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Re: fire form?????
ummmmm...................................are you using a full length sizing die? or a neck sizing die? Are you shooting this out of an ar15 platform? Full length sizing is as it sounds, sizes entire case. Neck sizing, your only sizing the neck. If you are new to the reloading game, i am going to assume you are, you are going to wanna do A LOT of reading.
ummmmm...................................are you using a full length sizing die? or a neck sizing die? Are you shooting this out of an ar15 platform? Full length sizing is as it sounds, sizes entire case. Neck sizing, your only sizing the neck. If you are new to the reloading game, i am going to assume you are, you are going to wanna do A LOT of reading.
Re: fire form?????
If you do a Full length size, your case will no longer be formed to the chamber of your rifle, unless you have a very tight chamber with the same dimensions as your die.
If you have a factory rifle, every time you shoot, the brass expands to fit the chamber. By running it into the SAAMI spec die you will compress the brass back to SAAMI size, which is most likely smaller than your factory chamber since factory chambers are made to tolerances slightly larger to accommodate a variety of ammo without issues.
If you do a Full length size, your case will no longer be formed to the chamber of your rifle, unless you have a very tight chamber with the same dimensions as your die.
If you have a factory rifle, every time you shoot, the brass expands to fit the chamber. By running it into the SAAMI spec die you will compress the brass back to SAAMI size, which is most likely smaller than your factory chamber since factory chambers are made to tolerances slightly larger to accommodate a variety of ammo without issues.
Re: fire form?????
Nice punctuation. Im not trying to be a smart ass, but if you are not new to reloading then you should know the answer to this. No one that I know of uses neck sized only brass in a semi auto. That is asking for a feeding problem due to the ability (or lack thereof) of the bolt to close on a piece of brass that is tight in the chamber. That is not an issue in bolt guns where you can force the bolt to close on brass that is tight in the chamber. But I am sure that you already know that since you are not new to reloading......so exactly what was your question again???
Nice punctuation. Im not trying to be a smart ass, but if you are not new to reloading then you should know the answer to this. No one that I know of uses neck sized only brass in a semi auto. That is asking for a feeding problem due to the ability (or lack thereof) of the bolt to close on a piece of brass that is tight in the chamber. That is not an issue in bolt guns where you can force the bolt to close on brass that is tight in the chamber. But I am sure that you already know that since you are not new to reloading......so exactly what was your question again???
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Re: fire form?????
the ???? is i cant seem to find just neck sizing dies for the grendel,they are all full length....but its no biggie i didnt relise this was gonna turn into a i know more then you thred thanks though....but i also had the worries about the chambering issuies that you just mentioned as well
the ???? is i cant seem to find just neck sizing dies for the grendel,they are all full length....but its no biggie i didnt relise this was gonna turn into a i know more then you thred thanks though....but i also had the worries about the chambering issuies that you just mentioned as well
Re: fire form?????
Deep breath brother.... these guys are real knowledgeable and will happily help out, your OP was just pretty difficult to decipher. No need for feelings to be hurt here—no real insult intended man.
Deep breath brother.... these guys are real knowledgeable and will happily help out, your OP was just pretty difficult to decipher. No need for feelings to be hurt here—no real insult intended man.
Re: fire form?????
Sorry you feel that way. The reason you dont see 6.5G neck only dies anywhere you look is that this is typically a chambering in semi auto rifles. According to basic reloading texts (and on up), you need to FL size ammo you are loading to use in semi auto rifles so that you will not have feeding issues. I am sure that you can have Redding, RCBS, etc make you a 6.5G neck sizing only die but in the end you will want to FL size the cases for reasons of feeding reliably.
Sorry you feel that way. The reason you dont see 6.5G neck only dies anywhere you look is that this is typically a chambering in semi auto rifles. According to basic reloading texts (and on up), you need to FL size ammo you are loading to use in semi auto rifles so that you will not have feeding issues. I am sure that you can have Redding, RCBS, etc make you a 6.5G neck sizing only die but in the end you will want to FL size the cases for reasons of feeding reliably.
Re: fire form?????
If you can find a 6.5 neck die that is shorter and fatter than the grendel you should be able to neck size by setting the die in the right spot, somewhat higher than it would be for its intended ctg.
If you can find a 6.5 neck die that is shorter and fatter than the grendel you should be able to neck size by setting the die in the right spot, somewhat higher than it would be for its intended ctg.
Re: fire form?????
The brass becomes "fire formed" to your chamber when the round goes off.
The only way to maintain the desired fire formed dimensions (primarily shoulder location in the chamber) is to neck size.
Neck sizing for a semi auto is not recommended as it can cause feeding issues.
If you need to go the neck size route Lee will make you a custom collet neck die for a minimal charge. I've never seen a Redding S die for the 7.62 x 39 but if you could find one you could use a neck bushing for a 6.5mm case (260 Remington) with that die.
The brass becomes "fire formed" to your chamber when the round goes off.
The only way to maintain the desired fire formed dimensions (primarily shoulder location in the chamber) is to neck size.
Neck sizing for a semi auto is not recommended as it can cause feeding issues.
If you need to go the neck size route Lee will make you a custom collet neck die for a minimal charge. I've never seen a Redding S die for the 7.62 x 39 but if you could find one you could use a neck bushing for a 6.5mm case (260 Remington) with that die.
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