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Here is some "Food for Thought":

10 Safest Cities in the U.S.​





  1. Columbia, Maryland
  2. Nashua, New Hampshire
  3. Laredo, Texas
  4. Portland, Maine
  5. Warwick, Rhode Island
  6. Yonkers, New York
  7. Gilbert, Arizona
  8. Burlington, Vermont
  9. Raleigh, North Carolina
  10. Lewiston, Maine

10 Most Dangerous Cities in the U.S.​





  1. St. Louis, Missouri
  2. Fort Lauderdale, Florida
  3. San Bernardino, California
  4. Detroit, Michigan
  5. Baton Rouge, Louisiana
  6. Memphis, Tennessee
  7. Oklahoma City
  8. Oakland, California
  9. Jackson, Mississippi
  10. Chattanooga, Tennessee
www.forbes.com

The 10 Safest (And Unsafest) Cities In America In 2022

What are the most dangerous cities in the US and the safest cities? A new report ranks 180 cities based on the lowest and highest crime rates and more.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
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Hobo Hilton said:
Here is some "Food for Thought":

10 Safest Cities in the U.S.​





  1. Columbia, Maryland
  2. Nashua, New Hampshire
  3. Laredo, Texas
  4. Portland, Maine
  5. Warwick, Rhode Island
  6. Yonkers, New York
  7. Gilbert, Arizona
  8. Burlington, Vermont
  9. Raleigh, North Carolina
  10. Lewiston, Maine

10 Most Dangerous Cities in the U.S.​





  1. St. Louis, Missouri
  2. Fort Lauderdale, Florida
  3. San Bernardino, California
  4. Detroit, Michigan
  5. Baton Rouge, Louisiana
  6. Memphis, Tennessee
  7. Oklahoma City
  8. Oakland, California
  9. Jackson, Mississippi
  10. Chattanooga, Tennessee
www.forbes.com

The 10 Safest (And Unsafest) Cities In America In 2022

What are the most dangerous cities in the US and the safest cities? A new report ranks 180 cities based on the lowest and highest crime rates and more.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
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I call BS, no Chicago?????
 
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I wouldn't mind moving to that city in Georgia that requires everyone to carry a gun that sound like a fun place to be . other wise it would be near bang steel 2250 yards range or Kansas 3600 yard range (aka Heaven) .

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How they came up with the results:

WalletHub compiled its annual list of the safest and most dangerous cities in America by evaluating data points like the percentage of hate crimes and assaults per capita but also other indicators of safety, from weather disasters to unemployment to road quality to the percentage of residents who are fully vaccinated.
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Of course they weight vax status…

Every one of these lists are confirmation biased.
 
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acudaowner said:
I wouldn't mind moving to that city in georgia that requires everyone to carry a gun that sound like a fun place to be . other wise it would be near bang steel 2250 yards range or Kansas 3600 yard range (aka Heaven) .
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Kennesaw, GA (outside Atlanta IIRC). Tis amazing how the Left attempts to discredit that move even though LE confirms it worked and crime dropped.

www.snopes.com

Mandatory Gun Ownership in Kennesaw, Georgia

While Kennesaw, Georgia, passed a law making gun ownership compulsory in 1982, the law was never enforced and didn't cause crime rates to plummet.
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acudaowner said:
I wouldn't mind moving to that city in georgia that requires everyone to carry a gun that sound like a fun place to be . other wise it would be near bang steel 2250 yards range or Kansas 3600 yard range (aka Heaven) .
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Missouri guy here.....where in Kansas is this, please say close to Kansas City.
 
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Wonder where the information came from. Using Yonkers as an example of a "safe" city"

Yonkers Crime Rates and Statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Most accurate 2021 crime rates for Yonkers, NY. Your chance of being a victim of violent crime in Yonkers is 1 in 313 and property crime is 1 in 103. Compare Yonkers crime data to other cities, states, and neighborhoods in the U.S. on NeighborhoodScout.
www.neighborhoodscout.com www.neighborhoodscout.com
 
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Plenty of good cities to move too, but you have to be willing to give up something such as HVAC services etc., because they don't want to travel that far to service your place, slight annoyance. My city is completely safe and respectful as no one knowns who may be packing an appendix carry.
 
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Hobo Hilton said:
Here is some "Food for Thought":

10 Safest Cities in the U.S.​





  1. Columbia, Maryland
  2. Nashua, New Hampshire
  3. Laredo, Texas
  4. Portland, Maine
  5. Warwick, Rhode Island
  6. Yonkers, New York
  7. Gilbert, Arizona
  8. Burlington, Vermont
  9. Raleigh, North Carolina
  10. Lewiston, Maine

10 Most Dangerous Cities in the U.S.​





  1. St. Louis, Missouri
  2. Fort Lauderdale, Florida
  3. San Bernardino, California
  4. Detroit, Michigan
  5. Baton Rouge, Louisiana
  6. Memphis, Tennessee
  7. Oklahoma City
  8. Oakland, California
  9. Jackson, Mississippi
  10. Chattanooga, Tennessee
www.forbes.com

The 10 Safest (And Unsafest) Cities In America In 2022

What are the most dangerous cities in the US and the safest cities? A new report ranks 180 cities based on the lowest and highest crime rates and more.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
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Chattanooga? Really?

I can think of lots of cities worse than many on this list.
 
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Total clickbait BS.

acudaowner said:
that city in Georgia that requires everyone to carry a gun
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There is no such law. Every head of household is "required" to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition, but there are plenty of exceptions - including simply not wanting to. Kennesaw is immediately adjacent to me and I don't know of anyone that owns one. A colleague and I used to take customers that lived in that area to a fancy local gun club for lunch, most had never even handled a firearm.

It was just a publicity stunt in response to a town in IL banning all firearms in the early 80's.
 
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acudaowner said:
I wouldn't mind moving to that city in Georgia that requires everyone to carry a gun that sound like a fun place to be . other wise it would be near bang steel 2250 yards range or Kansas 3600 yard range (aka Heaven) .

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lived there 11 yrs, left 2018, needless to say, very low crime. I understand this has recently changed for the worse.
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eflyguy said:
Total clickbait BS.



There is no such law. Every head of household is "required" to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition, but there are plenty of exceptions - including simply not wanting to. Kennesaw is immediately adjacent to me and I don't know of anyone that owns one. A colleague and I used to take customers that lived in that area to a fancy local gun club for lunch, most had never even handled a firearm.

It was just a publicity stunt in response to a town in IL banning all firearms in the early 80's.
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It meant a lot more when Kennesaw was rural-suburban town near Atlanta - before it was absorbed by "Atlanta". Cobb county went from a reliable RED area to BLUE in a very short time.
 
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Burlington is now a shit-hole... The whole North End is Somaliland and a no-go zone. Downtown is homeless and drug addicts. Car break-ins are a daily thing. And it's spreading outside the city. Per capita, crime rate is way above most large cities. Including shootings and violent crimes. Per capita.

Goes along with the Commie Defund the Police groups... the decriminalization of virtually all drugs and... well... crimes. Property crimes are left alone. In fact, they have counselors who go to the victims to explain that they should be happy to have shared with the less-fortunate. Not making that shit up.

Safest city.. Holy crap. Ah ha haha ha... Bring in the liberals, the refugees, the druggies, transplanted urban gangbangers, the homeless and it turns into the third world overnight. Well... took 20 years. More like 40 since Bernie was mayor and destroyed the place. But there ya go. You let one socialist in and your city goes to hell and your dog is pregnant...

Sirhr
 
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Instead of rat shooting at the landfill....
sirhrmechanic said:
Burlington is now a shit-hole... The whole North End is Somaliland and a no-go zone. Downtown is homeless and drug addicts. Car break-ins are a daily thing. And it's spreading outside the city. Per capita, crime rate is way above most large cities. Including shootings and violent crimes. Per capita.

Goes along with the Commie Defund the Police groups... the decriminalization of virtually all drugs and... well... crimes. Property crimes are left alone. In fact, they have counselors who go to the victims to explain that they should be happy to have shared with the less-fortunate. Not making that shit up.

Safest city.. Holy crap. Ah ha haha ha... Bring in the liberals, the refugees, the druggies, transplanted urban gangbangers, the homeless and it turns into the third world overnight. Well... took 20 years. More like 40 since Bernie was mayor and destroyed the place. But there ya go. You let one socialist in and your city goes to hell and your dog is pregnant...

Sirhr
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hafejd30 said:
Figured Portland Oregon would make the list with its summers of love and all
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Check again, that's the east coast Portland, Maine on there, not the Oregon type.

I was telling the wife just last night that Portland, OR is the filthiest city I've ever been to, worse than Memphis or a back alley off Bourbon St, New Orleans. I've never seen so much trash laying around, strewn absolutely everywhere, than I did in Portland, OR. In all seriousness, Kandahar was much better kept (trash wise) than Portland and Kabul was pretty much neck and neck.
 
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Redmanss said:
Check again, that's the east coast Portland, Maine on there, not the Oregon type.

I was telling the wife just last night that Portland, OR is the filthiest city I've ever been to, worse than Memphis or a back alley off Bourbon St, New Orleans. I've never seen so much trash laying around, strewn absolutely everywhere, than I did in Portland, OR. In all seriousness, Kandahar was much better kept (trash wise) than Portland and Kabul was pretty much neck and neck.
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I have traveled and lived many places for work. I hear what you are saying. Being from Baton Rouge ( # 5 on the Worst list) I follow events daily via the news and family. A traveler can leave the French Quarter, make 2 wrong turns and be on a dead end street in the "Housing Project". Bad place. Another traveler can leave Disneyland (Anaheim), make 2 wrong turns and end up down by the flood control channel and think he was in Tijuana. Bad place.
I now am fairly rural in Montana... What I am witnessing is how much more it cost to "live rural"... I must still travel to Missoula for Home Depot, Costco, Walmart and Providence Medical care. My Ford dealer here appears to be stuck somewhere in the early 1960's so I have to go to a Ford dealer in Missoula for parts. For me, making a trip to Missoula shoots half a day. O’Reilly Automotive, for some things takes 5 days to get a part.

I have more questions than answers.
 
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Just take the straight up numbers from the crimes. Stop doing this bullshit of per 100k people. Of course that's gonna water down stats.

Fuck all the liberal shit holes out there.

Colorado springs is now almost as bad as Pueblo. They had 54 murders last year, up 10 from 2021. Glad I don't live there.

My town only had one murder last year and that was a drunk soldier who shot someone at a bar over a game of darts.......wtf?

Doc
 
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Doc68 said:
Just take the straight up numbers from the crimes. Stop doing this bullshit of per 100k people. Of course that's gonna water down stats.

Fuck all the liberal shit holes out there.

Colorado springs is now almost as bad as Pueblo. They had 54 murders last year, up 10 from 2021. Glad I don't live there.

My town only had one murder last year and that was a drunk soldier who shot someone at a bar over a game of darts.......wtf?

Doc
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Yep. I guess it depends on who is spinnin' the numbers.
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to determine which cities in the United States the most dangerous, 24/7 Wall Street looked at data from the FBI’s 2018 Uniform Crime Report, including each city’s murder and non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Only cities with populations of 100,000 people or more were evaluated. The poverty rate and unemployment rate were also evaluated for each city, as these economic factors often correlate with crime rates. The 50 most dangerous cities in the United States were determined from this data.

Based on this information, the ten most dangerous cities in the United States are:

  1. Detroit, MI
  2. Memphis, TN
  3. Birmingham, AL
  4. Baltimore, MD
  5. St. Louis, MO
  6. Kansas City, MO
  7. Cleveland, OH
  8. Little Rock, AR
  9. Milwaukee, WI
  10. Stockton, CA
The most dangerous city in the United States is Detroit, Michigan. Detroit has a violent crime rate of 2,007.8 incidents per 100,000 people with a total of 261 homicides in 2018. Detroit is the only midsize or large city in the United States with a violent crime rate of over 2,000. With a population of less than 700,000 people today, Detroit reported about 13,500 violent crimes in 2018 – a rate higher than cities with double the population

^^ wow, chicago still didn't make it.. that tells you something!!
 
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Hobo Hilton said:
I have traveled and lived many places for work. I hear what you are saying. Being from Baton Rouge ( # 5 on the Worst list) I follow events daily via the news and family. A traveler can leave the French Quarter, make 2 wrong turns and be on a dead end street in the "Housing Project". Bad place. Another traveler can leave Disneyland (Anaheim), make 2 wrong turns and end up down by the flood control channel and think he was in Tijuana. Bad place.
I now am fairly rural in Montana... What I am witnessing is how much more it cost to "live rural"... I must still travel to Missoula for Home Depot, Costco, Walmart and Providence Medical care. My Ford dealer here appears to be stuck somewhere in the early 1960's so I have to go to a Ford dealer in Missoula for parts. For me, making a trip to Missoula shoots half a day. O’Reilly Automotive, for some things takes 5 days to get a part.

I have more questions than answers.
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Being in rural Wyoming, I have the same thing but find it to be cheaper than city living. Once a month we make a trip to the city for stock up day. Sam's Club (no Costco remotely close) for meat and bulk products, fabric store for the wife's quilting hobby, other whatnots here and there, but it's only a once a month thing. Grocery store in town handles most of the rest food wise, meat storage I have a 25 cu/ft upright deep freezer, auto dealer I hit up once a year for filters for the wife's car and Rock Auto for most everything else. I've found Rock Auto to have Motorcraft parts at better availability and a cheaper price than any dealer, big city or otherwise, because the dealers I've been to ALWAYS charge MSRP for parts, and Rock Auto shipping charges, albeit high at times, still always beats my fuel bill to Cheyenne or Casper.

In other words, lots of planning, a bit of patience, two big coolers and lots of room to put it all away at results in far fewer impulse purchases because the stores and restaurants just aren't as available. No coffee shops, no fast food cravings, no Target runs and done, no "Hey honey, on your way home can you get ________" unless that blank is milk or eggs. Online orders cover the rest, but as always zero Amazon in my house because fuck them.
 
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Redmanss said:
Check again, that's the east coast Portland, Maine on there, not the Oregon type.

I was telling the wife just last night that Portland, OR is the filthiest city I've ever been to, worse than Memphis or a back alley off Bourbon St, New Orleans. I've never seen so much trash laying around, strewn absolutely everywhere, than I did in Portland, OR. In all seriousness, Kandahar was much better kept (trash wise) than Portland and Kabul was pretty much neck and neck.
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Thats really sad. When were you there?

I spent a couple weeks in Portland, Or. circa 2006-2008and it was a beautiful city. The square downtown was spotless and always had free music or entertainment. Up the hill a bit and excellent restaurants all over.

My favorite thing was to go way up the hill to the Japanese Zen Garden and watch the sun come up over Mt. Hood, then walk down the hill to the International Rose Research Station where all the chicks hung out, then take one to breakfast.

Has it turned to this?

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babyguppy said:
to determine which cities in the United States the most dangerous, 24/7 Wall Street looked at data from the FBI’s 2018 Uniform Crime Report, including each city’s murder and non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Only cities with populations of 100,000 people or more were evaluated. The poverty rate and unemployment rate were also evaluated for each city, as these economic factors often correlate with crime rates. The 50 most dangerous cities in the United States were determined from this data.

Based on this information, the ten most dangerous cities in the United States are:

  1. Detroit, MI
  2. Memphis, TN
  3. Birmingham, AL
  4. Baltimore, MD
  5. St. Louis, MO
  6. Kansas City, MO
  7. Cleveland, OH
  8. Little Rock, AR
  9. Milwaukee, WI
  10. Stockton, CA
The most dangerous city in the United States is Detroit, Michigan. Detroit has a violent crime rate of 2,007.8 incidents per 100,000 people with a total of 261 homicides in 2018. Detroit is the only midsize or large city in the United States with a violent crime rate of over 2,000. With a population of less than 700,000 people today, Detroit reported about 13,500 violent crimes in 2018 – a rate higher than cities with double the population

^^ wow, chicago still didn't make it.. that tells you something!!
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Ask yourself, who populates and governs Detroit.
 
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Maggot said:
Thats really sad. When were you there?

I spent a couple weeks in Portland, Or. circa 2006-2008and it was a beautiful city. The square downtown was spotless and always had free music or entertainment. Up the hill a bit and excellent restaurants all over.

My favorite thing was to go way up the hill to the Japanese Zen Garden and watch the sun come up over Mt. Hood, then walk down the hill to the International Rose Research Station where all the chicks hung out, then take one to breakfast.

Has it turned to this?

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Portland actually looks worse than this. This is a very hygenic picture compared to what you see (and smell) on the streets today.

I remember those days. In 2008. It was a beautiful city, but liberals have changed. They have turned to policies that make it easy for the homeless to be homeless in Liberal cities, such as allowing them to live anywhere and giving them just enough public benefits to survive so that more homeless people move there for the benefits. In San Francisco, a homeless can sleep and shit right on the doorstep of a business and a business owner can't do anything about it. The other problem compounding everything is the Left's attitude toward drugs. I'm generally a libertarian on a lot of things but I've seen how bad drug use has affected the poor in San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, and to make matters worse, city hall is actively helping people do drugs by providing them with all the tools to do it "safely." Needles, arm straps, caps to melt heroin in, everything you can imagine except for drug rehabilitation. Drug decriminalization was supposed to decrease crime, but the opposite has happened. Now crime is out of control.

San Francisco and Seattle used to be beautiful cities too. I spent 10 years in San Francisco from 2005 to 2015, and 4 in Seattle before moving back to Portland. I would say the turning point was around 2012. That's when liberals, with no conservative opposition to force them to the middle, just went hard Left on everything, and you could date the decline from there. And they can't put the toothpaste back into the tube, they can't fix this problem because all of their solutions caused this in the first place.
 
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LilGucci said:
Portland actually looks worse than this. This is a very hygenic picture compared to what you see (and smell) on the streets today.

I remember those days. In 2008. It was a beautiful city, but liberals have changed. They have turned to policies that make it easy for the homeless to be homeless in Liberal cities, such as allowing them to live anywhere and giving them just enough public benefits to survive so that more homeless people move there for the benefits. In San Francisco, a homeless can sleep and shit right on the doorstep of a business and a business owner can't do anything about it. The other problem compounding everything is the Left's attitude toward drugs. I'm generally a libertarian on a lot of things but I've seen how bad drug use has affected the poor in San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, and to make matters worse, city hall is actively helping people do drugs by providing them with all the tools to do it "safely." Needles, arm straps, caps to melt heroin in, everything you can imagine except for drug rehabilitation. Drug decriminalization was supposed to decrease crime, but the opposite has happened. Now crime is out of control.

San Francisco and Seattle used to be beautiful cities too. I spent 10 years in San Francisco from 2005 to 2015, and 4 in Seattle before moving back to Portland. I would say the turning point was around 2012. That's when liberals, with no conservative opposition to force them to the middle, just went hard Left on everything, and you could date the decline from there. And they can't put the toothpaste back into the tube, they can't fix this problem because all of their solutions caused this in the first place.
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Things tend to have a way of fixing themselves. If its that filthy, the rats will join them. Then the plagues start.
 
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WalletHub compiled its annual list of the safest and most dangerous cities in America by evaluating data points like the percentage of hate crimes and assaults per capita but also other indicators of safety, from weather disasters to unemployment to road quality to the percentage of residents who are fully vaccinated.

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Tempest 455 said:
Chattanooga? Really?

I can think of lots of cities worse than many on this list.
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Shreveport
Memphis
St. Louis
Philadelphia,PA
Baltimore
D.C
Scranton
Camden, NJ
Buffalo, NY
NYC, NY
Myrtle Beach,SC

We checked into a motel in Shreveport in October of 2008- the evening news reported that night that Memphis had just lost the title for the most dangerous city in the US- to Shreveport.

It took no one to figure out why.
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Wrong!! Let them waller in their cities. We don't need them in rural areas. Without cities the vermin would infest our peace and quiet.
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Agreed. They can stay in their shitholes, we don't want them or their attitudes out in the country. Exemptions can be made for country folks trapped in cities on a case by case basis.
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hseII said:
Shreveport
Memphis
St. Louis
Philadelphia,PA
Baltimore
D.C
Scranton
Camden, NJ
Buffalo, NY
NYC, NY
Myrtle Beach,SC

We checked into a motel in Shreveport in October of 2008- the evening news reported that night that Memphis had just lost the title for the most dangerous city in the US- to Shreveport.

It took no one to figure out why.
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Shreveport, Baton Rouge, and Chocolate City are the worst in Louisiana!
 
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Redmanss said:
Check again, that's the east coast Portland, Maine on there, not the Oregon type.

I was telling the wife just last night that Portland, OR is the filthiest city I've ever been to, worse than Memphis or a back alley off Bourbon St, New Orleans. I've never seen so much trash laying around, strewn absolutely everywhere, than I did in Portland, OR. In all seriousness, Kandahar was much better kept (trash wise) than Portland and Kabul was pretty much neck and neck.
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I should have worded that better….

I figured Portland Oregon would have made the list. As in I’m surprised it’s not on there based on recent years
 
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Californio said:
Plenty of good cities to move too, but you have to be willing to give up something such as HVAC services etc., because they don't want to travel that far to service your place, slight annoyance. My city is completely safe and respectful as no one knowns who may be packing an appendix carry.
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You don't have to be that far out and still have people fix your AC and clean your gutters. Sorry my ladder climbing days are over, not going that high.

I can only speak to the Kansas City area (more on that later). I agree with the other list, KC proper is a total shit hole, for the exact same reasons all the other cities like that are total shit holes. Everyone that lives in the KC area will send their kids to a private school or move out. Nothing else needs to be said. They are full in the "defund the police" and while I think some folk would like that, it really does not work out real well.

I live about an hour east of KC, and about 45min from "town". KC is a pretty big city land area wise, and then you get into the "greater Kansas City" area it is even bigger, and crosses state lines. You can drive an hour and a half on the highway at speed and never be "out of the city". It reaches north, south....west is Kansas, and aside from "the dot", Wyandotte county everything else in kansas is pretty good. Going east north of I70 is a little sketchy till you get past a point, going south of I70 same deal....but straight east, it falls off pretty quick. I am between basically Lees summit and Sedaila.....Whiteman AFB is a neighbor.

All that babble is just to say you can get out of dodge and not give up or have a hard time getting people to "fix stuff" if you need.

I have just enough land to play on. I rode motorcycles all around my property, and can walk outside and shoot any "gun" I want. Might want to talk to a few neighbors if I wanted to play with a canon or something along those lines.
 
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