Hey guys, im new to the site and wanted to say hi and ask a quick question. With a LR-308 what scope, trigger, and anything else can I get decent enough accuracy to hunt White-Tail at 200-500 yards? Its for hunting open fields in Kansas and Ive injured too many deer with a smaller caliber so just picked up this rifle. Thanks in advance.
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DPMS LR-308
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Re: DPMS LR-308
Sounds to me like marksmanship may be a bigger issue than the gun.
If you cant hit a 6 inch dot on paper at 300, dont try it on deer. The trigger and the scope wont make you a better shot. Out of the box, that gun should be more than accurate enough.
Sounds to me like marksmanship may be a bigger issue than the gun.
If you cant hit a 6 inch dot on paper at 300, dont try it on deer. The trigger and the scope wont make you a better shot. Out of the box, that gun should be more than accurate enough.
Re: DPMS LR-308
As Super Bee said above, it's all about marksmanship. That rifle is only as accurate as the shooter is.
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As Super Bee said above, it's all about marksmanship. That rifle is only as accurate as the shooter is.
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Re: DPMS LR-308
I realize that marksmanship matters more than the rifle. And I'll be honest, I dont think I am a great shooter. The Deer I have injured in Kansas were well placed shots but I was hunting with a .243 at 300 yards or greater. It just didnt have the power to fataly wound a 250lb. whitetail. I plan on taking some marksmanship classes, just wanted to know what type of scopes and triggers people like for the 300-500 yard mark when I do learn how to properly shoot.
I realize that marksmanship matters more than the rifle. And I'll be honest, I dont think I am a great shooter. The Deer I have injured in Kansas were well placed shots but I was hunting with a .243 at 300 yards or greater. It just didnt have the power to fataly wound a 250lb. whitetail. I plan on taking some marksmanship classes, just wanted to know what type of scopes and triggers people like for the 300-500 yard mark when I do learn how to properly shoot.
Re: DPMS LR-308
I use a LR .308 and have the Rock River Stage 2 trigger on it. As for a hunting scope I use the Horus Hawk on the LR .308. It has mil reticle and does awesome from zero to 600 yards. I set a 300 yard zero and then there is NO DIALING Just hold overs or unders for 0 to 200yards with the mil hash marks, and I always hold mils for wind I never dial with this set up for hunting. Badger Rings and Base a must imho. Also pay attention to what ammo you are using. What may work well for targets might not always drop that deer as quick, so choose a good hunting round made to expand and dump energy into the deer. GOOD LUCK!!
I use a LR .308 and have the Rock River Stage 2 trigger on it. As for a hunting scope I use the Horus Hawk on the LR .308. It has mil reticle and does awesome from zero to 600 yards. I set a 300 yard zero and then there is NO DIALING Just hold overs or unders for 0 to 200yards with the mil hash marks, and I always hold mils for wind I never dial with this set up for hunting. Badger Rings and Base a must imho. Also pay attention to what ammo you are using. What may work well for targets might not always drop that deer as quick, so choose a good hunting round made to expand and dump energy into the deer. GOOD LUCK!!
Re: DPMS LR-308
I like iron sights and a factory trigger for that range.
But if I use a scope, I prefer a lower-powered one, like around 4x for that range (for field of view and less perceived "wobble"), and I really prefer a military 2-stage trigger, set right around 5-6 pounds, for field use (RRA's 2-stage is a good one for the AR).
Just my preferences. Everybody will have theirs. None of this really matters, as just about any center fire rifle with any sights, any trigger, and any ammo will shoot well enough to get a kill shot on a deer at 500 yards. Your DPMS certainly will no matter how it is set up. The software counts a lot more than the hardware in this game.
If you want a little software upgrade that will give you all the tools you need to shoot kill zone-sized groups out to 500 yards, come to one of our Appleseed marksmanship clinics in Oklahoma. It is definitely the best bang-for-your-buck rifle marksmanship training you will find anywhere. It costs $70 for a weekend clinic, but that covers all the fundamentals of rifle marksmanship, and you will hear some good Revolutionary War history that you never heard in school, too.
I'm sorry I don't currently have any events on the schedule, but we will be holding them regularly all through the coming year at Afton, which is very close to Broken Arrow. I am going to try to call our host range today and get one set up for January or February. If you are in Kansas a lot, they have shoots up there regularly at Eureka and Pittsburg. They have a great crew of instructors as well.
Just keep an eye on the schedule and I promise I will have a lineup of Oklahoma events posted soon: www.appleseedinfo.org
I like iron sights and a factory trigger for that range.
But if I use a scope, I prefer a lower-powered one, like around 4x for that range (for field of view and less perceived "wobble"), and I really prefer a military 2-stage trigger, set right around 5-6 pounds, for field use (RRA's 2-stage is a good one for the AR).
Just my preferences. Everybody will have theirs. None of this really matters, as just about any center fire rifle with any sights, any trigger, and any ammo will shoot well enough to get a kill shot on a deer at 500 yards. Your DPMS certainly will no matter how it is set up. The software counts a lot more than the hardware in this game.
If you want a little software upgrade that will give you all the tools you need to shoot kill zone-sized groups out to 500 yards, come to one of our Appleseed marksmanship clinics in Oklahoma. It is definitely the best bang-for-your-buck rifle marksmanship training you will find anywhere. It costs $70 for a weekend clinic, but that covers all the fundamentals of rifle marksmanship, and you will hear some good Revolutionary War history that you never heard in school, too.
I'm sorry I don't currently have any events on the schedule, but we will be holding them regularly all through the coming year at Afton, which is very close to Broken Arrow. I am going to try to call our host range today and get one set up for January or February. If you are in Kansas a lot, they have shoots up there regularly at Eureka and Pittsburg. They have a great crew of instructors as well.
Just keep an eye on the schedule and I promise I will have a lineup of Oklahoma events posted soon: www.appleseedinfo.org
Re: DPMS LR-308
When I had my LR-308 I had a Timmney trigger and a 10X Super Sniper scope. Nice setup. The stock trigger, horrendous.
When I had my LR-308 I had a Timmney trigger and a 10X Super Sniper scope. Nice setup. The stock trigger, horrendous.
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Thanks guys for the input. Much appreciated. I cant wait to start getting it all together and putting rounds down range with it. It just makes my ammo budget that much more....
Thanks guys for the input. Much appreciated. I cant wait to start getting it all together and putting rounds down range with it. It just makes my ammo budget that much more....
Re: DPMS LR-308
Check out the JP Enterprise triggers. Perfect for what you're describing and not the most expensive thing out there either.
Check out the JP Enterprise triggers. Perfect for what you're describing and not the most expensive thing out there either.
Re: DPMS LR-308
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MWilliams96</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I realize that marksmanship matters more than the rifle. And I'll be honest, I dont think I am a great shooter. The Deer I have injured in Kansas were well placed shots but I was hunting with a .243 at 300 yards or greater. It just didnt have the power to fataly wound a 250lb. whitetail. I plan on taking some marksmanship classes, just wanted to know what type of scopes and triggers people like for the 300-500 yard mark when I do learn how to properly shoot. </div></div>
This still does not matter if I had the same gun the animals would have fallen. Its what you thought were great placed shots still didn't down an animal because they were bad placed shots. I have downed elk at over three hundred yards with a .270 Please just learn to shoot already.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MWilliams96</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I realize that marksmanship matters more than the rifle. And I'll be honest, I dont think I am a great shooter. The Deer I have injured in Kansas were well placed shots but I was hunting with a .243 at 300 yards or greater. It just didnt have the power to fataly wound a 250lb. whitetail. I plan on taking some marksmanship classes, just wanted to know what type of scopes and triggers people like for the 300-500 yard mark when I do learn how to properly shoot. </div></div>
This still does not matter if I had the same gun the animals would have fallen. Its what you thought were great placed shots still didn't down an animal because they were bad placed shots. I have downed elk at over three hundred yards with a .270 Please just learn to shoot already.
Re: DPMS LR-308
Get you a trigger and a scope to your liking for the LR and go to town.
BUT a quality 6mm Bullet delivered to the boiler room of a 250 lb whitetail, via 243 win, @ 300 yards is fatal 100% of the time.
Wrong bullets or poor shot placement will not be cured by the 308.
Get you a trigger and a scope to your liking for the LR and go to town.
BUT a quality 6mm Bullet delivered to the boiler room of a 250 lb whitetail, via 243 win, @ 300 yards is fatal 100% of the time.
Wrong bullets or poor shot placement will not be cured by the 308.
Re: DPMS LR-308
Almost all of the LR-308's right out of the box will be accurate enough to achieve what you want in the hands of an accurate shooter. So no matter what other parts you put on it it will still be accurate enough to do the job, do not put a cheap scope on the gun or this last time could be wrong.
Now we are left with the driver and I think that is the problem, a 243 is more than adequate to kill a deer when you hit the vitals at the ranges you refer to. I would guess one of the following two things happened, the shot was not well placed or you were not able to track the deer. The deer that I have shot with the 243 did not have impressive bloodtrails, but had massive damage to the heart and lungs.
Practice, practice and then practice some more and this will do far more to increase your success than whatever gun you use.
Remember as a sportsman you have a responsibility to make clean kills on the animals you choose to shoot.
wade
Almost all of the LR-308's right out of the box will be accurate enough to achieve what you want in the hands of an accurate shooter. So no matter what other parts you put on it it will still be accurate enough to do the job, do not put a cheap scope on the gun or this last time could be wrong.
Now we are left with the driver and I think that is the problem, a 243 is more than adequate to kill a deer when you hit the vitals at the ranges you refer to. I would guess one of the following two things happened, the shot was not well placed or you were not able to track the deer. The deer that I have shot with the 243 did not have impressive bloodtrails, but had massive damage to the heart and lungs.
Practice, practice and then practice some more and this will do far more to increase your success than whatever gun you use.
Remember as a sportsman you have a responsibility to make clean kills on the animals you choose to shoot.
wade
Re: DPMS LR-308
I have a RRA 2 stage in my lr308 and a Bushnell 3-9x40 with mildot ret in it. I killed a deer at about fifty yards with it this season and, I can ring a steel plate at 400 using the mils for hold over.
I have a RRA 2 stage in my lr308 and a Bushnell 3-9x40 with mildot ret in it. I killed a deer at about fifty yards with it this season and, I can ring a steel plate at 400 using the mils for hold over.
Re: DPMS LR-308
hey, when you look at triggers, consider triggerwork.net for a tune up on the factory one for a decent price. he says let him know its for a 308. but everybody loves his work on a factory trigger. it may get you by before you spend $150 and up on other stuff
hey, when you look at triggers, consider triggerwork.net for a tune up on the factory one for a decent price. he says let him know its for a 308. but everybody loves his work on a factory trigger. it may get you by before you spend $150 and up on other stuff
Re: DPMS LR-308
I have an 18" LR-308 with a Rock River 2 stage trigger. It is quite accurate with 175gr match bullets and 168-175gr hunting bullets. For hunting, I use a Trijicon 3-9 AccuPoint which is a great hunting optic. Especially if you expect to engage moving targets.
I have an 18" LR-308 with a Rock River 2 stage trigger. It is quite accurate with 175gr match bullets and 168-175gr hunting bullets. For hunting, I use a Trijicon 3-9 AccuPoint which is a great hunting optic. Especially if you expect to engage moving targets.
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Agree.. trigger time, trigger time, trigger time. I'm not saying this is the OP's issue, but I'll pass on a recent encounter with a friend of mine that rings home. This guy recently went slug hunting for the first time. Used a gun he never shot before other than to sight in with 3 rounds. Told me the horror stories of mameing serval deer b/c we was a horrible shot. Shot at 7, hit 3 (he thinks) and found one with almost 20rds gone in the end. You do the math. I about smacked him when he got done telling me the story. That gives hunters a bad name (if you call that hunting). I've seen this a lot with guys that go hunt once a year or every other year and don't understand how their tool works and ends up being a cluster. Even when hunting.. practice is required with your tool to be efficient and humane.
Agree.. trigger time, trigger time, trigger time. I'm not saying this is the OP's issue, but I'll pass on a recent encounter with a friend of mine that rings home. This guy recently went slug hunting for the first time. Used a gun he never shot before other than to sight in with 3 rounds. Told me the horror stories of mameing serval deer b/c we was a horrible shot. Shot at 7, hit 3 (he thinks) and found one with almost 20rds gone in the end. You do the math. I about smacked him when he got done telling me the story. That gives hunters a bad name (if you call that hunting). I've seen this a lot with guys that go hunt once a year or every other year and don't understand how their tool works and ends up being a cluster. Even when hunting.. practice is required with your tool to be efficient and humane.
