Entry level custom actions.

[jcmullis2]

I’m shopping around for a custom long action that will accept remage barrels and cost less than a $1000. PT&G has a B52 model listed and a blueprinted Remington 700 for around $800 after a couple of add ons. I don’t know if either accepts remage barrels but maybe someone here knows. What’s y’all’s experience with PT&G’s b52 action or their blueprinted 700’s? Is there any other actions that fit my budget and accepts remage style barrels?
I appreciate everyone’s input

 

[Supersubes]

I wouldn’t consider either of those before a bighorn origin, or defiance tenacity. The bighorn will take a Savage prefit, or a shouldered prefit. The tenacity will take a remage prefit or a shouldered prefit.

 

[Steel head]

I wouldn’t consider either of those before a bighorn origin, or defiance tenacity. The bighorn will take a Savage prefit, or a shouldered prefit. The tenacity will take a remage prefit or a shouldered prefit.

 

[jcmullis2]

I wouldn’t consider either of those before a bighorn origin, or defiance tenacity. The bighorn will take a Savage prefit, or a shouldered prefit. The tenacity will take a remage prefit or a shouldered prefit.

Thank you for your input. I just looked at both online and I’m leaning towards the defiance tenacity. Do you know if the included bolt is complete or is it just a bolt body? I’m just looking for any hidden costs? Thanks again

 

[Landon4]

The tenacity is a complete action you won’t need anything else for it I’m running one of the older ones that didn’t have the integral lug, it’s chambered in 6.5 creed so it’s a short action not long but it has been an excellent action.

 

[Supersubes]

The tenacity is a complete action you won’t need anything else for it I’m running one of the older ones that didn’t have the integral lug, it’s chambered in 6.5 creed so it’s a short action not long but it has been an excellent action.

 

[jcmullis2]

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Thanks for the info. I want a long action to get a little more room than the short action has for 6.5 cm ammo, and to give me more options. The long action tenacity listed on their website indicates I have a choice between a 30-06 bolt face or magnum. I thought the 06 was the same bolt face as the 308 but when I checked I found mixed information. Some places say they’re the same size and others say the 06 is .004 smaller. That’s one of those things I’m glad I realized beforehand. What’s your thoughts? Do you reload and if so does the short action limit you in bullet seating depth.

 

[Steel head]

Thanks for the info. I want a long action to get a little more room than the short action has for 6.5 cm ammo, and to give me more options. The long action tenacity listed on their website indicates I have a choice between a 30-06 bolt face or magnum. I thought the 06 was the same bolt face as the 308 but when I checked I found mixed information. Some places say they’re the same size and others say the 06 is .004 smaller. That’s one of those things I’m glad I realized beforehand. What’s your thoughts? Do you reload and if so does the short action limit you in bullet seating depth.

It is the same boltface.
For 6.5 I’d personally do a short action.
You could do a long action if you want.

 

[Maxduty]

Trued Remington actions will take Remage barrels. Bueprinted ones will not unless the thread on the barrel are oversize.

 

[jcmullis2]

I believe they’re the same also. I think they just listed it like they did for those who might not know anything other than they want something they can use for their 06 family of cartridges. That said I’m gonna call and verify before I order. I appreciate your input. Thanks

 

[Landon4]

I have no issue with ammo for my 6.5 creed in a short action tenacity using magpul ai mags. I mainly shoot 140 and 147 hornady eldm factory ammo but have shot some different ammo from cooper creek including the longer 153 a-tips with no issues.

 

[Supersubes]

Thanks for the info. I want a long action to get a little more room than the short action has for 6.5 cm ammo, and to give me more options. The long action tenacity listed on their website indicates I have a choice between a 30-06 bolt face or magnum. I thought the 06 was the same bolt face as the 308 but when I checked I found mixed information. Some places say they’re the same size and others say the 06 is .004 smaller. That’s one of those things I’m glad I realized beforehand. What’s your thoughts? Do you reload and if so does the short action limit you in bullet seating depth.

Dont do a long action. The creedmoor doesn’t need more room.

 

[jcmullis2]

Dont do a long action. The creedmoor doesn’t need more room.

That’s good to know. I reload but haven’t loaded anything for a 6.5cm. I’ve just read a few things from others that said their reloads wouldn’t fit in their mags or blind mags when they seated their bullets out a bit to increase accuracy. So you haven’t experienced this when reloading 6.5cm or are you just running factory stuff?

 

[Steel head]

That’s good to know. I reload but haven’t loaded anything for a 6.5cm. I’ve just read a few things from others that said their reloads wouldn’t fit in their mags or blind mags when they seated their bullets out a bit to increase accuracy. So you haven’t experienced this when reloading 6.5cm or are you just running factory stuff?

With long OAL mags common today even my 260 doesn’t have that problem.
6.5CM maybe in some AR mags Could have that issue.

 

[Landon4]

This is a pic of a 153 a-tip 6.5 creed in a magpul ai mag. There’s still some room.

 

[Steel head]

This is a pic of a 153 a-tip 6.5 creed in a magpul ai mag. There’s still some room.

And that’s not a roomy magazine

 

[jcmullis2]

With long OAL mags common today even my 260 doesn’t have that problem.
6.5CM maybe in some AR mags Could have that issue.

I just read something along those lines. I’m looking at using the aic mags in krg bravo chassis for this build. I’m pretty sure the short action will work just fine. Thanks

 

[Landon4]

And that’s not a roomy magazine

Yeah a metal one would have more, there’s not a lot of room left but a little bit lol.

 

[jcmullis2]

Yeah a metal one would have more, there’s not a lot of room left but a little bit lol.

There’s plenty of room in that mag of yours. I’d have no problems using those. I’m not gonna be shooting competition or anything like that. I do on occasion wager a few bucks but usually it’s just bragging rights. I believe most of a rifles accuracy comes from the barrel so I need to get that right too. I’m leaning towards the remage criterion barrels but everything is still in the planning phase. Which brand barrel are you using and what size groups are you getting?

 

[Landon4]

This one has a 24” bartlein 1-8 twist 5r barrel, with factory hornady ammo I could get around 3/4 moa sometimes a little better. Just curious why your wanting to do a remage especially since the new tenacity can do shouldered prefits, I know proof is doing steel barrel prefits for the defiance ruckus action for $479 thru Altus you could possibly check around and go that route.

 

[jcmullis2]

This one has a 24” bartlein 1-8 twist 5r barrel, with factory hornady ammo I could get around 3/4 moa sometimes a little better. Just curious why your wanting to do a remage especially since the new tenacity can do shouldered prefits, I know proof is doing steel barrel prefits for the defiance ruckus action for $479 thru Altus you could possibly check around and go that route.

The truth of the matter is mainly lack of knowledge and not wanting my rifle sitting at the gunsmith for weeks. The ease of changing barrels and price of the remage style barrels appeal to me. Can you put the same prefit barrel on different actions? This type of thing is new to me.

 

[b6graham]

id take a shouldered barrel every day of the week over a barrel nut/remage/savage prefit.

don't have to mess with gauges if you buy from any decent smith and why would i want to get rid of free barrel weight going from a 1.25" to 1.06 shank diameter

 

[Steel head]

I run a bunch of barrel nuts.
My barrels are Shilen and Brux.

 

[jcmullis2]

I don’t know but it would seem to me that a shoulder prefit couldn’t be taken off one action and put on a entirely different action unless both actions had the exact same specs and both recoil lugs were exactly the same specs. If that’s the case then I couldn’t take the prefit barrel off my precision rig when my groups start to open up and put it on a beat around rig that I drag through the swamps to hunt with? Am I missing something?

 

[Landon4]

You would need the same action with a shouldered prefit, I would prefer the prefit but I do run several rifles with a barrel nut without issue.

 

[Steel head]

I don’t know but it would seem to me that a shoulder prefit couldn’t be taken off one action and put on a entirely different action unless both actions had the exact same specs and both recoil lugs were exactly the same specs. If that’s the case then I couldn’t take the prefit barrel off my precision rig when my groups start to open up and put it on a beat around rig that I drag through the swamps to hunt with? Am I missing something?

If both rifles had the same action and those actions were consistent enough you could.

Taking any decent action And slapping a shouldered or nut prefit barrel from known sources generally is gonna be a great shooter.

 

[jcmullis2]

If both rifles had the same action and those actions were consistent enough you could.

Taking any decent action And slapping a shouldered or nut prefit barrel from known sources generally is gonna be a great shooter.

I’m thinking it’s pretty unlikely that the defiance tenacity I’m leaning towards will be anywhere close to the old Remington action I have. I’m hoping to get every drop of life from the barrels I buy. I figure a 1-1.5 moa barrel has no business on a precision rig but would be just fine for an old hunting rig. It also seems like people on eBay and other sites grab up used remage style barrels. Whereas a used barrel that needs gunsmithing wouldn’t be worth the expense of shipping. Just a couple of ways for me to offset some of the expense. Do you know if a shouldered barrel actually shoots better? If it does that would definitely change things . I appreciate your help with this. Thanks

 

[Steel head]

I’m thinking it’s pretty unlikely that the defiance tenacity I’m leaning towards will be anywhere close to the old Remington action I have. I’m hoping to get every drop of life from the barrels I buy. I figure a 1-1.5 moa barrel has no business on a precision rig but would be just fine for an old hunting rig. It also seems like people on eBay and other sites grab up used remage style barrels. Whereas a used barrel that needs gunsmithing wouldn’t be worth the expense of shipping. Just a couple of ways for me to offset some of the expense. Do you know if a shouldered barrel actually shoots better? If it does that would definitely change things . I appreciate your help with this. Thanks

group from a barrel running a nut

 

[Landon4]

There’s a guy in the sales section that has quite a bit of remage barrels for sale, I recently bought a 223 from him but haven’t got it together yet. I e got a 22 creedmoor remage on a trued up rem action and it shoots great easily under an inch at 100yds, I haven’t put but 30rds thru it so I haven’t got much info on it.

 

[cm1021]

If you're wanting to go barrel nut I would look at getting an origin action and then get in touch with NSS. I have a shouldered prefit coming from preferred barrel blanks to see.how they do. With the origin actions the tolerances are tight enough that a smith can turn up a shouldered prefit and it will headspace. All actions are held to that tolerance. You can swap from one origin action to 10 others and they should all headspace.

 

[jcmullis2]

There’s a guy in the sales section that has quite a bit of remage barrels for sale, I recently bought a 223 from him but haven’t got it together yet. I e got a 22 creedmoor remage on a trued up rem action and it shoots great easily under an inch at 100yds, I haven’t put but 30rds thru it so I haven’t got much info on it.

I believe I came across his post. He’s selling ER Shaw remage barrels for about $250 each. Damn good price at about half the money of others. I’ll probably go ahead and grab one and see how she does. I don’t know how a person could go wrong at that price. Can you pay online or will I have to mail him a money order? Thanks for your help

 

[cm1021]

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