Hello Hide. Well I recently purchased a GAP10 G2 chambered in 6.5 Creedmore. The post said it had an 18" barrel. Well rifle showed up and barrel is chambered in 6.5 Creedmore but the barrel is 16.5" long not 18". The Gentleman I purchased it from is willing to give me my money back when I ship the rifle back to him. Was a good deal and would like to keep it. Does anyone have experience with a short (16.5") Creedmore barrel? Need advice . Keep it and shoot it or send it back. Don't want to shoot rifle or experiment with it if I don't intend on keeping it. Thanks for your time in advance.
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GAP10 G2 16.5" 6.5 Creedmore barrel , Need advice
- Thread starter roncar2008
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I would shoot it. 18” is already on the short side for a Creedmoor, another inch and a half is not going to affect performance much I wouldn’t think. I guess it depends on your intended applications and expectations. Would be awesome as a mid range hunting rifle.
I zeroed a 14.5” 6.8 upper a couple of days ago, then proceeded to make 1st round hits at 210, 335, and 420 yards on 6-10 inch steel plates. I was happy with it, but even a short Creedmoor will blow that out of the water.
I zeroed a 14.5” 6.8 upper a couple of days ago, then proceeded to make 1st round hits at 210, 335, and 420 yards on 6-10 inch steel plates. I was happy with it, but even a short Creedmoor will blow that out of the water.
What did you buy it for-hunting, precision, plinking? I'm a big fan of getting exactly what you wanted despite the PITA factor at the moment. A year from now you will forget the PITA while you're relentlessly plinking 1000 yd steel! I have no data to add to the 6.5cm and 16" barrel.
I have a 16.5” barreled 65Creed on a bolt action, with a suppressor (+30fps.) I shoot 140 ELD-M factory ammo at 2534 fps, and don’t have a single problem laying the smack down on an animal for an ethical kill shot with with plenty of energy and expansion velocity out to 600 yards or so. When I shout steel targets out at 800 yards, it’s usually me that misses, not the rifle or the ammo.
There’s not a thing wrong with a 16.5” barreled Creedmoor. It’s all about taking the time to understand what it’s capable of, and being realistic about what YOU’RE capable of. I am not trying to be a dick here (serious)..... but if you have to ask a question like this I’d be willing to bet you’re own skill set is going to be more of a limiting factor than a short barrel. So buy a case of shells, some good solid repeatable optics, and go hit the range!
My current dope at DA of 3,500:
There’s not a thing wrong with a 16.5” barreled Creedmoor. It’s all about taking the time to understand what it’s capable of, and being realistic about what YOU’RE capable of. I am not trying to be a dick here (serious)..... but if you have to ask a question like this I’d be willing to bet you’re own skill set is going to be more of a limiting factor than a short barrel. So buy a case of shells, some good solid repeatable optics, and go hit the range!
My current dope at DA of 3,500:
Short 6.5 is awesome. If you’re okay with 18, then I don’t see why 16.5 would be much of an issue. There is a little bit of loss but it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Are you trying to get the shortest possible (still usable) package? Are you trying to shoot the longest distance possible? The probably 30-50fps lost won’t mean much to you. And are you sure you’re measuring it correctly?
A good tool about barrel length with 6.5
https://rifleshooter.com/2016/02/6-...el-length-on-velocity-cutting-up-a-creedmoor/
https://rifleshooter.com/2016/02/6-...el-length-on-velocity-cutting-up-a-creedmoor/
You really start loosing it quick below 22” length, typically go from losing 5-10 ft/s 22” & longer to about 30 at below 22” inches.
This is one of the reasons Glen Seekins chose a 22” for the SP10.
If you got a deal keep it and just get a new barrel after 2500 rounds or so.
This is one of the reasons Glen Seekins chose a 22” for the SP10.
If you got a deal keep it and just get a new barrel after 2500 rounds or so.
A couple months ago, I bought a Lanxang VL-34 with a 20” barrel. I wasn’t looking for the extra barrel length or weight, but the price for the rifle was worth it. I figured I would buy that one and shoot it, and if I really didn’t like the 20” barrel, I could have a different one put on and still be out the door for less than the cost of a new rifle. If you got this GAP-10 for the right price (meaning low enough to afford a new barrel) my recommendation would be to keep it, shoot it, and see how you like it.
If you don’t like it, @flyfisherman246 has said good stuff about an LMT of his that was rebarreled by Jeff Hayes at River’s Bend Gun Company. If I remember correctly, Mr. Hayes used to work at GA Precision, so you can probably trust his work.
One detail to consider would be increased concussion with a shorter barrel. I don’t know the powder burn rate for 6.5 CM, and there’s only a 1.5”-2” difference between this barrel and the barrel you want, but you might ask some of the guys with multiple 6.5’s if the difference is noticeable. Recently I was at the range, and the guy a lane or two over had a .308 with a 16” barrel and a muzzle brake. Sitting next to him wasn’t unmanageable, but it got old pretty quickly. It made me wish I had brought my .375 H&H with me that day so that I could return the favor, concussion-wise.
If you don’t like it, @flyfisherman246 has said good stuff about an LMT of his that was rebarreled by Jeff Hayes at River’s Bend Gun Company. If I remember correctly, Mr. Hayes used to work at GA Precision, so you can probably trust his work.
One detail to consider would be increased concussion with a shorter barrel. I don’t know the powder burn rate for 6.5 CM, and there’s only a 1.5”-2” difference between this barrel and the barrel you want, but you might ask some of the guys with multiple 6.5’s if the difference is noticeable. Recently I was at the range, and the guy a lane or two over had a .308 with a 16” barrel and a muzzle brake. Sitting next to him wasn’t unmanageable, but it got old pretty quickly. It made me wish I had brought my .375 H&H with me that day so that I could return the favor, concussion-wise.
