First dot drill attempt.
After shooting the 4 at the sighter, I moved the scope 2 clicks down and started shooting.
After shooting the 4 at the sighter, I moved the scope 2 clicks down and started shooting.
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Re: First dot-drill attempt
Tougher than it looks eh? I'm lucky if I get half touching.
Keep on practicing, and maybe a click right.
Tougher than it looks eh? I'm lucky if I get half touching.
Keep on practicing, and maybe a click right.
Re: First dot-drill attempt
Start with the 1" dots, and then after your nailing them consistently, move tot he 1/2".
That 1/2" dot drill is a bitch.
Start with the 1" dots, and then after your nailing them consistently, move tot he 1/2".
That 1/2" dot drill is a bitch.
Re: First dot-drill attempt
Sign up the the online training. It has helped me tremendously. Good tips in there!
Sign up the the online training. It has helped me tremendously. Good tips in there!
Re: First dot-drill attempt
I'm signed up and trying to put the lessons into use.
I'm still having a hard time with it, but I also am not much of a "rifle guy" at this point. The majority of my rifle shooting has either been .22lr, or shooting centerfires from the bench for load testing - which has proven mostly a waste of time - good rifles shoot good and those that aren't, don't.
Very little "practical" rifle practice - can't bring the bench with you.
But without being too smug, I would rate myself as much better than average with a revolver.
I'm signed up and trying to put the lessons into use.
I'm still having a hard time with it, but I also am not much of a "rifle guy" at this point. The majority of my rifle shooting has either been .22lr, or shooting centerfires from the bench for load testing - which has proven mostly a waste of time - good rifles shoot good and those that aren't, don't.
Very little "practical" rifle practice - can't bring the bench with you.
But without being too smug, I would rate myself as much better than average with a revolver.
Re: First dot-drill attempt
I should add - target was fired prone, 100yds, Rem 700 5R Milspec .308, Leup VXIII 6.5x20x40, low Leup 30mm rings, BRM-S w/pod lock, sand sock, 175SMK, 40gr Varget, milsurp LC brass, cci lrp, 2.815",
Definitely me, not the gun.
I should add - target was fired prone, 100yds, Rem 700 5R Milspec .308, Leup VXIII 6.5x20x40, low Leup 30mm rings, BRM-S w/pod lock, sand sock, 175SMK, 40gr Varget, milsurp LC brass, cci lrp, 2.815",
Definitely me, not the gun.
Re: First dot-drill attempt
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=973070&page=1
dot targets
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=973070&page=1
dot targets
Re: First dot-drill attempt
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cinosbus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Definitely me, not the gun.</div></div>The vertical is breathing.
The yanking left is trigger.
The inconsistency is NPA.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cinosbus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Definitely me, not the gun.</div></div>The vertical is breathing.
The yanking left is trigger.
The inconsistency is NPA.
Re: First dot-drill attempt
don't take this the wrong way, as I mean nothing bad by it, but until you can get a better grouping at 100 yards, this drill may not be the best for you. I think it will frustrate you more than anything.
With that being said, I think you should work on shooting groups more than anything right now. Develop a good load for your rifle. Basically, get the foundation set before you start trying to roof.
Just my opinion.
At least you are shooting though, more than I can say at this point. The past couple of years have sucked.
don't take this the wrong way, as I mean nothing bad by it, but until you can get a better grouping at 100 yards, this drill may not be the best for you. I think it will frustrate you more than anything.
With that being said, I think you should work on shooting groups more than anything right now. Develop a good load for your rifle. Basically, get the foundation set before you start trying to roof.
Just my opinion.
At least you are shooting though, more than I can say at this point. The past couple of years have sucked.
Re: First dot-drill attempt
As of now, your grouping for the zero target is about 1 MOA give and take. If your ammo, gun, or operator can only get 1 MOA, then shooting a 1/2 MOA target can be frustrating to say the least. But then again, practice makes perfect, I suppose. Good luck.
As of now, your grouping for the zero target is about 1 MOA give and take. If your ammo, gun, or operator can only get 1 MOA, then shooting a 1/2 MOA target can be frustrating to say the least. But then again, practice makes perfect, I suppose. Good luck.
Re: First dot-drill attempt
With what (rifle/irons/scope)and how (bags/bipod/benchrest/offhand)?
With what (rifle/irons/scope)and how (bags/bipod/benchrest/offhand)?
Re: First dot-drill attempt
The dot target is a challange. Have not seen to many that are clean.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With what (rifle/irons/scope)and how (bags/bipod/benchrest/offhand)?</div></div>
Not being ugly but some fail to read <span style="text-decoration: underline">all the post in a thread</span> and then post questions on topics that were already covered.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I should add - target was fired prone, 100yds, Rem 700 5R Milspec .308, Leup VXIII 6.5x20x40, low Leup 30mm rings, BRM-S w/pod lock, sand sock, 175SMK, 40gr Varget, milsurp LC brass, cci lrp, 2.815",</div></div>
The dot target is a challange. Have not seen to many that are clean.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With what (rifle/irons/scope)and how (bags/bipod/benchrest/offhand)?</div></div>
Not being ugly but some fail to read <span style="text-decoration: underline">all the post in a thread</span> and then post questions on topics that were already covered.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I should add - target was fired prone, 100yds, Rem 700 5R Milspec .308, Leup VXIII 6.5x20x40, low Leup 30mm rings, BRM-S w/pod lock, sand sock, 175SMK, 40gr Varget, milsurp LC brass, cci lrp, 2.815",</div></div>
Re: First dot-drill attempt
My SPS Varmint (an admittedly less-cool 700) hated 175gr bullets in almost any ammo I tried. I could do a little with 150gr stuff, but it loved the 168gr ammo from 3 different manufacturers (put it in an HS-Precision stock and not nearly the gain in accuracy I had hoped for). Turns out my chamber on the factory barrel was fairly out of spec (rifling and ID of the barrel were fine for a factory varmint, but the chamber was really bad).
I had the action trued and was changing the barrel anyways, but my smith told me that with the barrel I had, a re-cut of the chamber would have helped quite a bit.
You might have a smith look at your chamber and if needed, get the chamber re-cut on your existing barrel - its not too expensive and if your smith can blueprint the action while its apart, then you're saving on labor and killing two birds with one stone.
Just from reading the net and personal experience with friends who have all purchased 700s, Remington appears to be pretty sloppy with the QC in a lot of different rifles, but I don't know if this applies to your 5R - actually, I would hope not to be honest.
My SPS Varmint (an admittedly less-cool 700) hated 175gr bullets in almost any ammo I tried. I could do a little with 150gr stuff, but it loved the 168gr ammo from 3 different manufacturers (put it in an HS-Precision stock and not nearly the gain in accuracy I had hoped for). Turns out my chamber on the factory barrel was fairly out of spec (rifling and ID of the barrel were fine for a factory varmint, but the chamber was really bad).
I had the action trued and was changing the barrel anyways, but my smith told me that with the barrel I had, a re-cut of the chamber would have helped quite a bit.
You might have a smith look at your chamber and if needed, get the chamber re-cut on your existing barrel - its not too expensive and if your smith can blueprint the action while its apart, then you're saving on labor and killing two birds with one stone.
Just from reading the net and personal experience with friends who have all purchased 700s, Remington appears to be pretty sloppy with the QC in a lot of different rifles, but I don't know if this applies to your 5R - actually, I would hope not to be honest.
Re: First dot-drill attempt
Try shifting your focus to the cross hairs right before you take the shot. I agree that you should start with 1 inch dots. Until you can make one hole shot groups, the 1/2 inch dots is kinda a waste.
Keep practicing!
Try shifting your focus to the cross hairs right before you take the shot. I agree that you should start with 1 inch dots. Until you can make one hole shot groups, the 1/2 inch dots is kinda a waste.
Keep practicing!
Re: First dot-drill attempt
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's not a rifle problem. </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's not a rifle problem. </div></div>
Re: First dot-drill attempt
I'll upload my 2nd attempt when I get home. Got 8 out of 15 on that one.
I have fired .6ish groups from the bench with this combo, and I know there's more there with a different shooter.
You could shoot a .8 group and touch a .5" dot with every shot from a .30 caliber rifle.
I'll upload my 2nd attempt when I get home. Got 8 out of 15 on that one.
I have fired .6ish groups from the bench with this combo, and I know there's more there with a different shooter.
You could shoot a .8 group and touch a .5" dot with every shot from a .30 caliber rifle.
Re: First dot-drill attempt
Here's #2 try. More details in the separate thread. It was raining.
[img:center]http://www.snipershide.com/forum/gallery/27/medium/2739.jpg[/img]
Here's #2 try. More details in the separate thread. It was raining.
[img:center]http://www.snipershide.com/forum/gallery/27/medium/2739.jpg[/img]
Re: First dot-drill attempt
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tougher than it looks eh? I'm lucky if I get half touching.
Keep on practicing, and maybe a click right. </div></div>
2 clicks right helped....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tougher than it looks eh? I'm lucky if I get half touching.
Keep on practicing, and maybe a click right. </div></div>
2 clicks right helped....
Re: First dot-drill attempt
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TBass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Heck of an improvement
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Thanks. First attempt was more of an experiment than a full fledged "attempt".
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TBass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Heck of an improvement
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Thanks. First attempt was more of an experiment than a full fledged "attempt".
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