First LRP Rifle

[Scott14]

Hi all. New to the forum and first post. I've been involved with shooting and guns my entire my life, but shooting "long range" is something I've never had the opportunity to really do. It's always been something i wanted to get involved in and now I'm at a point where I can start investing in the right tools for the job. All i have access to at this very second is a 500 yard range and am looking for an area to shoot 1,000 yards. 1,000 yards being the goal. Being new to the LRP shooting, I would like your thoughts and opinions and suggestions.
As far as the rifle itself, right now I'm looking at "production" rifles (not customs) chambered in 6.5 creedmor, and due to my budget, I've been looking at 3 options. Ruger Precision Rifle, Bergara Premier LRP and the Seekins Havoc. At this time, I do not have the resources to handle or shoot these guns. I've done some research, but what are your thoughts/opinions on these for starting out?
I know, i know....it's whatever you shoot best or feels best. lol. I'm just looking for honest opinions from experienced people. I am open to suggestions on other rifles as well. I want quality, reliability and accuracy to start with, with the option to upgrade the chassis, barrel, etc. if i wanted to. Thank you for your opinions.

 

[Steel head]

I started with less.
A savage, still shoot it.

All three of your choices won’t hold you back, buy the one you like most.
Ruger has pre fits so rebarreling it is a breeze.
Not sure about the Seekins rebarreling but he definitely makes some nice stuff.

6.5CM is a great cartridge to start with.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

It's a toss up. Try to get hands on all three and maybe one will stand out.

Cue Tikka fans in 3...2...

 

[Coyote-6]

Seekins.

Not impressed with the RPR. It's good, but meh. Bergara is second, but only because the barrel replacements are a little more limited (look up any HMR thread and you'll see why).

The seekins is a 700 clone which means your life is easier, and I think the action might be a bit better than the rest of these. Plus most options for a chassis if you want to go that route.

Edit: Look at the PX here too. Lots of good guns going for 1.5-2k. Also if you're military, then look at the savage 110 elite precision. You'd get 30% off.

 

[Rocketmandb]

Look at the Pro/Premiere models of Bergara. Better bolt, better trigger. I used to own a Bergara HMR Pro and liked it quite a bit.

 

[Scott14]

Thanks for everybody's opinion. I'm slowly ruling out the RPR. I'm getting the impression the seekins or bergara are just better quality rifles out of the box.

 

[Steel head]

Thanks for everybody's opinion. I'm slowly ruling out the RPR. I'm getting the impression the seekins or bergara are just better quality rifles out of the box.

I think so.

 

[Ranger Bob]

This was just announced so it may be a month or two before you can get your hands on one. For the money, it will be very hard to beat. MSRP $1500

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[Greg Langelius *]

Long range is as much about extending the cartridge's performance envelope as it is about the distance itself. Many of the challenges that a 1000yd capable cartridge faces are also present in smaller chamberings at more reachable and affordable distances.

I suggest consideration of the ubiquitous 223 chambering.

A) It's as challenging to shoot at 500-600yd as the 6.5CM can be at 1000yd. I've done both, except my 6.5 was the 260.

B) It's cheaper to shoot, and can often be done with a considerably smaller equipment expenditure than a fully capable 6.5CM.

C) It makes for a pretty respectable trainup rifle until you can go with the fully capable 6.5CM; and once you have that, it's still an excellent practice chambering.

D) Accuracy is about consistency. Read that again, because it is a key truth.

Whether the system can achieve 1MOA or 2MOA (or 3MOA?); as long as it's consistent, practice improvements and setbacks can be seen and recognized. There can be times when very tight accuracy can be less informative, and it can also be unnecessarily discouraging; especially when the culprit is conditions, and not the shooter (remember, whether the goal is 1MOA or 2MOA, the random wind deflection is the same in either case).

The 2MOA goal and capability may actually be better at depicting the shooter's true performance than the 1MOA capability and goal under such circumstances, since it can reduce the overall effect of random wind on consistency. This might permit a lesser equipment expenditure on the trainer rifle.

This is my main argument against massive expenditures being attempted in order to achieve identical performance and ergonomics between a match rifle, and a practice rifle. It just isn't all that relevant.

Remember, it's consistency, and not pure accuracy that defines the better trainer rifle. Marksmanship is marksmanship, independent of the platform.

Greg

 

[CaptNemo]

It's a toss up. Try to get hands on all three and maybe one will stand out.

Cue Tikka fans in 3...2...

Tikka fan as well...
Vastly upgradable as your budget allows. Aftermarket support is growing because they’re a great rifle at a reasonable cost.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Deadline has a really nice Custom Tikka pattern Action, match barrel, And trigger tech for 999.99

Drop that in a Bravo and and slap a brake on it and your shooting full match grade custom for same as these.

 

[Coyote-6]

Deadline has a really nice Custom Tikka pattern Action, match barrel, And trigger tech for 999.99

Drop that in a Bravo and and slap a brake on it and your shooting full match grade custom for same as these.

Can you link that? If you're talking Ultimatum Deadline, that's $1500 for the barreled action alone. Just the action is $999.99.

 

[z28kid]

I know it's not on your list, but I'd recommend the Remington 700 sps tactical. It's about 620 on buds gun.
That leaves more room for a better scope and lots of ammo to learn, or you can buy a Manners stock and trigger for about 900 (used off here) more and still be cheaper than a havak with the better stock.

You said you are new here, so the rule of thumb is 2x on Optic what you spent on your rifle. Cheapest scope I'd recommend would be the Vortex Viper PST Gen II series.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Can you link that? If you're talking Ultimatum Deadline, that's $1500 for the barreled action alone. Just the action is $999.99.

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**PLEASE NOTE** This is only the DEPOSIT on a DeFacto barreled action. The remaining $500.00 USD will be charged before final shipping of your order. The total price is $999.99 USD for DeFacto Barreled action WITH trigger. NEW ETA: FEBRUARY 2021 Ultimatum Precision Inc. is proud to introduce a...

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It was on the Book of Faces.

 

[Steel head]

They are gonna sell a lot of those!

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

They are gonna sell a lot of those!

If I didnt just pick up a Nuke I would be all over it.

 

[Coyote-6]

Ok so the DeFacto BA, not the Deadline. Big difference.

 

[308pirate]

I would put the Howa 1500 in 6.5 or 6 mm Creedmoor on your list.

You can buy it already with KRG's Bravo chassis or you can buy a barreled action and drop it into one of several chassis options (KRG, MDT)

 

[seansmd]

Buy used, as you have read lots of options all will work. This will free up $$ for the optics which will be your next post.

 

[Scott14]

Thanks everyone. Still going to continue my reading and research but I appreciate everyone's input. Gonna look into tika a little more.