Federal judge finds female genital mutilation law unconstitutional

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-female-genital-mutilation-law-20181120-story.html

We're totally fucked when the defense argues the Commerce Clause and wins, when this horrific an legal? form of child abuse/mutilation goes completely unpunished because a fucktard judge invalidates a completely common sense law.

Honestly, if there was any justice that judge ought to have his fucking dick chopped off and stuffed into his fucking mouth, because that is EXACTLY what he is saying is perfectly legal! To legally prevaricate legally like this, when we are literally talking about mutilating the gentles of female children, is fucking unbelievable.

There is not parley with this. There is no negotiating a middle ground or compromise of any sort. You shoot mother fuckers who do this to children. If the religious practice was cannibalism, you fucking arrest them and execute them. In this case it's the worst kind of child abuse I can imagine. If the practice was to rape the children at least they would be physically whole. If this were a boy, for the same stated goal, you would chop off his dick so he had no sexual desire and would remain chaste. No civilized people have done this for hundreds of years. It's completely barbaric and must be stamped out completely. All involved must be prosecuted for the most egregious child abuse to the absolute extent of the law.

I cannot believe this is happening in America. I just want to punch any fucktard liberal in the face who claims this is Islamophobia, or that laws specifically stating Sharia is illegal are somehow racist! Where the fuck are the feminists? Silence. Nothing could prove what emptiness lies in modern feminism than their silence on this horrible child abuse. Fuck them!

I am so mad right now I can't stand it.

 

[lash]

Another step in the islamification of the U.S. Detroit is at the forefront.

 

[XLR308]

This absolutely disgusts me and I think you know as well as anyone else that isn't a barbaric third world shithead what has to be done and what it will take to right the ship since the law and courts can't be relied upon anymore to do the right thing.

 

[Mwalex]

I read about that late last night and was at a loss for words. I agree with every poster that alluded to the Islamification of Detroit and soon to be MI and WI as a whole. I wonder how the SJW's and Feminist are going to spin this into being okay?

 

[pmclaine]

But meanwhile we cant have the sex of our kids determined at birth because later in life the child may decide it is a different sex........

go figure.

 

[FS1]

Next up on the Courts Docket...Human Sacrifice is a protected religious ritual.

 

[MtnCreek]

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I'd prefer they be spayed or neutered.

 

[pmclaine]

Current conventional wisdom is that circumcising boys is abhorrent for making an irreversible change without the childs ability to contribute to the decision....

Just another head scratcher from the left saying one thing while promoting its opposite.

 

[Rthur]

The silence from the "feminists" is deafening...

R

 

[2ndamendfan]

Next up on the Courts Docket...Human Sacrifice is a protected religious ritual.

Well lets get it on then. Have a few on the list who need sacrificing to the God of Freedom. Also have a judge who jumped to the top of the list.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Another day in the insane world we live in...

Just goes to show that the "Feminists" and "Women's Power" type Communists really don't actually care about women, other women are just useful stooges for their anti everything good and decent and anti man campaigns.

The fact the rest of the stupid women don't seem to see the problem just shows how insane the world is these days.
Kill your babies....
Mutilate your young daughters so they can't ever enjoy sex....
Never allow a woman to be in power unless she is a strict adherent to your dogma...

Such great "Women's Rights" you have going on there...

The Communist SJW type always try to confuse the issue with Circumcision (of which I'm a firm believer for both religious and health reasons).
They conveniently forget that it's totally different.
Kind of like them claiming that they should get away with murdering the unborn because well those who don't agree practice abstinence or safe sex and so it's all the same.

 

[MtnCreek]

Circumcision for strong knees? :-D

 

[Fig]

"Circumcision" is removing the foreskin. The penis itself is not removed (contrary to what Eric Cartman may think). Clitoridectomy, which is what we're talking about, would be quite literally chopping a male child's dick off. That IS what a IS. If any of these monsters tries to tell you it's, "female circumcision", or some such nonsense they're LYING.

 

[pmclaine]

"Circumcision" is removing the foreskin. The penis itself is not removed (contrary to what Eric Cartman may think). Clitoridectomy, which is what we're talking about, would be quite literally chopping a male child's dick off. That IS what a IS. If any of these monsters tries to tell you it's, "female circumcision", or some such nonsense they're LYING.

Oh I understand and agree with your sense of horror.

The only reason for it is to ensure the female experiences no pleasure during sex.

There is no hygiene, disease reduction or other benefit remotely derived other than the man gets to experience more than the woman does.

Only the left knows how to use language to benefit their agenda.

The words "gun control" have positive connotations over the reality of the agenda "gun banning".

"Sources of Revenue" seems benign to the sheep but they will bray when the words "raising taxes" are used.

Female genital mutilation is pretty descriptive but the left wants it to be called FGM - most have no clue what FGM is.

If the people against it had a clue they need to make sure the right words are used.

Words have meaning, at least they used to.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Ok, not to stray off the subject to far (as far as the female mutilation part goes) but why oh fucking why, is it so easy to extend the first amendment to almost infinty, yet the 2nd is so easy to castrate (staying with the theme there).

 

[MtnCreek]

Was circumcision started to keep the jews from jacking off?

 

[W54/XM-388]

Ok, not to stray off the subject to far (as far as the female mutilation part goes) but why oh fucking why, is it so easy to extend the first amendment to almost infinty, yet the 2nd is so easy to castrate (staying with the theme there).

You'll notice that the 1st amendment protections are viciously championed and expanded and stretched to the limits of credulity when it suits the agenda of the Communists, the SJWs and any vile filth....

But you use the 1st amendment to say anything against the Communist SJW doctrine and suddenly it's "Hate speech" and "Wrong thinking" and you must be shut down at all costs by the government or if they are not willing by using the Technocrats and big corporations to do it instead.

 

[pmclaine]

You'll notice that the 1st amendment protections are viciously championed and expanded and stretched to the limits of credulity when it suits the agenda of the Communists, the SJWs and any vile filth....

But you use the 1st amendment to say anything against the Communist SJW doctrine and suddenly it's "Hate speech" and "Wrong thinking" and you must be shut down at all costs by the government or if they are not willing by using the Technocrats and big corporations to do it instead.

Do you have Citizens United in mind perhaps?

Hillary believes taking money from influencers, unions, corporations is good for her but have an influencer, union or corporation advocate for policy she disagrees with than that is bad.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Was circumcision started to keep the jews from jacking off?

That part was brought to you by the guy that started your favourite Kellog's breakfast cereals.

Funny how things come around.

Back in the good old days when the almighty Catholic Church ruled the civilized western world, you had to be careful if you were circumcised not to let it get found out because you might be "put to the question" to determine if you were a Judaizer or Mohammedeen (assuming you didn't have your conversion scroll on you).

Then along comes some kind of crazy idiots with these ideas that sex is bad, who also like eugenics and a bunch of other crazy stuff... but are rich.
So they make circumcision the new "Christian" thing to do and once again the three main branches of religion that descended from Abraham are united in making sure penises look correct.

 

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I was under the impression that (practically) it was a hygiene thing back in the day. Kind of like all the dietary restrictions were because all those foods generally could make you sick and die in a desert environment (shrimp doesn't travel well with iron age refrigeration).

 

[W54/XM-388]

I was under the impression that (practically) it was a hygiene thing back in the day.

Yes, specifically helping you have a much harder time catching many diseases. (Still might get them, but the deck is now more stacked in your favour). Even modern studies in Africa still show it to be the case.

 

[pmclaine]

Yes, specifically helping you have a much harder time catching many diseases. (Still might get them, but the deck is now more stacked in your favour). Even modern studies in Africa still show it to be the case.

If you put the syphillus in the warm, moist pocket it gets a greater period of time to incubate and cause a drippy ant eater while as you know if you have been in the .mil water sheds and washes off from a helmet.

 

[MtnCreek]

I heard a report on npr a couple years discussing reduced std infections in circumcised vs non africans. It mentioned the results were skewed due to circumcision being closely related to religious beliefs and reduced promiscuity.

 

[missed]

I remember taking a college class that talked about that crap and having to writea paper about it. My solution was to nuke them off the face of the planet. How the fuck would it even make it toa court room as a decision that had to be made is incredible. Yeah and silence from feminist what the hell? In reality anybody. Line them up and cut them down.

 

[pmclaine]

I heard a report on npr a couple years discussing reduced std infections in circumcised vs non africans. It mentioned the results were skewed due to circumcision being closely related to religious beliefs and reduced promiscuity.

Freakanomics.

which came first...the chicken or the egg.

 

[pmclaine]

Apparently the judge ruled the Fed law was overturned on a states rights basis.

A good thing except in this case it is allowing a loop hole to dismiss a current crime.

Michigan apparently has a law stricter than Fed law with greater penalties (15 years instead of 5) but the Michigan law was passed after the case in question so it can not apply.

If the above is correct this may not be the travesty it seems.

Now all 50 states need to make it a capital offense.

 

[SilentStalkr]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-female-genital-mutilation-law-20181120-story.html

We're totally fucked when the defense argues the Commerce Clause and wins, when this horrific an legal? form of child abuse/mutilation goes completely unpunished because a fucktard judge invalidates a completely common sense law.

Honestly, if there was any justice that judge ought to have his fucking dick chopped off and stuffed into his fucking mouth, because that is EXACTLY what he is saying is perfectly legal! To legally prevaricate legally like this, when we are literally talking about mutilating the gentles of female children, is fucking unbelievable.

There is not parley with this. There is no negotiating a middle ground or compromise of any sort. You shoot mother fuckers who do this to children. If the religious practice was cannibalism, you fucking arrest them and execute them. In this case it's the worst kind of child abuse I can imagine. If the practice was to rape the children at least they would be physically whole. If this were a boy, for the same stated goal, you would chop off his dick so he had no sexual desire and would remain chaste. No civilized people have done this for hundreds of years. It's completely barbaric and must be stamped out completely. All involved must be prosecuted for the most egregious child abuse to the absolute extent of the law.

I cannot believe this is happening in America. I just want to punch any fucktard liberal in the face who claims this is Islamophobia, or that laws specifically stating Sharia is illegal are somehow racist! Where the fuck are the feminists? Silence. Nothing could prove what emptiness lies in modern feminism than their silence on this horrible child abuse. Fuck them!

I am so mad right now I can't stand it.

It’s hard to argue this is Islamophobia and argue for women’s rights at the same time.

 

[W54/XM-388]

I heard a report on npr a couple years discussing reduced std infections in circumcised vs non africans. It mentioned the results were skewed due to circumcision being closely related to religious beliefs and reduced promiscuity.

There is also the problem that in their studies (Specifically dealing with aids transmission), once the experiment gets a bit too far along things start to leak and well.... nobody wants to be in the group that is more likely to get aids when having rampant unprotected sex... so off to the doctor... (apparently stocking up on condoms isn't on their list of things to do).

 

[pmclaine]

Add regards the ruling......

In a positive note the judge actually cites that it was a stretch for Congress to pass the law using the commerce clause.

The judge doesnt view this as a commerce states boundary crime but as your typical basic crime covered by local criminal law.

If the judge gets his way the outrage will result in laws in each state that hopefully will be stricter than the 5 years in jail Fed law allowed.

More should be like Michigan with 15 years in jail.

 

[pmclaine]

The left will be in a pickle.

They are being put in a bind of

A. trying to put these doctors in jail
B. Letting the judges ruling stand which means Rowe vs Wade is a State right issue not a federal issue.

If this judge is right I dont see how NFA 1934 or GCA 1968 stand. Those should have been state rights issues.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Oh I understand and agree with your sense of horror.

The only reason for it is to ensure the female experiences no pleasure during sex.

There is no hygiene, disease reduction or other benefit remotely derived other than the man gets to experience more than the woman does.

Only the left knows how to use language to benefit their agenda.

The words "gun control" have positive connotations over the reality of the agenda "gun banning".

"Sources of Revenue" seems benign to the sheep but they will bray when the words "raising taxes" are used.

Female genital mutilation is pretty descriptive but the left wants it to be called FGM - most have no clue what FGM is.

If the people against it had a clue they need to make sure the right words are used.

Words have meaning, at least they used to.

Doesn’t the man already experience more than the woman does lol? I mean let’s face it, most guys are done in 5-15 minutes lmao. The ladies are barely even getting warmed up in that time period.

 

[pmclaine]

Be careful how you view this ruling.

Criminals may be getting away with a crime but it may bring tougher punishment to those that follow and it may get the Federal govt out of our lives just a little bit.

Needs to be looked at deeper on what the implications are.

 

[pmclaine]

Doesn’t the man already experience more than the woman does lol? I mean let’s face it, most guys are done in 5-15 minutes lmao. The ladies are barely even getting warmed up in that time period.

"5-15 minutes" come on guy lets see film of the range report.

Im betting your "1/2 MOA groups all day long" go 3 MOA or more.

 

[Longshot231]

The leftist and the muslims like to cite religious liberty but when a kid wears an "I love Jesus" t-shirt to school or anyone wants to pray at a graduation then the left throws a fit.

There's nothing healthy about this barbaric, sadistic and demented practice. It also shows you how screwed up the muslim mindset is. The men don't want to let women enjoy the God given gift of sex.

To a western mind (I'm sure that the men on this forum would agree) the only way sex is really enjoyable is when both the man and woman enjoy it.

I'd like to ask the dumb-ass judge how he would feel if he was tied to a table and castrated - ranch style.

This video is a two years old. The lady speaking helped to get the FGM legislation passed. This has to be a nightmare for a lot of women.

 

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Evil twisted fucks.

 

[pmclaine]

The judge is described as a "Libertarian Reagan appointee".

Based on what Im seeing his finding is in line with the Constitution, will likely result in stronger rules against FGM (at least it will define which parts of the country are humane), and may bring a roll back of other federal laws that are an over reach based on misapplication of the Constitution.

Study this, I may be wrong.

A battle lost,,A war won.

Remember Solomon would have cut the kid in half.

 

[pmclaine]

That ruling wont happen in Michigan again as the state law is in place and it has been given force by this Federal judge.

These two Mengeles will do this again sadly but their time in jail will follow.

 

[Longshot231]

Remember Solomon would have cut the kid in half.

Solomon used a ruse to reveal who the real mother was. No sane parent would let anyone do this to their child.

 

[Threadcutter308]

OK, it's just a fantasy, but.......

Wouldn't it be interesting to find that some new members here were female, they saw this thread and that all of us are standing up for women's rights ? Particularly something as heinous as this ?

Yeah, I'll crawl back into my hole now, we're just a bunch of mysoginist relics anyway.....

 

[W54/XM-388]

Doesn’t the man already experience more than the woman does lol? I mean let’s face it, most guys are done in 5-15 minutes lmao. The ladies are barely even getting warmed up in that time period.

The usual desensitization of the male member that is a side effect of more exposure and rough contact can in often cases extend the amount of time the male takes to complete their cycle, however the mind is what drives it, so it's a lot about mind over body.

 

[pmclaine]

Solomon used a ruse to reveal who the real mother was. No sane parent would let anyone do this to their child.

I get it but the point is when push came to shove he did not go with "feelings" or he went with the rule of law?

Im sure this judge has his personal beliefs regarding these two Mengeles and the fact he states its a case for criminal law not commercial law indicates to me that he equates it with murder, abuse, and battery crimes that on their face are so evidently abhorrent there is no nuance needed and states should be making statute and prosecuting the criminals.

 

[pmclaine]

OK, it's just a fantasy, but.......

Wouldn't it be interesting to find that some new members here were female, they saw this thread and that all of us are standing up for women's rights ? Particularly something as heinous as this ?

Yeah, I'll crawl back into my hole now, we're just a bunch of mysoginist relics anyway.....

I bet you have a hipster beard and wear skinny jeans.

 

[pmclaine]

The usual desensitization of the male member that is a side effect of more exposure and rough contact can in often cases extend the amount of time the male takes to complete their cycle, however the mind is what drives it, so it's a lot about mind over body.

Dr Ruth? Who'd of thought you were a shooter. Neat handle.......

 

[Flyingbullseye]

I don't have any kids but if I was put in a jury box for a dad that killed a doctor or the judge that allowed this practice on his daughter, I'm not saying its right but I'd understand and he's walking.

 

[RTH1800]

Federal judge.. the outcome was pre ordained.

 

[RTH1800]

Anyone who believes this is OK should not be here anyway. Go back to the shithole.

 

[pmclaine]

Federal judge.. the outcome was pre ordained.

Read my read on this above.

This may have been the right decision Constitutionally and going forward to stop this heinous practice.

As well it creates some precedent to unwind some other BS.

If Im right Ill defend this judge all day long and will hope he gets consideration when RBG is late for breakfast.

 

[Longshot231]

I get it but the point is when push came to shove he did not go with "feelings" or did he went with the rule of law?

Im sure this judge has his personal beliefs regarding these two Mengeles and the fact he states its a case for criminal law not commercial law indicates to me that he equates it with murder, abuse, and battery crimes that on their face are so evidently abhorrent there is no nuance needed and states should be making statute and prosecuting the criminals.

I made the statement about Solomon not necessarily to correct you but clarify the Old Testament story for those that may not be familiar with it.

I don't know what the Judge was thinking but from an empirical standpoint the Judge cannot argue that this does not violate the child's rights. We have similar laws on the books which outlaw the mistreatment and abuse of children.

I'd bet you a case of match grade 6.5 CM ammo that if there was a case brought to his attention about grounding a delinquent teenager he'd declare that unconstitutional but uphold genital mutilation.

 

[Threadcutter308]

I bet you have a hipster beard and wear skinny jeans.

I didn’t say it was a fantasy that I believed in. Probably a poor choice of wording on my part...

“Hipster beard and skinny jeans ?”........uhhhh, no.

 

[Longshot231]

OK, it's just a fantasy, but.......

Wouldn't it be interesting to find that some new members here were female, they saw this thread and that all of us are standing up for women's rights ? Particularly something as heinous as this ?

Yeah, I'll crawl back into my hole now, we're just a bunch of mysoginist relics anyway.....

A woman is never as beautiful or as sensible than when she is holding a gun. It's just a fantasy but wouldn't it be great to see an armed insurrection of women in places that mutilate little girls?