van during transportation. Allen told police and the media that he thought Gray was “intentionally trying to hurt himself.” He later recanted this statement. A search warrant application describes Gray during transportation as “irate” and that he “continued to be combative in the police wagon.”


If they had the goods they would have said it - "Donta Allen, while in the van, saw Gray intentionally slam into the side of the van and CHECK INTO A COMA.

IMHO if Donta Allen can not testify to that it is meaningless propaganda designed to shape an opinion.


Question - the video I posted that allegedly shows the authorities stuffing him in the PD van - is that legit?

TIA
 
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Question - the video I posted that allegedly shows the authorities stuffing him in the PD van - is that legit?

TIA

I don't know. Here's the caption
"Citizen video of Baltimore Police taking a man believed to be Freddie Gray into custody in the Gilmor Homes area on April 12. After being arrested the man was hospitalized in critical condition. A week later, he died."

I'm not sure how the journalists know the man died when they were not certain who he was.
 
I don't know. Here's the caption
"Citizen video of Baltimore Police taking a man believed to be Freddie Gray into custody in the Gilmor Homes area on April 12. After being arrested the man was hospitalized in critical condition. A week later, he died."

I'm not sure how the journalists know the man died when they were not certain who he was.



Not trying to be cute on this one, but didn't he allegedly have some kind of pre-existing condition/injury just prior to this? Or am I thinking of some other future College Grad?
 
Not trying to be cute on this one, but didn't he allegedly have some kind of pre-existing condition/injury just prior to this? Or am I thinking of some other future College Grad?

I believe so.

The big question in mind is whether or not the family would give the money back if they could get their beloved Freddie back?
 
People choose to harm themselves. Let them. Why should the rest of us have to live in a veritable police state to keep people from smoking pot or snorting whatever? I have people I grew up with that destroyed their lives with this shot, that was their choice, dont throw the Constitution out in the name of safety, its not going to work and shit is spinning out of control.

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Yeah not a bad guy at all . Possession with intent to distribute . Just poisoning another asshole who no doubt poisons his family , parents , kids . Yeah and the poisoned asshole steals for his habit . Yup buncha great guys .
There wouldn't be a war on drugs if we handed out the death sentence fot dealers . And yeah just my opinion and I pay for this shit . I pay for junkies on welfare . I pay for generational criminals . So I got a dog in the fight . Saw my brother die from drug abuse but not before ruining his son . Brothers wife drank herself to death a year after his death . Brother's son did 5or six years for armed robbery . No really great bunch .
Oh I forgot it's not the addicts or dealers fault . Nor Michael Brown's fault . Not Wasserman Schultz's fault , not Bernie's fault . Sure as fuck aint the Libs fault . All great people . I know let's suspend all the laws cause aint nobodie's fault . Mayor of Seattle has a problem , not his fault . Bill Cosby , nope not his fault . Hey while we are at it how bout restitution to Osama Bin Laden's family . Seam like a good bunch .
So I guess when some drug addict pieces o shit break in to your place and steal you shit It's all good . Seam like a good bunch .[/QUOTE]
 
The Libertarian vacuum theory, that the misery and suffering of the addicts and drunks never spills over into the other lane.


Tell it to Brianna. Oh, sorry. You can't. She's dead.

Tell it to her dad when he gets out of the hospital. Tell it to her mom. I'm sure they'll understand that drunks and addicts have a basic human right to destroy themselves in whatever manner they see fit, and that it doesn't affect the lives of others.

From my home town last week


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A Park View senior tragically lost her life in a car crash after being struck by an intoxicated driver in North Carolina over the weekend.

Briana Bugg, 17, of South Hill was involved in the crash while traveling with her family in the Hollister, NC area on Saturday.

Bugg was inside the vehicle with her family, including her parents Glenn and Tracy and her sister Meghann, who is currently attending James Madison University.

The family was in Hollister area en route to a JMU football game at East Carolina University when a Toyota Solara, driven by Glenn Ryland, 45, of Hollister crossed the centerline and struck the Bugg’s family vehicle, seriously injuring Briana and Glenn Bugg.

Ryland was charged with Driving While Intoxicated and driving on a revoked license following the crash. Additionally, law enforcement believes he was exceeding the speed limit at the time of the crash. Ryland’s condition was listed as stable following the crash.

A third vehicle was also involved, a Suburban, driven by Krystal Hamledge of La Crosse and occupied by four passengers. Those occupants escaped injury.

Briana was seriously injured in the incident and while she did not die at the scene, she later succumbed to her injuries and passed away.

As of Saturday evening, Glenn Bugg’s condition was listed as serious but stable.

Briana, who attended Park View High School was a member of the softball and volleyball teams, she was the President of the BETA Club and a member of the band.
 
Nice Try with the equivocating and tugging at he strings of empathy. Fact is millions are in jail because of stupid war on drugs, millions have had their lives ruined by police records for possession. Many have been killed by police and the illegal black market drug industry that is only possible because of the war on drugs. I would say legal alcohol is cause for more destruction that any of these other drugs, tobacco has killed more for sure, difference being the government collects a shit ton from those two products and used them to lever more freedoms away from us. The freedoms people are willing to give up in the name of a false safety is astounding and a clear sign our average IQ has dropped in this country.
 
It's not that he was a model citizen. It's that in the U.S. he has his rights. The fact was he went into a police van in one piece (mostly...the mental maybe wasn't there) and came out dead from a broken neck.

The police are instruments of the justice system. They do as the system dictates. They don't become executioners until the system says so.

In the case of Ms. Bugg, the law has been too lax far too long.