I started out sizing my cases using a non-bushing FL die. I later learned that a Bushing FL die was better because you could set your neck to the desired tension.
As life rolled on, I moved into the next phase of turning my necks. What I learned next was the a small amount of area near the mouth of the neck would not get turned unless i trimmed off a whole lot more of the case neck than what i am comfortable with (neck thickness is now down to appx .013 on a 6.5 Creedmoor. The reason for this is that the bushing does not size the whole neck like a non-bushing FL die does. Instead, it just sizes appx the last .25" of the neck and the mandrel doesnt really push it back out level with the rest of the neck.
I know there are those who like turning necks and those who think it is a waste of time. I started turning necks because, while my loads are quite accurate (consisently at around .75 MOA), i get the odd flyer that i attribute to inconsistent neck tension. My goal with turning is to even out neck tension so the bullets release in a more consistent manner. Earlier, I took this process one step further by taking 20 Lapua brass that has been fired 6 times and put them through the following steps ... anneal, reamed (using LE Wilson neck reamer), sized them (using a bushing die), ran a mandrel through them and then turned them before finally loading powder and bullets. I was impressed with the result. I shot all 20 at 600yds and the result was a appx .6MOA group, an ES of 22, SD of 6.6 and most importantly NO fliers. For a single group of 20 shots, i was happy with these results.
In talking with some others who are more experienced than myself, they told me that if I want to turn the full neck, i need to go back to a FL sizing die without bushings hence the question.
Just interested in others experiences and what made them decide to user a FL sizing die with bushings or without bushings.
As life rolled on, I moved into the next phase of turning my necks. What I learned next was the a small amount of area near the mouth of the neck would not get turned unless i trimmed off a whole lot more of the case neck than what i am comfortable with (neck thickness is now down to appx .013 on a 6.5 Creedmoor. The reason for this is that the bushing does not size the whole neck like a non-bushing FL die does. Instead, it just sizes appx the last .25" of the neck and the mandrel doesnt really push it back out level with the rest of the neck.
I know there are those who like turning necks and those who think it is a waste of time. I started turning necks because, while my loads are quite accurate (consisently at around .75 MOA), i get the odd flyer that i attribute to inconsistent neck tension. My goal with turning is to even out neck tension so the bullets release in a more consistent manner. Earlier, I took this process one step further by taking 20 Lapua brass that has been fired 6 times and put them through the following steps ... anneal, reamed (using LE Wilson neck reamer), sized them (using a bushing die), ran a mandrel through them and then turned them before finally loading powder and bullets. I was impressed with the result. I shot all 20 at 600yds and the result was a appx .6MOA group, an ES of 22, SD of 6.6 and most importantly NO fliers. For a single group of 20 shots, i was happy with these results.
In talking with some others who are more experienced than myself, they told me that if I want to turn the full neck, i need to go back to a FL sizing die without bushings hence the question.
Just interested in others experiences and what made them decide to user a FL sizing die with bushings or without bushings.
