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Rifle Scopes Elcan Specter 1.5-6 questions

30calDeath

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I currently am in on the group buy for the SWFA 1-6x and I have a Spuhr cantilever mount ready to mount. I have been looking at the Elcan and I intrigued. There is a guy selling one for a good deal and I could always pull out of the group buy and sell off the Spuhr. I do not know much about the Elcan but do know that it is made by Raytheon so its is of very high quality. Also its either 1.5x or 6 no in between. This would be going on my 16" REPR for CQB to about 700 yards FYI.
 
Re: Elcan Specter 1.5-6 questions

I love the idea of the Elcan. I mean, who really uses anything but 1X and the max mag on a short/medium range scope?

I just can't afford it. Which is why I'm in on the SWFA 1-6X buy as well.

I use an 8X optic on my 600 yard gun, and it's at the edge of useability. Things get pretty small at 6X and 700 yards.
 
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The Elcan 1-4 makes sense to me(I liked mine a lot but it was heavy!). I dont know if I feel the 1.5-6 as usefull but its just my non expert opinion. I think the gap between 1.5 and 6 leaves you to high or to low in the ranges I most commonly shoot at. I leave my variable 1.5-6 set at around 3x and this gives me the ability to not need to change mag from 30 to 250 yds and remain quick and accurate. And then having the ability to dial up or down for the less common shots(for me) is there if I need it.
 
Re: Elcan Specter 1.5-6 questions

My sense is that the range you are interested in is ideal for the Elcan 1.5-6x. Then again, it depends on how precise you want to be. The reticle's red dot is 1.5 MOA at 6x, and is 6 MOA at 1.5x (ie SFP). You won't use the red dot past 200 yds as the optic runs on holdovers. Up close, the red dot with two eyes open works well for me. Some mount an additional MRD on top for the up close quick stuff. I tried this and it is fast, but it leaves the MRD very exposed to getting hammered.

You would need to figure out how your rifle and preferred load relate to the calibration of the reticle. I wouldn't count on being more precise than 2 MOA from 400 to 700 yds unless you invest in fine tuning your holdovers and have time to make the shot.

Some dislike the ARMS mounts; I've had no problems but have not subjected mine to intense field conditions. Also no problems returning to zero when remounting, and, no issues with a zero shift going from 1.5x to 6x. The levers mate fine to the POF rail, but there are some new adjustable levers on the market that allow you to adjust the tension if needed.

It's fat, mounts high on my POF, and needs an adjustable cheek piece.

Eye relief is 2.75", so BUIS may not fit behind it depending on your rail, LOP, lankiness of neck, etc.

The glass is extraordinarily clear, field of view is huge, exit pupil is 8mm.

For my purposes, the Elcan is uniquely effective. I can't say that it is a better solution than the SWFA as that depends on how, and what, you shoot.
 
Re: Elcan Specter 1.5-6 questions

I can't answer on the 1.5-6, but have the 1-4 on a 6920. It is a phenomenal optic! Great glass and I really like the "mechanical" elevation & windage. The ARMS mount has never failed, and is repeatable, though I have only had it on and off about 50 times for cleaning the upper and switching between two rifles. I do not miss "between" 1 and 4. 1 or 4 does me fine. Hope this helps a little.

Kevin
 
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How does the 1.5 vs the 1 do? I say this because the 1.5 isnt a true 1x, so I am not sure how the 1 to 1.5x compare. NOt so sure I like that ARMS mount, is that the only thing currently out to mount the Elcan to the rail?
 
Re: Elcan Specter 1.5-6 questions

I've used both the 1.5-6x and the 1-4x. There is a difference with the 1.5, but it is slight and does not confound your sight picture. I am rt handed, left eye dominant, so I have no issues at all with the 1.5x. There is a new adjustable ARMS lever, the MK II, that you can get from ARMS, Inc. to replace the Elcan's levers. You can fine tune the tension, and the levers are a bit more robust.
 
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We used them on our MK48's. They took beatings and kept going. Never had a single problem with them at all. It worked great for this application, and it would fill the role of CQM/mid range work well.

Not a fan of ARMS mounts, but we didn't encounter any issues with ours.