Geissele hi speed national match trigger ???

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So before I pull the trigger on a trigger so to speak, I am looking at a geissele hispeed national match. I want it for really precise target shooting in my match grade gun. I don’t want the ssae or the sd-e. I want something really light and adjustable. The one I’m looking at is the best one they make for that. So, Is there any other company’s out there just as good that make a similar trigger?

I have a elf match trigger and I do like it, But it’s still about 1.5lbs and want something lighter

Thanks
 
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Ive had a few Jards and just wasn't happy. I now have a few hispeed national match triggers which are phenomenal. I too was looking for a light trigger for target shooting and settled on this one. Best money I've ever spent on an AR trigger.
 
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I said I didn’t, But I would take opinions on the geissele sd-e as well. But I don’t think it will be light enough for me
 
I ran a Geissele National Match in a DMR-variant AR I have since sold. It's an amazing trigger - adjustable for pretty much whatever you like for first and second stage pull.

I haven't tried to sell the trigger in case I put together another AR of some sort, but, @Dog , send me a PM if you're interested in a VERY lightly used Geissele NM in the original box with all the springs and instructions. I think I can make it worth your while wrt pricing.
 
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I have been using the high speed national match trigger now for a couple years and it is in my opinion the best precision trigger for an AR... super adjustable and very consistent.
 
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I just put a Timney CE in my large frame AR. Very impressed with it so far. 1.5 lb pull. Pretty crisp for an AR trigger. The trigger rod itself is a vertical round rod, that you can adjust forwards or back to fine tune to your hands lop. Comes with a three different trigger bows, which are adjustable up and down the rod. I have found my new go to trigger for Precision AR’s.
 
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I got to try pretty much every trigger on the market at Rainier a couple weeks ago.

I was actually disappointed in Timney, I expected more. They were just okay, I wouldn't pay the price for one. There are a lot of good and okay triggers, but the Geissele still stands out. The number of completely different triggers based on one design with very subtle changes is just astonishing. They make something for everyone and they make no junk.

The best non-Geissele trigger I tried was the Hyperfire or whatever it's called. Has the dual springs, I don't think it's adj. but you could check. For some reason, I felt the lock time was a bit long but don't quote me on that, it may be fast. I thought it looked gimmicky but it worked very well and I was surprised. Wilson still makes a nice single stage trigger but not a fan of their 2 stage. KAC actually makes a trigger on par with Geissele and it's very well made, heavy duty, so if you ever get a complete KAC lower, you won't have to change anything.

I use mostly Geissele, in fact I do use all Geissele except the 2 stage Jard in an FAL (it's nice, especially for an FAL but I wouldn't use a Jard in an AR, however, they have come a long way in the last decade and some on here swear by 'em now). I have pretty much one of each of the Geissele triggers, more than one I most cases. For non-adj., for reliability and best trigger pull the SSA/E can't be beat. You can get 'em with different spring weights and tune it to the weight you want.

I only use the NM trigger in one rifle, a Satern bbl.'d 6.5G capable of .33MOA. I figured it earned.

The NM adj. Geissele trigger is basically peerless IMO. Skeletonized hammer reduces lock time and the set screws in it, once loctited, do well to stay put. I haven't had to touch mine since I did that ten years ago. It still has that perfect 2 stage pull with no pre or over travel of any kind. What more could you ask for? And mine came with 3 springs from fairly light to scary light. Set it up how you want it in that lower, Loctite the set screws, and you've got a solid 2 stage that doesn't need to be adjusted but once. Still, I wouldn't use 'em in "fighting rifles" or SBR's or such.

If you ever do need to change it, I believe you can soak the trigger unit in acetone(?) to dissolve the Loctite. Or maybe it was chlorinated brake cleaner. Probably easy enough to find. That way you won't damage the threads or have to heat it up in order to remove 'em and clean 'em.
 
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I don't think it's what you want if you want a sub two pound pull. It tends to be a super light first stage that's easy to pull through.

If you want sub two pounds I'd suggest a single stage. Just my opinion.
 
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I don't think it's what you want if you want a sub two pound pull. It tends to be a super light first stage that's easy to pull through.

If you want sub two pounds I'd suggest a single stage. Just my opinion.
I found it simple enough to adjust the first stage pull weight. You are correct, though, that "out of the box" it's easy to pull through the first stage.
 
Does anybody know how the sd-e compare to the national match trigger? I am very comfortable with straight triggers, I wish the national match had a straight version. Anyway, I know the sd-e second stage is 1.2 lbs. I never felt it, Is it light enough for precision shooting?
 
I got to try pretty much every trigger on the market at Rainier a couple weeks ago.

I was actually disappointed in Timney, I expected more. They were just okay, I wouldn't pay the price for one. [stuff deleted]

Which Timney trigger did you try? They make a full range of triggers from merely competent to sublime.
 
Does anybody know how the sd-e compare to the national match trigger? I am very comfortable with straight triggers, I wish the national match had a straight version. Anyway, I know the sd-e second stage is 1.2 lbs. I never felt it, Is it light enough for precision shooting?

I haven't tried the National match, but I do own the SD-E as well as the G2S and several other really nice triggers. The SD-E is certainly a nice trigger and it breaks extremely clean, but it is a touch heavier in feel than I'd prefer.

My precision bolt guns are set at 2lbs and the SD-E I believe is just over 3lbs. You can certainly do precision shooting with it however like I said, it's a touch heavier than I would prefer compared to my PRS bolt gun or a NM
 
national match comes with 3 springs so you can adjust take up and let off - very nice indeed. honestly thought the SSA-E is pretty damn nice. I dont like straight triggers :)