I’m curious what everyone’s opinion on this is. I’m between doing a form 1 kit from Quiet Bore or somewhere similar, or doing Form 4 for a “budget” suppressor like a Radical RF or a YHM Turbo. Obviously the Form 1 would be slightly cheaper and faster, but what about the quality difference? Are the kits similar in dB reduction etc? Thanks
Suppressors Form 1 vs budget suppressor
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I would say it's very subjective in terms of quality when it comes to a F1 can. My first suppressor was an F1 can and sure I had mine months before anyone else, but it doesn't perform nearly as well as my factory cans. If you have a lathe to bore your holes perfectly concentric and weld the baffle stack together, I would say go for it. But if you just plan on buying parts, drilling some holes with your electric drill, and stuffing the tube...you'd be better off with a factory suppressor.
I've heard the YHM turbo in person, it was impressively quiet when compared to a higher priced can on the same rifle. I wouldn't hesitate buying a YHM turbo. Plus, you'll factory support if something happens to it unlike your F1 can.
My F1 can has been collecting dust since I got my factory ones. It's going to cost me more money in the long run to have a company replace the baffle stack than it would've for me to just buy a factory one to begin with.
Some have had great success with F1 cans, but it really comes down to how much effort you plan on putting into making one. Especially if you want minimal POI shift, no gas leakage, maintains accuracy and keeping weight down.
I've heard the YHM turbo in person, it was impressively quiet when compared to a higher priced can on the same rifle. I wouldn't hesitate buying a YHM turbo. Plus, you'll factory support if something happens to it unlike your F1 can.
My F1 can has been collecting dust since I got my factory ones. It's going to cost me more money in the long run to have a company replace the baffle stack than it would've for me to just buy a factory one to begin with.
Some have had great success with F1 cans, but it really comes down to how much effort you plan on putting into making one. Especially if you want minimal POI shift, no gas leakage, maintains accuracy and keeping weight down.
I'd be curious to know the details of your F1 can that doesn't sound as good as your factory cans.
My advice is always that NFA stuff is not the place to pinch pennies.
Whether you buy the best can ever made or the biggest POS, the wait and the tax is the same.
Additionally, once you buy a can you’re pretty much stuck with it.
Buy once, cry once.
Having said that, of the three options you’ve listed I would go with the YHM can.
I have no experience with the Radical suppressor, but if the “quality” of their rifles is any indication you could probably produce a better can in your basement with a hammer, a pair of vise grips and some soup cans.
Whether you buy the best can ever made or the biggest POS, the wait and the tax is the same.
Additionally, once you buy a can you’re pretty much stuck with it.
Buy once, cry once.
Having said that, of the three options you’ve listed I would go with the YHM can.
I have no experience with the Radical suppressor, but if the “quality” of their rifles is any indication you could probably produce a better can in your basement with a hammer, a pair of vise grips and some soup cans.
I didn’t say anything about sound. I said it doesn’t perform as well. Meaning more POI shift vs unsuppressed, does not hold accuracy out to distance past 500 yards and it’s 2.5” longer than my other 5.56 can that it’s outperformed by.
POI shift has a lot to do with your clipping style. Is your load tuned to work with that form 1 can? How does it sound?
Because I had limited tool resources, I did not clip the baffles. On 223 it actually sounds pretty good, but the larger calibers it had a loud crack more than a wooosh sound compared to my others. I’d say subsonic 300blk and 223 it works pretty good sound wise.
F1 for the win. The way gun lobbyists are going, we cannot guarantee that silencers will be legal in a year from now. I would Form1 some cans while your waiting for the factory built to be approved. People who say the factory built is way better is there own opinion. 135db is 135db, it does not matter that much which company you payed. They are very simple and crude inventions, its a tube with some holes in it, were not building a freaking rocket ship...... I think some of the people saying not to F1 may be ATF/Gun activists trying to slow the surge once everyone realizes you can build your own can over the weekend and its your choice to let the ATF know or not.
The only can's that I have that are Form 1's are for pistol use/pistol caliber. I can't shoot a pistol for shit past 15 yards so it's all for fun, and could care less about grouping. My rifles suppressors are all manufactured.
The tax is the same. The wait, isn’t even close to the same for a form1 and a factory can.
form 1 are being approved in a month vs 1 year on form 4. With quality materials they can easily be made and modified. parts are cheap. buy some extra baffles, try different styles of clipping, hole sizes, order of assembly. You won't be disappointed.
For sure it’s not going to be super cheap, but to save money I’m looking at SS, not Ti. Also looking to form freeze plugs and not purchase pre-made baffles. I feel like $150 is a reasonable estimate. And then the $200 tax stamp applies no matter what. Also please keep in mind that I’m under no impression that this will be the equivalent of a much more expensive factory suppressor
Are you a member of the F1 boards? If not I would recommend joining and getting advice from there as some of the “F1 builds” on there are pretty impressive and remember if your not satisfied how your can turns out you have to get a SOT to rebuild the can.
