Dot drill surprise exercise

[one shot ST]

This is one of the exercises I did with some friends of mine, we do this exercise after a complete training day, when we are tired to see how we are able to be mentally concentrated.

distance 128 meters, only one sub MOA dot in the center, the others targets are embedded under a black paper, you have informations about them like this....target 1, 10,7 cm 9' o'clock, target 2, 14,7 cm 5 o'clock ecc. ecc.

you have limited time to do some calculations and limited time to execute the esercise, firt shot could be in the center.

this is the initial target

this is the target after exercise

I miss only one, my shoot was in the opposite direction....

I think is a good exercise for time managment and coordination skills

 

[dumbbell]

That is really sharp. I'm pretty sure i couldn't do it at the start of practice with 30 mins, much less at the end. That's a really good idea tho

 

[one shot ST]

from center put esactly a sub moa dots T1 9.1 cm 12 o'clock, T2 15.1 cm 2 o'clock, T3 7,7 cm 3 o'clock, T4 10.7 cm 5 o'clock, T5 9,2 cm 7 o'clock, T6 11,8 cm 9 o'clock, T7 6,7 cm 11 o'clock, T8 4,8 cm 6 o'clock..... I've put a compass rose to identify esactly the target locations.

time 12 minutes to do calculations, 3 minute to execute exercise, my time was 10 minutes for calculations and 2'.30" for exercise, but I did all alone.

if you work in a team you can use 6 minutes for calculations and 1'.30" for exercise

 

[AZ.noob]

THAT is super cool!

I'm going to try that drill. I don't see why I couldn't do that by myself... make the target, measure/log the data, use a stopwatch and go? What do you think?

 

[s a m]

I love to see innovation like this. Especially if you dial for some impacts and hold for others, builds faith in your equipment and your math. I think I will try something like this. Thanks for the post.

 

[bh-ltr]

I like this idea... I think I'll make up a PDF of a few test drills and a few different instruction sheets and post it up for others to use.

~Brett

 

[Fred @ Bison Tactical]

tag for later - great idea

 

[bh-ltr]

Well if people want to help me out. Double check my numbers. I'm sure I've got a few things wrong in this exercise.

Links to the targets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/A2.pdf
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/B2.pdf
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/C2.pdf
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/D2.pdf
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/E2.pdf

Data to be checked:
Measurements: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/Measurements.txt
Mil Corrections 100y: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/Mil Corrections 100y.txt
Mil Corrections 200y:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/Mil Corrections 200y.txt
MOA Corrections 100y: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/MOA Corrections 100y.txt

I have files already created that have only the center aiming point with the target designator in the corner. Once we have things all cleaned up I'll put it all together into a single pdf file and put it up for any and everyone to have.

Later I plan to do a set of corrections for use at 200 yards. I also plan on doing a set of corrections that will give o'clock types of corrections. Also plan on doing a set of instructions where some inches and mil and moa are mixed together. i'm thinking that I may have to change things a bit or I'll have to remove my turret and then replace it raised a bit on my S&B as currently I only have 5 clicks below my zero before I hit the stop. I wish I could get a few more in there but I don't think its something that can be done I think its fixed.

If anyone wants to draw up shooting instructions for each of the targets and post them I'll double check them and add them to the file!

I plan on going to the range tomorrow with a friend and I'm not sure if I'll have time to give this a try or not but if so I'll try and dial the mil corrections around and see how it comes out.

Thanks for any and all help

~Brett

Edit: Getting the values for 200y done now. Posted the mil ones so far. I hate thinking in quarters so not looking forward to doing the MOA one.

 

[one shot ST]

hello I do in this way, I put a compass in the center ( see my first paper ) because is easy to check direction..... for example target at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o clock are very easy to find, if you do not have elevation you can use the reticle to hold.

but if the target is at 5 o clock .... you have to be very accurate, because you have to use sin and cos for that distance ..

example target 2 is at 5 clock 12,5 cm from center at 120 meters, 5 o'clock=300 degress ... sin300= .866 x 12.5 = 10.75 cm = .9 MIL down

cos300=.5 x 12.5 = 6.25 cm = 0.52 MIL right

 

[bh-ltr]

I found a mistake in the mil corrections for target A. I uploaded a new version of the file with the corrections in place. I also figured out that I'm going to need to make the target designator for the front sheet a good bit bigger. I also think that an extra blank sheet for people to mark down the number of each shot and where it fell will be a good training aid for some who aren't going to get most of them correct. I even made a few dialing errors even though I could see all the targets right in front of me. Particularly when the next one for me to shoot at only had an elevation change I forgot to zero out the windage once or twice. oops.

~Brett

 

[OneShotJim]

Thanks for putting these together bh-ltr ! I'll try to test some at the range tomorrow. Should be fun to just shoot mil holds. Will let you know how it goes.

 

[bh-ltr]

Thanks for putting these together bh-ltr ! I'll try to test some at the range tomorrow. Should be fun to just shoot mil holds. Will let you know how it goes.

If ya can try and shoot the D and E ones I've not had a chance to try those yet. I know that A has a problem in the measurements and the MOA table. I've just not corrected the measurement or the MOA tables yet. Going to be at the range here soon but I'll be playing with my new Magnetospeed and getting my velocities matched up so that I can go to a new batch/brand of primer. Can't buy my normal primer and I've got 5000 of this new one so I better get used to it.

~Brett

 

[OneShotJim]

Just printed out D & E to try tomorrow. Do you have a sheet w/just the center dot? Thanks!

 

[bh-ltr]

Just printed out D & E to try tomorrow. Do you have a sheet w/just the center dot? Thanks!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/D.pdf
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1493706/Suprise Dot Test/E.pdf

 

[thrusty]

Great idea - nice work btw. Will give this a try.

 

[stoney15]

This looks fun!! Thanks

 

[MosesTheTank]

Tag for later. That is one wicked drill