Hunting & Fishing For hogs.....6.5 Grendel or 6.8 SPC AR?

[WtxShooter]

As it says, I'm thinking of getting a dedicated rifle for hog hunts, and was curious for you guys opinion, since I have no experience with either. Which one is better for this? 6.5 Grendel or 6.8 SPC? It will be shot 100% of the time suppressed, so reliable cycling while suppressed is a must. What are you guys preferences and why?

 

[Dogsniper]

Both are great. Pick one and run it. The Grendel doesn’t out run the spc until you get past 400 yards. Both kill hogs.
I run the spc .

 

[WtxShooter]

Most of the shooting is easily within 150 yards. Is there an advantage of one versus the other? The biggest advantage I’ve seen so far is that there is more 6.8 ammo available at my local shops. Lol

 

[flyer]

I'm not sure about the Grendle but the 6.8 SPC seems perfect for the Barnes TTSX which is a damn good killer and as said, it will have more velocity unless you're trying to stretch it really far.

I know the 6.5 Grendle has it's fan but for your purpose, you can't go wrong with 6.8 SPC.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

I'm not sure about the Grendle but the 6.8 SPC seems perfect for the Barnes TTSX which is a damn good killer and as said, it will have more velocity unless you're trying to stretch it really far.

I know the 6.5 Grendle has it's fan but for your purpose, you can't go wrong with 6.8 SPC.

*Grendel

Please.

 

[flyer]

Nope. I'll misspell it however I please.

 

[Dogsniper]

Most of the shooting is easily within 150 yards. Is there an advantage of one versus the other? The biggest advantage I’ve seen so far is that there is more 6.8 ammo available at my local shops. Lol

6.8 spc 2
120 sst
18” pipe = dead pigs?
Just don’t get cheap mags and you will love it.

 

[jwhjwh54]

killed 9 the other night with my 6.8 love it
Bison armory 11.5 upper
TBAC CB7
Hornady SST 120
PRI mags

 

[SkyScrapin]

My preferred pig killing stick

6.8 SPC 2
12.5” ARP
PRI mags
Surefire Mini2 Suppressor
ReapIR

 

[shooter65]

300 HAM'R

 

[WtxShooter]

So who do you guys recommend for a good quality, reliable and accurate 6.8 SPC?

 

[rangerlong]

Check out ar15performance.com. They seem to be a good bang for the buck option for 6.8.
Inside 150 yards you'll never know the difference, but if you ever want to do any target shooting at longer ranges the 6.5 bullet selection is much larger, and they have a higher ballistic coefficient at the same weight.

 

[ccasanova]

You can’t really go wrong either way. For under 150yd a suppressed SBR setup is ideal. 11” Alexander Arms 6.5G Upper with SiCo Omega is pleasant to shoot and tough on hogs. There is a tangible increase in recoil vs 5.56 which decreases my accurate rate of fire in exchange for more oomph. I like it though.

 

[Lthrt]

Grendel rifles, ammo & mags are more available and cost less.

 

[Dogsniper]

So who do you guys recommend for a good quality, reliable and accurate 6.8 SPC?

I’m running a noveske. But I think you could build one from palmetto state Armory for less that wouldn’t shoot much different for killing hogs at a fraction of the price.

 

[Dogsniper]

Check out ar15performance.com. They seem to be a good bang for the buck option for 6.8.
Inside 150 yards you'll never know the difference, but if you ever want to do any target shooting at longer ranges the 6.5 bullet selection is much larger, and they have a higher ballistic coefficient at the same weight.

If you want to go 6.5 for distance, better build a light weight 6.5 creed and smoke the Grendel

 

[rangerlong]

If you want to go 6.5 for distance, better build a light weight 6.5 creed and smoke the Grendel

6.5cm will make hogs just as dead and smoke the 6.8spc too, but not from an AR15.
I’m not sure how the 6.5cm being better than 6.5 grendel matters when comparing it to the 6.8spc.
6.5 Grendel’s bullet selection benefits greatly from riding 6.5cm’s coattails.
On that day when the op decides to push out a bit further he’ll be happy there are 120-130gr .264 match bullets out there.
Where are the high bc .277 bullets?

 

[Dogsniper]

6.5cm will make hogs just as dead and smoke the 6.8spc too, but not from an AR15.
I’m not sure how the 6.5cm being better than 6.5 grendel matters when comparing it to the 6.8spc.
6.5 Grendel’s bullet selection benefits greatly from riding 6.5cm’s coattails.
On that day when the op decides to push out a bit further he’ll be happy there are 120-130gr .264 match bullets out there.
Where are the high bc .277 bullets?

Yes they are about the same to 400 yards. The Grendel will pull away from the spc after that, does have better bc. I was just stating if I was really needing to push a 6.5 to distance I would opt for a creed over a Grendel in a light weight ar10.
Out to 400 I believe it is a wash. Past that for hunting I want more fps.

 

[deersniper]

^these people know nothing.

Get a 300 blackout. Black tips will smoke hogs.

And you have the commercial support of common ammo/rifles/mags/etc

 

[Dogsniper]

^these people know nothing.

Get a 300 blackout. Black tips will smoke hogs.

And you have the commercial support of common ammo/rifles/mags/etc

I had a buddy just put 9 rounds in a charging pig. I had to hit him with the 6.8 to put him down ?

 

[deersniper]

#shotplacement

Not sure if srs tho

 

[deersniper]

 

[jwhjwh54]

Can’t tell if trolling

Barnes black tips be expensive

These and plenty of others this year didn’t have any issues with 6.8 Spc

 

[Dogsniper]

#shotplacement

Not sure if srs tho

He was using 110 vmax not the black tip

 

[SkyScrapin]

^these people know nothing.

#FacePalm

For the love of god, pick anything but the 300blk.

@Dogsniper Off the shelf rifles work great, but most people forget that night hunting isn’t LR related in most cases. You are best served going Form1 and building a 11-12.5” SPC or Grendel especially if you are shooting inside of 300 yards.

The reality is, Grendel and SPC are both great performers for pigs. Pick your poison - and go.

 

[Dogsniper]

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I get over 2800 with 90 gr. Reloads and h322

 

[deersniper]

A quality bullet out of a 300 bo is going to kill hogs.


You guys are fanbois to the max of those botique calipers. He said 150 yards.

 

[Dogsniper]

A quality bullet out of a 300 bo is going to kill hogs.


You guys are fanbois to the max of those botique calipers. He said 150 yards.

Lol. I have a 16” 300 blk
And I just built a 7.5” pistol in 300 blk.
I like the round but my experience has been the 6.8 has been more effective most of the time with identical shot placement.
They all kill pigs and so does the 7.62x39.

 

[Bradu]

6.8 spc 2
120 sst
18” pipe = dead pigs?
Just don’t get cheap mags and you will love it.

I wasn't impressed with the sst's in my 6.8 on deer. I was going to try a barnes but ended up selling the rifle to my brother.

 

[SkyScrapin]

You guys are fanbois to the max of those botique calipers.

Jesus Christ. Can’t help retarded. Coming from someone who lives 1000 miles from pig country, no less.

 

[deersniper]

I wish I was closer I'd bring a 223 and show yall shot placement > caliber

 

[Dogsniper]

I wasn't impressed with the sst's in my 6.8 on deer. I was going to try a barnes but ended up selling the rifle to my brother.

I have never shot a deer with mine.
Does your brother like it?

 

[Bradu]

I have never shot a deer with mine.
Does your brother like it?

He probably hasn't shot 100 rounds through it in the 3 years that he's had it. He panicks at the mention of a ban and I decided to sell it. It was a factory built noveske Afghan from when John was still alive.

 

[jwhjwh54]

We've had no issues with 6.8 SST on deer. We're also not shooting over 150 yards though. My bison armory 6.8 shoots better than my browning a bolt 7mm-08

 

[newguy2k3v2]

I've killed probably hundreds of hogs with a 10" 300blk. 110vmax @2300 or 125 sst or nosler bt@2100. The VMAX are deadly but definitely don't penetrate enough on larger pigs. Black tips probably do work amazing but I'm not paying that much for a bullet to put in a damn hog.
I built a 12" 6.5g and it's working well. Doesn't give up much to a 6.8 up close but gaps it on longer shots.

95% of my hunting is with NV, ir lasers, suppressors and >150yds.

I went with 6.5g over 6.8 because I already load 6.5c and some bullets crossover.

 

[fanninland]

So who do you guys recommend for a good quality, reliable and accurate 6.8 SPC?

If you are putting it together I suggest buying a 12.5” barrel & headspaced “superbolt” from Harrison @ ARP (ar15performance.com) These barrels are very popular with hog hunters here in TX, are often out of stock, don’t last long when in stock.

If you prefer someone else to do it talk to Eric at blackstonearms.com - he’ll build an ARP barreled upper you can put on the pistol/brace or sbr lower of your choosing.

Since it’s a dedicated hog gun to be always suppressed (which is the only way to roll with a 12” barreled hog gun) I’d go ahead and sbr the lower - I saw on the suppressor subforum that e-form filed Form 1’s are clearing in just weeks as opposed to months).

 

[TA-TX]

Just ran across this thread...good discussion. Hogs are a blast to hunt and we have an endless supply here in central Texas. My brother and I have hunted them together for 20 years and have run AR-15s for the past 5 or so. He uses a 300 blackout and I shoot 6.8 SPC II, both suppressed. You can’t go wrong with either one under 150 yards. We have killed 100s of pigs with those guns. Lots of great bullets for hogs...Barnes, Hornady, etc.

We both switched from the 223 because it didn’t have enough punch for hog hunting. Shot placement is nice in theory but when you walk up on a herd of pigs at night that scatters in all directions, you don’t always have that luxury. Even with the 6.8 I have dropped a 400 lb boar with a shot behind the ear only to have him get up and charge us. Took 6 shots to bring him down. They are some of the toughest animals I’ve ever seen. Btw, I recommend always carrying a pistol if you’re on foot.

As for buying/building the gun, it’s really not too hard to put one together. As others have said, AR performance are some of the best barrels for the money. Anything from 16” to 12.5” is good, especially if running suppressed which I recommend. Palmetto State Armory has good deals on decent uppers and lowers. There are tons of good butt stocks and hand guards. Put a good Geissele trigger in it and an adjustable gas block to compensate for the suppressor and you’ll have as good a hog gun as you can buy anywhere. Happy to provide more details on a build. Happy hunting!

 

[atepointer]

Most of the shooting is easily within 150 yards. Is there an advantage of one versus the other? The biggest advantage I’ve seen so far is that there is more 6.8 ammo available at my local shops. Lol

You are in prime hog country I mean we have them bad in FL, but you guys are like the scene out of Aliens when they are dropping out of the ceiling. My buddy in Dallas owns one of the biggest thermal dealers in the country and he can and does shoot what he wants he's been in the NV/thermal game 15 years now and tried everything under the 'moon' and he's a 6.8 guy. He used to handload, but uses factory loads now can't recall which. I will tell ya though something to consider if you are going to get into a lot of hog poppin is 7.62x39 at 150-ish. We went to that a couple of years ago for cost containment. Started with 223 not enough stink, 308 more than enough stink just too $$ and x39 perfect blend for our hunting needs. I've taken hogs as far as 191 one shot bang flop feel it could go further just not had the opportunity we stalk in mostly that 191 was a straggler from a sounder we blew up I caught trying to cross the road. If you do ever look at x39 our PWS Mk116's run fantastic with a can I've got almost 5k rounds through mine just a machine.

My buddy swears by his 6.8 he's tried them all. As has been mentioned the first hog you get shot placement choice.....after that you take what your skills can deliver. Having said that we have stacked trailers full of hogs with x39, but we don't have the potential for longer shots like the TX boys on our properties we hunt. Good luck have fun building/buying/shopping not too many things I enjoy more!

 

[fanninland]

On 6.8 hunting ammo We’ve used Hornady 120gr SST, Fed 90gr bonded (gold dots), Sierra 110gr Pro Hunters, Barnes 95gr TTSX and some Nosler 100gr & 110gr Accubonds. There are threads that go on for pages over at 68foruns.com regarding the merits of each of these as well as others, but We’ve had the best overall results with the Hornady 120 SST and now shoot these exclusively as the cost is manageable ($180-$190/case) and its readily available on line and at most local stores should you run out and get in a bind (we buy deer ammo by the box, hog ammo by the case lol).

Lots of reloading options but, due to time constraints associated with running a ranch & real estate brokerage, I figure the time spent reloading can be better used hog hunting.