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Range Report Factory .308 Subsonic

RollingThunder51

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I had the opportunity to shoot the new .308 Subsonic ammo from AWC. The ammo is part of a larger collection of standard and subsonic rounds currently being offered by them. For me, to be able to draw any quality subsonic rounds from a factory box that I can have confidence in is a luxury. These rounds were really very nice indeed. The .308 Subs have a flat nosed 170 grain loaded into all new brass. They clock at muzzle at 1071, just shy of supersonic with the foot pounds calculating in somewhere near 432 foot/pounds at the muzzle . At 100 yards, the velocity slows to 938 and the foot pounds drop to 332. As you might imagine, by 200 yards velocity is only 850ish and energy is just shy of 300 ft/lbs. So, in manner of speaking, we have less energy at 100 yards than a supersonic .45 acp round. No surprise that the actually useful range is from 50 to 100 yards.

What was surprising was two things. First the sound through a new Thundertrap TI can, in XL (300 Winmag length or an extra chamber set) was nothing sort of astonishing. A low tone air bleed, so quiet as to cause one wearing plugs and looking through a pair of binocs to say "let me know when you're ready to go" long after the round went down range. In a bolt gun, it is quieter than a suppressed .22 because the frequency is so damn low, like a slow baritone air release. Quieter than a pellet gun. Second, these are really good looking, well finished rounds.

Accuracy came in at 1.47" at 100 yards, moderate breeze. I would think that this is about what one should expect. For those fortunate enough to have a great can, the remaining sonic crack is always present, coming back through the woods. When that disappears, and there is no projectile noise, no action noise, only the terminal noise and all else is quiet, well you start to look around to ask "did that sound that quiet to you?"
 
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Sorry for the delay.
I bought mine from Delray (.308 SE)$40.00.

Call AWC Direct
The Attic (North Dakota)
Forest & Field
Delrey Shooting Center 561-265-0700 (Mike)
Cheaper than Dirt

The available calibers are as follows:

<span style="color: #FF0000">SE</span> = SUPPRESSOR ENHANCED

9mm 147gr BJHP <span style="color: #FF0000">Sub-Sonic</span> Bonded Defense Hollow Point
9mm 158gr SE-FMJ <span style="color: #CC0000">Sub-Sonic</span> Full Metal Jacket
9mm 115gr BJHP Bonded Defense Hollow Point
40cal 165gr BJHP Bonded Defense Hollow Point
40cal 180gr BJHP-<span style="color: #CC0000">SE</span> Bonded Defense Hollow Point
45acp 200gr BJHP <span style="color: #FF0000">Sub-Sonic</span> Bonded Defense Hollow Point
45acp 230gr BJHP <span style="color: #CC0000">Sub-Sonic</span> Bonded Defense Hollow Point
45acp 230gr FMJ-<span style="color: #CC0000">SE Sub-Sonic</span> Full Metal Jacket
223 55gr Hornaday V-MAX Match Cartridge
223 53gr HP Hornady with Hollow Point Poly Tip
223 55gr Hornady Soft Point Tip Bullet
<span style="font-weight: bold">308 170gr <span style="color: #CC0000">SE</span>-FP <span style="color: #CC0000">Sub Sonic</span> – Flat Point</span>
308 168gr Match Hornady AMAX w/ Ballistic Point
308 168gr Match – Sierra MatchKing BTHP
308 175gr Match – Sierra MatchKing BTHP
300 220gr Match – Sierra MatchKing BTHP
338 250gr Match – Sierra MatchKing BTHP
338 300gr Match – Sierra MatchKing BTHP
50BMG 705gr Match Solid – Navy Spec
50BMG 750gr Match Solid (NSN# 1308-LL-000-4663)

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Re: Factory .308 Subsonic

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If its like any of the others, its way too expensive. You can roll your own for alot cheaper. and perhaps get better results. </div></div>

+1
And if your able cast your own bullets, your price per rd drops rather quickly. Softer bullets are also your friend when hitting meat at low speed.
 
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Point taken, like I said in the first paragraph, a luxury.

True, but rolling your own subs, IMO, require a Chrony, the risks for failure are just too damn high for the beginner. There is also some skill required in working the flash hole as well. It takes more than a spoonful of brains to get .308 subs right.

I'm not a big fan of sending cast bullets down a rifle suppressor though.
 
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I used to be a fan of factory bullets for S/S rds, but not anymore after I tried some real soft cast.

The factory 180gr RN bullets @ 1050-60 MV, will punch a Southern Yellow Pine PT 4X4 every time,@ 100yds and just leave a hole. The soft cast stuff throws the 4X4 backwards hard and the bullet only makes it 75% threw, but the hole is almost twice as big at about 50% threw. I've never had a can cleaning issue, unless you bought/made a sealed one. Still, even then it can be cleaned.

Equipment, is cheap, persay, I've never ran the numbers but depending on how much you shot, I'd bet everyones ammo bill out weight they'er iron bill, unless they only have safe queens.