Freedom lost

[CSGambill]

We should keep track of all the impositions on our freedom that government has implemented over the last few months. In the long-run, we can't accept the "new normal" as normal.

Please add to the list as you see fit.


1. Forced closure of "non-essential" businesses
2. Chicago - threat of arrest by mayor Lightfoot for using public land.
3. Anne Arundel County, MD - forced wearing of masks while shopping or at work.
4....
5...

 

[diverdon]

Surveillance of population by drones.
No protest allowed.
Media serves the agenda of deep state without question.
So called face checkers in the bag for globalist and used to cover up truth published by individuals at their own effort.
Hi tech working as hard as they can to promote every anti American idea.


Medical professionals publicly stating disease treatment should be denied to "Trump Supporters." I've yet to get a refund from my insurance company because treatment might not be available based on my political beliefs.

Let me Segway from that last too a pet peeve of mine. Every year 400,000 Americans die and countless others suffer needless complications from hospital caused infections. This does not "just happen" it happens because medical professionals are too lazy to do the work necessary to prevent it. Well now that they are frightened that they might be the ones getting infected now all the sudden no precaution is too much. I'll bet that all the gear they suddenly found time to use is saving a lot of patients. I pray that someone (trial attorneys pay attention) is tracking current infection rates so that when these slobs go back to their old ways they can be sued for the pain, suffering and death they cause.

 

[308pirate]

How about instead of making a list just protest, ignore, and defy these abuses?

 

[davsco]

what i really hate are local, state and national parks and the like, that 'we the public' own and pay taxes for and on, that are closed and gated for public use. i can understand bathrooms, visitor centers, public campgrounds and the like, but not the parks and trails etc. they gated off the closest AT access point where folks will literally be miles away from each other, but you can park to your heart's content at walmart, costco and grocery and home improvement stores...

 

[Ken Burton]

You can't forget the filling in of the skateboard areas in Commiefornia and Wussington

 

[MCHOG]

Like rationing in WW2, like the draft, like curfews, the current inconveniences we suffer and the limitation of our liberties are a necessary part of living in a civil society during times of war or emergencies. I consider it patriotic to proudly do what we must for the greater good of this country and our society. And unless there is any rational and reasonable basis to believe that our liberties (and God forbid your creature comforts ) will not be restored in due time, then folks need to sit down, suck it up, and stop bitching like little pussies. That being said, if the time ever came where it was necessary to fight tyranny for our liberties, I will be by your side ruthlessly fighting to the death. But until that time comes, take off the tin foil hat and start acting like a man.

 

[oneshot86]

im pretty much a boring person, sort of, i dont leave the property much, but when i do, nobody is telling me what to do.

 

[The D]

We should keep track of all the impositions on our freedom that government has implemented over the last few months. In the long-run, we can't accept the "new normal" as normal.

Please add to the list as you see fit.


1. Forced closure of "non-essential" businesses
2. Chicago - threat of arrest by mayor Lightfoot for using public land.
3. Anne Arundel County, MD - forced wearing of masks while shopping or at work.
4....
5...

Why stop at the last few months? Let’s go back through the last few hundred years

 

[Alpine 338]

From today's local news paper...

Let's turn everyone into a snitch. Just like the Communists do.

 

[Alpine 338]

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

 

[ditter]

more tin foil hat prose

 

[Nicosdad]

Like rationing in WW2, like the draft, like curfews, the current inconveniences we suffer and the limitation of our liberties are a necessary part of living in a civil society during times of war or emergencies. I consider it patriotic to proudly do what we must for the greater good of this country and our society. And unless there is any rational and reasonable basis to believe that our liberties (and God forbid your creature comforts ) will not be restored in due time, then folks need to sit down, suck it up, and stop bitching like little pussies. That being said, if the time ever came where it was necessary to fight tyranny for our liberties, I will be by your side ruthlessly fighting to the death. But until that time comes, take off the tin foil hat and start acting like a man.

Horseshit !if you give an inch you give a mile. I'm no pussy ,iv paid my due and I owe no one .I ask only for what I have paid for in blood and work.I see your globe n anchor forgot we have been for one year more.

 

[CSGambill]

How about instead of making a list just protest, ignore, and defy these abuses?

I agree wholeheartedly that actions speak louder than words, but it doesn't hurt to note what abuses we are protesting or defying.

 

[GUN NUT in IA]

Like rationing in WW2, like the draft, like curfews, the current inconveniences we suffer and the limitation of our liberties are a necessary part of living in a civil society during times of war or emergencies. I consider it patriotic to proudly do what we must for the greater good of this country and our society. And unless there is any rational and reasonable basis to believe that our liberties (and God forbid your creature comforts ) will not be restored in due time, then folks need to sit down, suck it up, and stop bitching like little pussies. That being said, if the time ever came where it was necessary to fight tyranny for our liberties, I will be by your side ruthlessly fighting to the death. But until that time comes, take off the tin foil hat and start acting like a man.

Can you give any probable time frame for "due time"?

We are still taking off our shoes to get on an airplane, right? (I don't know. I don't fly anymore.)

Did the form 4473 go back to one page (front and back) yet? Will it?

Do I still need a passport to get back into my country from Mexico - even if I have at least three other forms of government issued identification?

 

[MCHOG]

Can you give any probable time frame for "due time"?

We are still taking off our shoes to get on an airplane, right? (I don't know. I don't fly anymore.)

Did the form 4473 go back to one page (front and back) yet? Will it?

Do I still need a passport to get back into my country from Mexico - even if I have at least three other forms of government issued identification?

I think COVID-related restrictions and limitations to some degree are reasonable until a treatment is available. I have no idea how long that will take. But with the entire world focused on that, and with so much at stake, I'm sure it will be as soon as humanly possible. Until then, I expect restrictions to be loosened and tightened depending on the capacity of our medical system to deal with the sick. And during that time, I view those that "ignore and defy" social distancing rules as a direct physical threat to those that are most vulnerable, such as my parents and older family and friends. If, for example, the idiots protesting only got themselves sick, then I would fully support their decision. But they will get themselves infected, spread that shit around the community, infect those that have to interact with those vulnerable people, then go to the hospital and take up resources that will be needed by those that did not chose to "ignore and defy," and many of the innocent people they directly or indirectly infected will die. We are at war. It sucks, and it will continue to suck. Embrace the suck and lets get through this.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

 

[MCHOG]

Surveillance of population by drones.
No protest allowed.
Media serves the agenda of deep state without question.
So called face checkers in the bag for globalist and used to cover up truth published by individuals at their own effort.
Hi tech working as hard as they can to promote every anti American idea.


Medical professionals publicly stating disease treatment should be denied to "Trump Supporters." I've yet to get a refund from my insurance company because treatment might not be available based on my political beliefs.

Let me Segway from that last too a pet peeve of mine. Every year 400,000 Americans die and countless others suffer needless complications from hospital caused infections. This does not "just happen" it happens because medical professionals are too lazy to do the work necessary to prevent it. Well now that they are frightened that they might be the ones getting infected now all the sudden no precaution is too much. I'll bet that all the gear they suddenly found time to use is saving a lot of patients. I pray that someone (trial attorneys pay attention) is tracking current infection rates so that when these slobs go back to their old ways they can be sued for the pain, suffering and death they cause.

Your last point is a good one. I am a trial attorney and will be paying attention to that.

 

[308pirate]

LOL anyone who believes that conversation is what was really said in that video is an idiot.

So many holes.......

 

[308pirate]

I think COVID-related restrictions and limitations to some degree are reasonable until a treatment is available. I have no idea how long that will take. But with the entire world focused on that, and with so much at stake, I'm sure it will be as soon as humanly possible. Until then, I expect restrictions to be loosened and tightened depending on the capacity of our medical system to deal with the sick. And during that time, I view those that "ignore and defy" social distancing rules as a direct physical threat to those that are most vulnerable, such as my parents and older family and friends. If, for example, the idiots protesting only got themselves sick, then I would fully support their decision. But they will get themselves infected, spread that shit around the community, infect those that have to interact with those vulnerable people, then go to the hospital and take up resources that will be needed by those that did not chose to "ignore and defy," and many of the innocent people they directly or indirectly infected will die. We are at war. It sucks, and it will continue to suck. Embrace the suck and lets get through this.

I predict someone is going to get frisky before long. They just don't know which dance partner they're gonna draw.

 

[Jack's Dad]

Surveillance of population by drones.
No protest allowed.
Media serves the agenda of deep state without question.
So called face checkers in the bag for globalist and used to cover up truth published by individuals at their own effort.
Hi tech working as hard as they can to promote every anti American idea.


Medical professionals publicly stating disease treatment should be denied to "Trump Supporters." I've yet to get a refund from my insurance company because treatment might not be available based on my political beliefs.

Let me Segway from that last too a pet peeve of mine. Every year 400,000 Americans die and countless others suffer needless complications from hospital caused infections. This does not "just happen" it happens because medical professionals are too lazy to do the work necessary to prevent it. Well now that they are frightened that they might be the ones getting infected now all the sudden no precaution is too much. I'll bet that all the gear they suddenly found time to use is saving a lot of patients. I pray that someone (trial attorneys pay attention) is tracking current infection rates so that when these slobs go back to their old ways they can be sued for the pain, suffering and death they cause.

I'm sorry that you must have had a bad situation with someone close to you. It sounds like you are still bitter. That's awful. It's also clear you have no clue WTF you are talking about, just talking shit and making elementary accusations.

 

[FS1]

They have stolen

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And some would put on their eye patch, raise their flag and choose certain death over loss of Liberty.

 

[Doc68]

Like rationing in WW2, like the draft, like curfews, the current inconveniences we suffer and the limitation of our liberties are a necessary part of living in a civil society during times of war or emergencies. I consider it patriotic to proudly do what we must for the greater good of this country and our society. And unless there is any rational and reasonable basis to believe that our liberties (and God forbid your creature comforts ) will not be restored in due time, then folks need to sit down, suck it up, and stop bitching like little pussies. That being said, if the time ever came where it was necessary to fight tyranny for our liberties, I will be by your side ruthlessly fighting to the death. But until that time comes, take off the tin foil hat and start acting like a man.

Wrong, plain and simple. You are the fucking cancer helping erode and pervert the Constitution. Now go lick the boots of your superiors.

You cover all the liberal talking points well comrade.....

 

[FS1]

@MCHOG Is that you Gretchen?

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

lawyer. They can rationalize anything. Especially when money is involved.

Wrong, plain and simple. You are the fucking cancer helping erode and pervert the Constitution. Now go lick the boots of your superiors.

You cover all the liberal talking points well comrade.....

 

[scotty2hotty]

Wrong, plain and simple. You are the fucking cancer helping erode and pervert the Constitution. Now go lick the boots of your superiors.

You cover all the liberal talking points well comrade.....

Why are you so mean? Did Mikey not get to eat his Life Cereal with Chocolate milk this morning?

 

[308pirate]

during that time, I view those that "ignore and defy" social distancing rules as a direct physical threat to those that are most vulnerable, such as my parents and older family and friends.

And then what?

Embrace the suck and lets get through this.

Real easy for someone like you, who likely hasn't lost much income, to say. I'll ask my barber or the small ("non-essential") business owners in the towns where I live and where I work, how do they like "embracing the suck". I'll let them know that you said it's no big deal.

You can go eat a bag of dicks......

 

[FS1]

They have stolen reality. It is almost impossible to determine truth from fiction. That is the most dangerous loss of all. Because all of your other rights absolutely depend on that ability.

 

[E. Bryant]

A simple but honest question - what responsibility do I have as a free man to exercise my rights in a manner that does not bring harm to my fellow citizens?

 

[FS1]

A simple but honest question - what responsibility do I have as a free man to exercise my rights in a manner that does not bring harm to my fellow citizens?

Let them exercise their rights and stay the eff home if they are afraid of being around others who don't want to.

 

[Doc68]

Why are you so mean? Did Mikey not get to eat his Life Cereal with Chocolate milk this morning?

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If you think I'm mean get some thicker skin. The things I've lived through and seen would make you shit your pants. I don't have time for people subverting the constitution.

 

[wade2big]

I think COVID-related restrictions and limitations to some degree are reasonable until a treatment is available. I have no idea how long that will take. But with the entire world focused on that, and with so much at stake, I'm sure it will be as soon as humanly possible. Until then, I expect restrictions to be loosened and tightened depending on the capacity of our medical system to deal with the sick. And during that time, I view those that "ignore and defy" social distancing rules as a direct physical threat to those that are most vulnerable, such as my parents and older family and friends. If, for example, the idiots protesting only got themselves sick, then I would fully support their decision. But they will get themselves infected, spread that shit around the community, infect those that have to interact with those vulnerable people, then go to the hospital and take up resources that will be needed by those that did not chose to "ignore and defy," and many of the innocent people they directly or indirectly infected will die. We are at war. It sucks, and it will continue to suck. Embrace the suck and lets get through this.

We would get through it quicker if people like you would look rationally at what is going on. You have been lied to from the start, lied to now, and will be lied to tomorrow. The public needs to understands this is bullshit, and to stop repeating media talking points like you just did. Do you realize that the post you just posted has been written by many here almost word for word. Think for yourself my friend. If the media is telling you how to think, and why to think it, its propaganda.

 

[308pirate]

A simple but honest question - what responsibility do I have as a free man to exercise my rights in a manner that does not bring harm to my fellow citizens?

You have a reasonable responsibility to do so. Staying indoors and not going anywhere when you're healthy is not reasonable.

To those who say "but you don't know if you're a carrier" I tell you this: if you think that gives you or anyone the reason to eliminate our rights until whenever you choose, you thought wrong because we will not comply.

 

[wh20crazy]

Dare County, NC (outer banks): closed to non residents. As much public money as those pricks get to rebuild roads and beaches. Fuck 'em. I say we cut off non resident money.

 

[rlarsen462]

You aren't serving the greater good by being your usual asshole, busybody, nosy, self-serving selves. Many love sitting on their ass collecting our money, and they are among those howling the loudest. Many are addicted to panic and fear, and take comfort from obeying the state.

Those who decide when and why rights are suspended are the same who acquire power and influence from these measures.

The whole point of all of this was to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, which has not happened and is not going to happen in the US. Get back to work, losers, and don't wait for permission from Daddy. If you aren't fat, already dying, or old, the odds of this shit killing you is comparable to lightning.

I still want to see the overall demographics of those howling for everyone to stay home forever. Bet it's mostly high school and college kids. In other words no jobs lost or families to feed.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

Do I still need a passport to get back into my country from Mexico - even if I have at least three other forms of government issued identification?

The real answer is no.

In actuallity, if you are claiming U.S. citizenship, the burden of proof is on the U.S. to prove you are not a U.S. citizen.

Will you be hassled...definitely. But if someone is a US citizen and has resided here for any substantial length of time, all it takes is a very short question and answer session to determine citizenship.

Will you be sleeping in your bed that night? That depends entirely on how far you take being a dick about it. Remember, there is no 4th amendment protection at the border.