I have a good remington 700 that has had alot of work done to it. I do not know all it has had because I bought it used. But it holds less than a half inch at a hundred. Even with a ok scope. Well yesterday I got on a range lease out by seagoville, tx. And this morning I went out and they had some gongs out past 400 yards. And it took me a few shots but once I dialed in I was on the money. There is nothing more satisfying than hearing the gong after a shot. NOTHING! Well maybe a night with britney spears before she went all crazy, but other than that nothing.