Feds collecting garbage in Portland

[Maggot]

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1 day ago - I don't know who you are or what you want with us.'” ... Federal Officers Shoot Portland Protester In Head With 'Less Lethal' Munitions ... “Feds are driving around, grabbing people off the streets,” O'Shea said on ... Blinded by his hat, in an unmarked minivan full of armed people dressed in camouflage and

 

[seanh]

If anyone in the alphabet groups or former 1099 associates are listening...I'd be glad to volunteer to help with shift work...

The only requirement is my tactical atire is red white and blue...

 

[supercorndogs]

"In a statement, the U.S. Marshals Service declined to comment on the practice of using unmarked vehicles, but said their officers had not arrested Pettibone.

“All United States Marshals Service arrestees have public records of arrest documenting their charges. Our agency did not arrest or detain Mark James Pettibone.”

OPB sent DHS an extensive list of questions about Pettibone’s arrest including: What is the legal justification for making arrests away from federal property? What is the legal justification for searching people who are not participating in criminal activity? Why are federal officers using civilian vehicles and taking people away in them? Are the arrests federal officers make legal under the constitution? If so, how?"

So, whats really happening, are dems running around black bagging people to make the fed look bad.

 

[jerryrva]

Kick the Mayor out of Portland or let it burn down. Citizens choice.

 

[seanh]

Foreign contractors hired to protect foreign diplomats... no requirement to provide any documentation of contract, assaults, arrest,

 

[...]

the irony of people advocating for communism complaining about being thrown in unmarked cars and being taken away

 

[SilentStalkr]

Yeah, I’m kind of glad they are getting rid of this shit, but that’s a fine line. I’m not sure I’m cool with people in unmarked vans running around randomly picking up people. In this case it’s valid, next time it could be anyone. You said some bull shit about being a 3%r on the interwebs, all of a sudden you thr enemy and they come to pick you up in an unmarked van. Hmmmm...

 

[Sniperwannabee]

i highly doubt its random...

 

[SilentStalkr]

i highly doubt its random...

Its not but your missing my point. Who gets to decide who becomes the target and for what purpose? We’ve already seen agencies weaponized against regular people. It’s not a stretch to think in the near future it couldn’t be one of us. I’m also not 100% sure this is our people.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

Its not but your missing my point. Who gets to decide who becomes the target and for what purpose? We’ve already seen agencies weaponized against regular people. It’s not a stretch to think in the near future it couldn’t be one of us. I’m also not 100% sure this is our people.

i was thinking they were grabbing people that were breaking the law and doing illegal activities or just like on post #3 its fake news BS

 

[Threadcutter308]

Its not but your missing my point. Who gets to decide who becomes the target and for what purpose? We’ve already seen agencies weaponized against regular people. It’s not a stretch to think in the near future it couldn’t be one of us. I’m also not 100% sure this is our people.

Regardless of my disagreement with everything antifa, I am not a fan of this.

 

[earthtrekker1775]

El Presidente Trump declared antifa a terrorist org. So, in that case they have no legal recourse and the snake eaters and secret squirrels can snatch and grab them and disappear them. One more travesty of justice thanks to patriot act era big govt. keep in mind, it may be antifa this month but how long until it is us and people on our side that don't bend the knee to the narrative that are the targets of professional govt doxxing, black site imprisonments, internment camps or assassinations? Not long, not long at all.

 

[seanh]

Its not but your missing my point. Who gets to decide who becomes the target and for what purpose? We’ve already seen agencies weaponized against regular people. It’s not a stretch to think in the near future it couldn’t be one of us. I’m also not 100% sure this is our people.

Who makes the list...the people you vote for...they appoint certain individuals to non-disclosed positions who create teams or committees that create that list...

My guess is you are now on the list... Lol

 

[seanh]

Regardless of my disagreement with everything antifa, I am not a fan of this.

So you support terrorists organizations...

And no, before you ask, I do not think terrorists deserve due process.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

ya these people getting grabbed are probably ANTIFA ... its portland

 

[DuneBoer]

OPB sent DHS an extensive list of questions about Pettibone’s arrest including: What is the legal justification for making arrests away from federal property? What is the legal justification for searching people who are not participating in criminal activity? Why are federal officers using civilian vehicles and taking people away in them? Are the arrests federal officers make legal under the constitution? If so, how?"

Federal Officers are civilians. They are probably using unmarked vehicles. Very common.

My guess is DHS, BORTAC and any other agency involved are probably deputized by the Marshals Service. This is common. The US Marshals and FBI can enforce federal law anywhere in the US and trust territories. They do NOT have to be on federal ground to do it.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

 

[Threadcutter308]

So you support terrorists organizations...

And no, before you ask, I do not think terrorists deserve due process.

No. You misunderstand. Completely.

I am very much a fan of Due Process and Equal Justice for All.
Not that Equal Justice has been overly abundant in this country, particularly in the last seven months. But without it in its entirety, we are nothing, without law, order and justice.

Do not try to put words in my mouth or to pretend to speak for me.

 

[Maser]

Regardless of my disagreement with everything antifa, I am not a fan of this.

Yeah, I know this is something we expect to see on the streets of Communist China, but what else can we do? Personally I think it's a nice slap in the face to the Communism/Socialism supporters of Antifa to get a little Communist justice from the feds. I've been cynical about this looting and rioting since day one of this nonsense. There's been countless vids posted at 4Chan showing what the looter's real interest is. Is it any surprise the black looters referred to George Floyd as "some random dead nigga" and their only interest is free stuff? In the famous words of Vito Corleone, "this war stops now."

 

[deersniper]

So you support terrorists organizations...

And no, before you ask, I do not think terrorists deserve due process.

You’re attitude is why the constitution has been destroyed.

Tear a little piece off each time to get them bootleggers / molesters / druggies / terrorists etc.

People with your attitude are going to help add gun owners / constitutionalists / and other wrong thinkers to the list of “people that don’t deserve due process”


SMFH

 

[SilentStalkr]

Who makes the list...the people you vote for...they appoint certain individuals to non-disclosed positions who create teams or committees that create that list...

My guess is you are now on the list... Lol

Lmao! Trust me, everyone on this board, just about, is on a list. Most of us know we are on some kind of list. No secret there. The key is to be on the list and still be well connected !

 

[308pirate]

Yeah, I’m kind of glad they are getting rid of this shit, but that’s a fine line. I’m not sure I’m cool with people in unmarked vans running around randomly picking up people. In this case it’s valid, next time it could be anyone. You said some bull shit about being a 3%r on the interwebs, all of a sudden you thr enemy and they come to pick you up in an unmarked van. Hmmmm...

Well, if you're in condition yellow like you should be plain-colored vans won't be a problem.

 

[308pirate]

how long until it is us and people on our side that don't bend the knee to the narrative that are the targets of professional govt doxxing, black site imprisonments, internment camps or assassinations?

When that starts to happen it's time to return the favor.

 

[308pirate]

OPB sent DHS an extensive list of questions about Pettibone’s arrest including: What is the legal justification for making arrests away from federal property? What is the legal justification for searching people who are not participating in criminal activity? Why are federal officers using civilian vehicles and taking people away in them? Are the arrests federal officers make legal under the constitution? If so, how?"

As if DHS was under any obligation to answer to some random libtard website. If those fucktards are so curious about the laws surrounding the power of arrest of federal police, they should pay a fucking lawyer to explain it to them.

 

[E. Bryant]

the irony of people advocating for communism complaining about being thrown in unmarked cars and being taken away

Also, the irony of Constitutional conservatives advocating for a secret police force taking away citizens in unmarked vehicles.

 

[Fig]

Regardless of my disagreement with everything antifa, I am not a fan of this.

How about snipers taking out their leadership whenever they turn violent (every protest)?

 

[E. Bryant]

How about snipers taking out their leadership whenever they turn violent (every protest)?

If those snipers are protecting lives or property within the limitations of the laws of the jurisdiction in which they are operating, sure. Otherwise, fuck no.

 

[Fig]

Antifa has been designated a terrorist organization officially. I’m not against rendition of assassination of terrorists whose goal is destroying our country. Obviously that can be abused, but in this case I say go for it. These people are communist scum. They don’t consider me a human being, so I don’t consider them one.

 

[rustyinbend]

How would we all feel, if this was a Pro-2nd Amendment protest, and a Democratic administration injected unidentified armed officers in unmarked rental mini-vans for grab-and-go detainment and questioning in undisclosed locations.

We'd all be having kittens we'd be so mad. Wringing of hands ... Gnashing of teeth ... How could they ... Harrumph Harrumph !!!

Let's just remember that the civil rights that are trampled upon against people we don't like ... may someday be our own civil rights that are trampled upon.

These officers should be clearly badged with agency identification, their vehicles should be clearly marked, they should be operating in municipal territory with the knowledge and permission of local authorities, and everyone being detained should be told the reason and afforded their entitled civil rights.

Let's just be careful about how excited we are that the federal government is doing this ... because IMHO, it's wrong irrespective of the current White House occupant, or the cause being protested for or against.

 

[308pirate]

Also, the irony of Constitutional conservatives advocating for a secret police force taking away citizens in unmarked vehicles.

They aren't secret.

Unmarked vehicles for law enforcement? You don't say.......

 

[308pirate]

How about snipers taking out their leadership whenever they turn violent (every protest)?

I'll do it for free

 

[308pirate]

How would we all feel, if this was a Pro-2nd Amendment protest, and a Democratic administration injected unidentified armed officers in unmarked rental mini-vans for grab-and-go detainment and questioning in undisclosed locations.

We'd all be having kittens we'd be so mad. Wringing of hands ... Gnashing of teeth ... How could they ... Harrumph Harrumph !!!

Let's just remember that the civil rights that are trampled upon against people we don't like ... may someday be our own civil rights that are trampled upon.

These officers should be clearly badged with agency identification, their vehicles should be clearly marked, they should be operating in municipal territory with the knowledge and permission of local authorities, and everyone being detained should be told the reason and afforded their entitled civil rights.

Let's just be careful about how excited we are that the federal government is doing this ... because IMHO, it's wrong irrespective of the current White House occupant, or the cause being protested for or against.

So you're assuming that
A) The story is true and
B) If true, there were no warrants or probably cause to make arrests

As far as the rest (assuming this story is true)
1. You don't know how these cops were dressed. As far as I'm concerned a multicam uniform with police across the front and back and agency shoulder patches is good to go. Obviously ID credentials need to be carried but those are never on display

2. Police in this country have been using unmarked vehicles for all sorts of law enforcement functions for decades. That's a non starter.

3. Federal police have the right to operate without local government consent everywhere in the US except for indian reservations. Settled legal principle. Done.

4. How do you know, if this is even true, that those detained had their rights violated? Because some communists said so? LOL

 

[seanh]

Also, the irony of Constitutional conservatives advocating for a secret police force taking away citizens in unmarked vehicles.

Not citizens, terrorists...there terrorists Rainman

 

[buffalowinter]

Saw a clip this morning of an arrest. While the officers were wearing camo....de riguer for SWAT nowadays...they were wearing clearly visible yellow on black "POLICE" tapes on their uniforms. I'm not sure the officers have any choice anymore when serving warrants. It has become acceptable to swarm marked cars and regular uniformed officers while they attempt to serve warrants or enforce the law. Ironic how "defund the police" will inevitably increase a "police state" outcome.

 

[stangfish]

You have LEOs or CIA/FBI agents in every organization in our country. They will facilitate terrorist actions if it assist them in their goals. False Flags etc... .Pay attention to who has to abide by this law.
5 U.S. Code § 3331.

 

[Strykervet]

I think this is propaganda.

Best I can tell is every article about this revolves around one guy's complaint. One guy. And ACLU is suing, mayor is bitching, every "news" agency is reporting it, and it all comes down to this one guy's complaint and his dark video.

Sounds to me like they were looking for someone, he wasn't it, and this is what he made of it. There are no other complaints or people saying they were snatched, just this one.

 

[lash]

Well first off, realize the originators of the story are a propaganda rag. Then notice how in the opening paragraph it’s mentioned that the two “innocents” were just leaving a protest at the federal courthouse. Later on it is stated and restated that they were just innocent bystanders that just happened to be wearing black and walking in the area. Yeah, right.

 

[ken226]

 

[SilentStalkr]

Ok, here is part of the issue, my idea of unmarked vans and people rounding them up are way different than the pics I’m seeing. I read somewhere that it was guys camo’d out like some teams guys in blacked out unmarked vans lmao. What I’m seeing is entirely different than that description. An unmarked soccer mom van with a uniformed officer inside is way different lol than what I was thinking this was when I read initial reports days ago.

Are we sure this ain’t some fed up guys like AJ running around playing the police lmao?

 

[kortik]

In late 1930s, relatively small group of Jewish gansters, with blessing from the officials, destroyed most of the Nazi movement in the U.S. Then, if I recall it correctly, in 1960s (?) Italian gansters hit KKK real hard, and again, with blessing from the officials. Nobody else, except for the intended targets, got hurt.

Same happened many times around the world, and it worked just fine...

As far as I'm concerned, this is a great way to deal with our internal enemies, aka enemies of the people ( fake Antifa, BLM and all other leftist POS).

 

[OldSalty]

What if i prefer to jump to conclusions or pick a side before any facts are presented?

 

[lash]

What if i prefer to jump to conclusions or pick a side before any facts are presented?

Then you would be just like the rest of the country right now and are a perfect audience for what is going on right now.

 

[seanh]

Those unmarked fans need to Simply show up at Mom and Dad's house... put a bullet in the skull of the terrorist supporters...leave the bodies.

People that don't like that attitude fuck off. Police your own or somebody's going to do it for you.

 

[Arc Light]

Fuck 'em. We're in war with leftist scum for the survival of our country. Nothing less is at stake. I'm supposed to worry about how Antifa terrorists are treated, LOL.

They started the war, remember that. I'm not willing to get too concerned about the "rights" of terrorists that want to destroy our country and loot, pillage, and murder anyone who disagrees with them. Let's not lose sight of the bigger picture.

 

[DuneBoer]

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You’re attitude is why the constitution has been destroyed.

Tear a little piece off each time to get them bootleggers / molesters / druggies / terrorists etc.

People with your attitude are going to help add gun owners / constitutionalists / and other wrong thinkers to the list of “people that don’t deserve due process”


SMFH

There is no due process on a battlefield. By all means, add gun owners/constitutionlists and the rest to the list. Lets quit fingerfucking this thing and get on with it.

 

[deersniper]

There is no due process on a battlefield. By all means, add gun owners/constitutionlists and the rest to the list. Lets quit fingerfucking this thing and get on with it.

We aren’t on a battlefield


But your attitude is part of the reason the left and statist have mass spying on US citizens right now.

 

[308pirate]

We aren’t on a battlefield

Wake up

 

[308pirate]

Then you would be just like the rest of the country right now and are a perfect audience for what is going on right now.

Your sarcasm detector is broken

 

[lash]

Your sarcasm detector is broken

Lol, not at all. He proposed a hypothetical what if and I answered, hypothetically speaking of course.

 

[Snipe260]

How would we all feel, if this was a Pro-2nd Amendment protest, and a Democratic administration injected unidentified armed officers in unmarked rental mini-vans for grab-and-go detainment and questioning in undisclosed locations.

We'd all be having kittens we'd be so mad. Wringing of hands ... Gnashing of teeth ... How could they ... Harrumph Harrumph !!!

Let's just remember that the civil rights that are trampled upon against people we don't like ... may someday be our own civil rights that are trampled upon.

These officers should be clearly badged with agency identification, their vehicles should be clearly marked, they should be operating in municipal territory with the knowledge and permission of local authorities, and everyone being detained should be told the reason and afforded their entitled civil rights.

Let's just be careful about how excited we are that the federal government is doing this ... because IMHO, it's wrong irrespective of the current White House occupant, or the cause being protested for or against.

We would not be attacking, burning, looting and blocking highways. There’s a big difference ! I know you said Democrats! But they would mean they were attacking us! Since we were abiding by the law