GAP M40A3

[M24_SWS]

Well i am very happy to report that i placed a order for a GAP M40A3 rifle. I will be getting a scope for it down the road. If any GAP M40A3 owners could chime in as to their GAP M40A3 expiriences.

Thank you

Heath

 

[crawdad1]

Re: GAP M40A3

I have the nightforce on mine and have been thinking about getting the correct scope for the m40a3. I just like the nightforce and I am having a hard time taking it off. You wont be let down by this rifle, mine is super accurate and easy to shoot well.

 

[M24_SWS]

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The optics is something im looking for as well and once the rifle is done hopefully i will be able to get a good deal on the scope.

 

[crawdad1]

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I really wanted the 10x unertl or us optics for mine. They are far and few between any more.

 

[M24_SWS]

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Yeah the MST 100 scope is a killer. But i hear the US optics stopped making them. Im not sure why they stopped but thats up to them.

 

[Pat M]

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You better jump on any MST 100 you find - they are going up in price and are harder to find.

 

[Sniper52]

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Go with the S&B 3-12 x50 MTC, much more user friendly scope. MST-100 is great if you want a vintage look and want a pre 2006 M40A3 but for the difference in cost you might as well get the more advanced optics. Just my .02 cents. JAA

 

[M24_SWS]

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Thats true. You know, ive never seen a S&B scope in person although i hear nothing but excellent things about them although lower cost is something to be desired.

 

[BasraBoy]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thats true. You know, ive never seen a S&B scope in person although i hear nothing but excellent things about them although lower cost is something to be desired. </div></div>

I hear what you are saying....but normally when you start to talk about reducing the cost you're going to have to sacrifice something in return - maybe something that is fundamental to why the product was so good in the first place.

I have an S&B and also I'm lucky to have an MST100 - both are great scopes with features that work well.

On the MST 100, zeroing can be a real PITA (see the various threads here on this)...and also parallax adjustment (just DON'T DO IT! EVER!!

) But the BDC is great! With FGMM 175SMK's (and UK manufacture HPS 175SMK) the +/- 3 MOA elevation adjustment has always been more than enough at all ranges

You wouldn't be unhappy with either (once the MST is properly zeroed!).

 

[One-Eyed Jack]

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I've had two GAP M40A3s (Gen I and Gen II) and an M40A5. They all shoot/shot like lasers, you won't be unhappy with the rifle. (My M40A5 is chambered in 260Rem.) The M40A3 Gen I (no detachable magazine) uses either the MST-100 or the S&B/Premier M8541 with a double-turn elevation turret. The Gen 2 (with detachable magazine) uses the S&B/Premier M8541 with MTC turrets. If you can't find any of these scopes or clones easily, then go for the Premier 3-15x Heritage.

I don't find zeroing the MST-100 all that hard, the USO recommendation is to set it up at 300 yards. It's a BDC system for the M118LR round and often people shoot faster 175SMKs. "Zeroing" at 300 yards makes the BDC work better for most handloads.

If you have the USO tool, resetting the "parallax-free" distance isn't impossible IF you make SMALL (~1/32 turn) adjustments and check for parallax shifting at the new parallax-free distance you want to achieve, after making each small change. When there is no parallax shifting at that distance, you are done and can lock the objective outer ring. If the parallax shifting gets worse as you adjust the objective, you're turning the adjustment ring the wrong way!

 

[M24_SWS]

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Im having GAP do the GEN 1 with the DD ROSS steel floorplate. Once i get the gun im gonna shoot the living daylights out of it.

 

[M24_SWS]

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I was just wondering NOT counting scope or bipod...how much does the M40A3 weigh?

 

[YN*Dotte]

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I was just wondering NOT counting scope or bipod...how much does the M40A3 weigh?

About 12.5-13 lbs. without optics and bipod and about 16.5-17 with

 

[SuckitTrebek]

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Had a GAP M40A3. First version I'm sure. The lightweight version george had a write up on here a while back.

Didn't like it at all and didn't much appreciate being charged too much when everything from the scope to the sling and all in between came from his shop.

Next question is what is charged too much? Well just think of what you'd pay top dollar for everything including the USO SSDS scope. And that's what I paid.

In any case I sold it.

 

[Tactical]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Had a GAP M40A3. First version I'm sure. The lightweight version george had a write up on here a while back.

Didn't like it at all and didn't much appreciate being charged too much when everything from the scope to the sling and all in between came from his shop.

Next question is what is charged too much? Well just think of what you'd pay top dollar for everything including the USO SSDS scope. And that's what I paid.

In any case I sold it. </div></div>

Dammm man thats more than a bit rough..

Lets consider for a bit the factors of getting a Spec M40A3
I believe onl;y one or two places in nation actually build spec M40A3s.
Thats GA Precision and DD Ross. Most everyone else throws similar parts together and calls it a M40A3

Real parts made the real way costs more money.

Not sure what George charged for M40A3 sling but retails with Flush Cups is 85.00

George built me a M40A3 that I used in 2006 F Class Nationals. I used box stock 175 grain Black Hills ammo and took second palce in 1000 yard match. Not bad for a sniper rifle that shot factory ammo on .50 moa target. That rifloe shoots better than I do. Price seemed good for REAL M40A3 to me.

 

[Mike]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Didn't like it at all and didn't much appreciate being charged too much when everything from the scope to the sling and all in between came from his shop.

Next question is what is charged too much? Well just think of what you'd pay top dollar for everything including the USO SSDS scope. And that's what I paid.
</div></div>

Did someone hold a gun to your head and make you buy it? Did you not know what the price of the rifle going into it was going to be?

I don't understand what your complaint is/was.

 

[SuckitTrebek]

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It was a TIS sling actually. And to further clarify then remove myself from this conversation it's like I said.

Nice gear, great parts, reasonable service. Like I said was just charged top dollar on every component when I thought the overall price could have been slightly more reasonable. Especially being that all was bought at the same shop.

Oh and I sold it here on the hide afterwards.

So my advice to the OP, you want to buy a rifle there that's cool. But get everything else possible somewhere else.

If my posts are too rough for some grow thicker skin. I just tell it like it is.

 

[BlackWhiskey]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah the MST 100 scope is a killer. But i hear the US optics stopped making them. Im not sure why they stopped but thats up to them. </div></div>

USO is still making them. I was at the factory on Wed. and they had several ready to ship out.

 

[OFIS]

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I was to assume they are a PITA to make since they are steel, not aluminum.

And only make sense on M40A1 replica builds.

Its a niche of a niche market...

 

[chad3]

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They have sold the last of the ones that they will build. They might still be making the last however you can't order anymore.

 

[Tactical]

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My skin is plenty thick. I just find you over the top on this issue. You certainly have the Christmas Spirit

 

[M24_SWS]

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Thank you everyone for the updates. As for the M40A3, one the things i want to take away is that ive always wanted something Authentic (Mil-Spec) and this is my chance.

 

[Tflhnd1]

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I was one of the lucky ones to acquire an A-4 return stock from George/USMC for my M40-A3. I had GAP upgrade her to an -A5 config. She has Premiere glass on her, and is EASILY a sub 1/2 minute rifle. Thank you again George and crew. Anyone, (Except Trebek apparently), would be happy with the performance. Jeff

 

[One-Eyed Jack]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you everyone for the updates. As for the M40A3, one the things i want to take away is that ive always wanted something Authentic (Mil-Spec) and this is my chance. </div></div>

Not only that, but GAP will build a great shooting rifle, just great!! Schneider barrels have become my favorites for that reason, every one I've had has been an excellent shooter.

 

[M24_SWS]

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Got another question.

On the TV Show MODERN SNIPERS: MARINES where can i get i guess its called smear pattern camo? I really like the looks of that camo.

 

[crawdad1]

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I believe it was a molded in pattern that mcmillan offered, I am sure someone out there could do a paint job just like it.

 

[psinclair]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: One-Eyed Jack</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you everyone for the updates. As for the M40A3, one the things i want to take away is that ive always wanted something Authentic (Mil-Spec) and this is my chance. </div></div>

Not only that, but GAP will build a great shooting rifle, just great!! Schneider barrels have become my favorites for that reason, every one I've had has been an excellent shooter. </div></div>

+1 on that...Schneider barrels are excellent!!

 

[Mike]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was a TIS sling actually. And to further clarify then remove myself from this conversation it's like I said.

Nice gear, great parts, reasonable service. Like I said was just charged top dollar on every component when I thought the overall price could have been slightly more reasonable. Especially being that all was bought at the same shop.

Oh and I sold it here on the hide afterwards.

So my advice to the OP, you want to buy a rifle there that's cool. But get everything else possible somewhere else.

If my posts are too rough for some grow thicker skin. I just tell it like it is.</div></div>

I like this. He tells others to grow thicker skin yet he's whining like a baby that he had to pay for a rifle that no one forced him to order, irrelevant if all the parts were from the same shop.

Seriously? Get a grip and make sure you "stay removed".

 

[SuckitTrebek]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was a TIS sling actually. And to further clarify then remove myself from this conversation it's like I said.

Nice gear, great parts, reasonable service. Like I said was just charged top dollar on every component when I thought the overall price could have been slightly more reasonable. Especially being that all was bought at the same shop.

Oh and I sold it here on the hide afterwards.

So my advice to the OP, you want to buy a rifle there that's cool. But get everything else possible somewhere else.

If my posts are too rough for some grow thicker skin. I just tell it like it is.</div></div>

I like this. He tells others to grow thicker skin yet he's whining like a baby that he had to pay for a rifle that no one forced him to order, irrelevant if all the parts were from the same shop.

Seriously? Get a grip and make sure you "stay removed". </div></div>

Oh no whining here. I sold it for more than I paid. so all smiles here tough guy.

 

[psinclair]

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I see how it works....it's OK for you to make a few bucks but not GA Precision?

 

[Mike]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PGS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see how it works....it's OK for you to make a few bucks but not GA Precision?</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do as I say, not as I do</div></div>

 

[long range dogr]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was a TIS sling actually. And to further clarify </div></div>

Just a little info, the member you're arguing this with,Tactical. Is T.I.S slings......

 

[M24_SWS]

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I will give GAP a call as to the SMEAR pattern ive seen on TV. Also although this rifle is a little on the costly side...from everything ive heard and so forth leads me to believe that i will in no way, shape or form be dissapointed in the build. So with that being said im more than happy to pay the cost becuase i know the outcome will be well worth it.

 

[neeley205]

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Yeah, the "smear" is just molded camo. Not hard to get. GAP probably hasthem there or they can get one easily. The molded is very durable but its not as pretty. Just don't get bent out of shape if you see little bits of mesh and the colors are mixed in places. Some people order molded camo and expect it to look like a really clean cerakote job and that's just completely unrealistic. If you want your camo to be a work of art and be pretty durable pay to have it cerakoted, if you don't mind the details and want it to last basically forever, get it molded.

 

[M24_SWS]

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See i thought the SMEAR camo pattern from what i saw on TV was the USMC painting the rifle at their paint shop....but not necessarily from GAP or anything like that.

 

[neeley205]

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Nope, even the old "return" stocks are molded. Its just where the colors flow in the mold. Nothing Marine specific. Its still incredibly functional and durable (EXACTLY why they use it) just not as pretty to some. I have two molded stocks inbound from manners right now. Its just easy and premanent.

The ones they have are done by McMillan.

 

[Rob01]

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I think you guys are confusing the original M40A1 smear pattern and the new patterns as McMillan doesn't do the old smear anymore. The newer patterns are crisp and clean lines as mentioned but they aren't the smear. Here's an original smear M40A1 stock

And one of the newer forest camo HTGs

I believe the M40A3 is spec'd with a OD green molded in color and painted to what's needed.

And Heath don't worry about the BS some are spouting here. You are getting an excellent rifle at a good price. Yes they aren't cheap but the price is fair. If it wasn't why would someone pay more than what someone paid for it originally? Enjoy the rifle when it comes.

 

[M24_SWS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think you guys are confusing the original M40A1 smear pattern and the new patterns as McMillan doesn't do the old smear anymore. The newer patterns are crisp and clean lines as mentioned but they aren't the smear. Here's an original smear M40A1 stock

And one of the newer forest camo HTGs

I believe the M40A3 is spec'd with a OD green molded in color and painted to what's needed.

And Heath don't worry about the BS some are spouting here. You are getting an excellent rifle at a good price. Yes they aren't cheap but the price is fair. If it wasn't why would someone pay more than what someone paid for it originally? Enjoy the rifle when it comes. </div></div>


Yeah rob what you mentioned about the camo is what i meant. Meaning when i saw the TV modern sniper marines show the paint the marines used looked like a dark earth dusty color that i thought was the smear pattern becuase it had no distinct pattern that i recognized before. But Either way like you mentioned im looking forward to getting the rifle and having a LOT of range time to it.

 

[M24_SWS]

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Ive edited this comment because the links were making the thread really wierd looking but ill keep people up to date with camo for the gun.

 

[Katahdin]

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Sounds like krylon that has worn off over time, the m40a3 & m40a5's come with an olive drab stock.

 

[JelloStorm]

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Yeah that's just Krylon over top an olive MCM A4 dude.

$3000 gun, $15 in Krylon! WIN!

 

[M24_SWS]

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Well i guess once i get the rifle ill clean it up really good..pickup some krylon and camo it up.

 

[Rhongman]

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Congrats on the rifle. I just ordered an M40A5 from GAP this week. I don't know how I'll be able to wait that long.

It also looks like I'm following in your footsteps. I also own an M24 and I'm currently selling off a couple other M700s to fund this new rifle. So by the end of this year I will only own two bolt guns: M24 and M40. As long as something else doesn't catch my eye. lol This gets expensive.

 

[Peepaw]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Oh and I sold it here on the hide afterwards.


Oh no whining here. I sold it for more than I paid. so all smiles here tough guy. </div></div>


Im not following this at ALL.
He orders a gun, finds out how much, then pays for it. Then thinks the BUSINESS (you know, a company that is working to MAKE A LIVING AND NOT DO THINGS FOR FREE) should cut him some deal, because he is???? Just like everyone else, a paying customer, but you deserve a better deal, why exactly??? Then, he thinks it's ok to sell a rifle that he thinks he PAID TOO MUCH FOR TO BEGIN WITH to a member for MORE THEN WHAT HE PAID FOR IT!?!?!?!

WTF is this all about, holy shit.
Oh, I get it, he wanted a lower price on teh rifle, so he could make more $$$ here on the Hide by doing nothing. Instead of teh BUSINESS that MADE the rifle making the money, HE needs the savings so HE can make more. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow...guy needs to get a clue.

 

[M24_SWS]

Re: GAP M40A3

Well good news.....My GAP M40A3 is done..woohoo. Unfortunatly until i get home in novemeber time frame i wont get to use the rifle but just knowing its done is really good to hear.

 

[JSTARSZ]

Re: GAP M40A3

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well good news.....My GAP M40A3 is done..woohoo. Unfortunatly until i get home in novemeber time frame i wont get to use the rifle but just knowing its done is really good to hear.</div></div> Does that mean you are going to have to change your name? Stay safe on the deployment!

 

[M24_SWS]

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Well i'm back in the USA and just got off the phone with GAP and the M40A3 is getting shipped to me. WOOHOO. So approx 3 to 4 days i will have it.

 

[M24_SWS]

Re: GAP M40A3

I got my M40A3 in the mail today. GAP did a kickass job in every way. The attention to detail is outstanding. Will get pictures of the gun and so forth ASAP.

 

[nic_bravo_whiskey]

Re: GAP M40A3

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M40A3 Fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got my M40A3 in the mail today. GAP did a kickass job in every way. The attention to detail is outstanding. Will get pictures of the gun and so forth ASAP. </div></div>

Awesome. Pics or it didn't happen.

 

[Whit]

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Congrats, and Congrats on your safe trip home. Cant wait to see pics, and hear your comments about your build. I love the M40A3's. I am thinking about getting one myself (built by GAP).