Front grip on rifle. Accuracy question.

[SeekingNorth]

When placing a front grip on your rifle, where do you find you place it, for most accurate shooting standing?

Any difference between freehand and supported against barricades?

 

[Cacciatore]

I usually place the grip/hand stop for a slight bend in the support arm elbow. This is when using the grip as a hand (pinky) stop for the c clamp method. This allows good muzzle control when pulling the rifle straight back and good support for the push/pull method that locks your shoulders.

There isn't going to be a genric answer like X inches in front of the upper since you have factors like arm length, stock position, access to pressure switches, rail length etc.

 

[SeekingNorth]

I know I know

I am still experimenting.. just seeing what others have found to work.

 

[PBWalsh]

As with everything, “it depends”. Body leverages will be different for everyone. Mechanically similar, but different. Accuracy has nothing to do with it. Just makes sure you are square to the rifle and go from there.

Sooooo... not to far and not to close.

 

[S197]

Have you ever shot with a vertical grip? I do not shoot well with a vertical grip, my shots open up. If I use a barricade stop with only my palm applying pressure I can shoot ok.

 

[B4forever]

Do you plan to run a light or laser?

 

[TonyTheTiger]

I am still experimenting.. just seeing what others have found to work.

I've found they don't work. Or more specifically, they only work when you're shooting on your terms.
Every time I thought I found the sweet spot in practice, I'd go to a match and end up in an awkward position or a hard lean or on a weird shaped barricade at an uncomfortable height or a roof top prop and every time the handstop was in the worst possible spot.

 

[eman2016]

I have a hand stop on one rifle and a vfg on the other and go with the ‘slight elbow bend’ rule. Both guns are 16”, this puts the front grip device a little less than a palm’s width back from the front of the hand guard. Also leaves space to occasionally mount my bipod for sighting in without having to move the grip device.

I think for the accuracy of each shot exactly where it is won’t make a difference as long as it’s being used to pull the thing in tight. For follow up shots and transitions placement starts to make a difference as further out keeps the barrel more stable for consistent shot placement and groups. Too far, hyper extending the arm makes arm fatigue a factor. On a shorter pistol build a lot of people put a handstop all the way at the front of the hand guard since options are limited. Sometimes they install it backwards with the bigger part towards the muzzle. Then they’ll do a push/pull grip where they pull the brace in with the strong hand and actually push out on the hand stop with support hand.

 

[Strykervet]

Old SDM trick: fold down one bipod leg and use that. I still like a gangster grip, where I put it depends and would violate OPSEC anyway so can't really say...